Flybe - 3 (Including the FlyBe/BACon merger)
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The information came from the horses mouth, meaning the people that fly the aircraft, so make of it what you may.
Is the company not telling the full story to keep calm with in the company during the take over of Connect which is only nine weeks away.
Well we will have to wait and see.
Is the company not telling the full story to keep calm with in the company during the take over of Connect which is only nine weeks away.
Well we will have to wait and see.
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From what I can see the two issues are unrelated. The BACon deal has no influence over Embraer deliveries which will come to Flybe irrespective of whether the deal goes through or not, or vice versa.
It's a wind up from whoever told you
It's a wind up from whoever told you
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BA management have said it is "extremely unlikely that the sale of BA Connect will be concluded before the end of January 2007". Looks like its going to be a dragger boys and girls.
BA management have said it is "extremely unlikely that the sale of BA Connect will be concluded before the end of January 2007". Looks like its going to be a dragger boys and girls.
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Yet another delay.
According to Jim French, in his latest statement the deal has hurdles to overcome and depending on the outcome depends whether the deal will go ahead.
The tone of this latest announcement says something is wrong. I would of expected a more upbeat statement than this.
Why is it bmi can go and buy Bmed inside a week yet it takes flybe up to a year? Any clever business heads out there?
According to Jim French, in his latest statement the deal has hurdles to overcome and depending on the outcome depends whether the deal will go ahead.
The tone of this latest announcement says something is wrong. I would of expected a more upbeat statement than this.
Why is it bmi can go and buy Bmed inside a week yet it takes flybe up to a year? Any clever business heads out there?
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The way things are going are not looking good at all, with what was ment to be the full take over by the end of March things look doomed.
Some of the summer programmes start in less than eight weeks and if some of the schedules are not out these punters that would have travelled on some of these sectors that are not on sail will now go else where.
As BA rep on the news today said when you lose a punter they might never return.
Take heed J.F you and your task force need to pull you fingers out before they get badly burnt.
Some of the summer programmes start in less than eight weeks and if some of the schedules are not out these punters that would have travelled on some of these sectors that are not on sail will now go else where.
As BA rep on the news today said when you lose a punter they might never return.
Take heed J.F you and your task force need to pull you fingers out before they get badly burnt.
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It just keeps getting delayed, now it is mid- Febuary, probally be March by the time this deal is done, they must need to get out the rest of the summer schedules very soon.
come on guys
come on guys
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Might have something to do with that fact that BA Connects accounts have now been audited by one of the citys major financial institues and they have found to be losing a lot more money than the £6 million declared by WW and the actual figure is closer to £30 Million Mark .
So you can understand why J.F is beeing very cautious about the deal, and not just rushing into it.
So you can understand why J.F is beeing very cautious about the deal, and not just rushing into it.
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Whatever the reason for the further delay, it's about time someone let the damn staff know where they stand!!
My house goes on the market today and I am waiting for confirmation of a new job off-island. If they don't do something soon they won't have any staff to transfer to Flybe let alone to anyone taking over the hangar (another Manx Government pipedream!)
WW and JF want to stop playing with folks liveliehoods and get on with doing whatever they do for large sums of money!
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My house goes on the market today and I am waiting for confirmation of a new job off-island. If they don't do something soon they won't have any staff to transfer to Flybe let alone to anyone taking over the hangar (another Manx Government pipedream!)
WW and JF want to stop playing with folks liveliehoods and get on with doing whatever they do for large sums of money!
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In fairness skiddy, there is nothing worse than mis-information.
I'm sure that Flybe want to let you know what's happening, but as you said, when it involves peoples lives, they'll want to be sure that they are giving you some concrete info with which to make an informed decision. Until the OFT and various unions have cleared the deal to proceed then nothing can be resolved. It looks like this confirmation will come in mid February, hopefully giving you the info you need.
I'm sure that Flybe want to let you know what's happening, but as you said, when it involves peoples lives, they'll want to be sure that they are giving you some concrete info with which to make an informed decision. Until the OFT and various unions have cleared the deal to proceed then nothing can be resolved. It looks like this confirmation will come in mid February, hopefully giving you the info you need.
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How much longer can this go on?
The travelling public are going else where and the company is loseing out.
The full summer schedules programme must still be on hold or are they in the wings waiting to land but the date of landing all depends on the fuel in them.
The BAcon staff who are still there and the crews are reall getting close to boiling point shall I stay or shall I go.
At the end of the day if Jim and his hench men down west country way don,t get a result soon the discontent will bet a lot worse.
So JIM pull you finger out and sort it out.
The travelling public are going else where and the company is loseing out.
The full summer schedules programme must still be on hold or are they in the wings waiting to land but the date of landing all depends on the fuel in them.
The BAcon staff who are still there and the crews are reall getting close to boiling point shall I stay or shall I go.
At the end of the day if Jim and his hench men down west country way don,t get a result soon the discontent will bet a lot worse.
So JIM pull you finger out and sort it out.
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Interesting that BMI, full service airline (well mostly) can buy BMED, also full service, for a chunky sum in cash in what seems to have been about 2 weeks whereas FlyBe (loco) have been trying to do the deal on buying BACon (trying to turn loco but still having a higher cost base than FlyBe) for no cash for over two months now with still no end in sight. This is presumably what happens when you try to do a deal for "free". You simply don't have the war chest to cover those nasty niggles you hadn't thought of but will always keep coming out of the woodwork.
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Not sure you're right there 'haven't a clue'
To my knowledge BMI intend to run BMed as a separate and independant carrier for the time being. With no changes to anyone's terms and conditions a sale like this can be completed with little or no delay, in essence nothing has changed.
BAConnect's business model is wrong. Period. Flybe clearly do not want to absorb and airline with the losses that BACon is racking up and so changes to employee terms and conditions are required in order to make the combined airline a goer. Understandably, Flybe do not wish to harm their own business in the long term.
To my knowledge BMI intend to run BMed as a separate and independant carrier for the time being. With no changes to anyone's terms and conditions a sale like this can be completed with little or no delay, in essence nothing has changed.
BAConnect's business model is wrong. Period. Flybe clearly do not want to absorb and airline with the losses that BACon is racking up and so changes to employee terms and conditions are required in order to make the combined airline a goer. Understandably, Flybe do not wish to harm their own business in the long term.
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Good or Bad
Well as Noel Edmonds would say to this one GOOD DEAL or BAD DEAL?
So it must be down hill now to sort all the lose ends and get there full summer programme worked out and on the web and selling.
The big question is will they be able to cope with the big change.
So it must be down hill now to sort all the lose ends and get there full summer programme worked out and on the web and selling.
The big question is will they be able to cope with the big change.