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Old 16th Feb 2007, 09:28
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Much ado about little?...

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Old 16th Feb 2007, 19:34
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Latest update on the "next generation" website says that Flybe/BACon are committed to conclude the sale by 28th February.
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Old 16th Feb 2007, 19:51
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Should it not read the 29th Feb (WORK THAT OUT) on what they might mean.

We will have to wait untill the 1st of March and hear what all has to say on the full signing.
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Old 16th Feb 2007, 20:16
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Flybe/Bacon

What will be left to pick up after all this indecision? Dozens of flights cancelled at BHX in the next few weeks. BMIBaby already announce more frequencies in direct competition with the merged Flybe.The cancellations say "operational" reasons on the BA website. Many of the flight and cabin crew have left BHX thats the reason why.Many BA staff dont want to work for Flybe it was arrogant of Flybe and BA management to presume that they would too!! Cancelled flights means passengers go to competitors.
What will Flybe have left to take over?
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Old 16th Feb 2007, 20:26
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They also really need to get those summer schedules out very soon
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Old 16th Feb 2007, 20:30
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Flybe's already announced increased EDI and GLA services to BHX (9 daily from March 25th).
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Old 16th Feb 2007, 20:49
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Flybe BHX

The press release is there but the flights arn't available to book.
They need to get their act together.
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Old 17th Feb 2007, 09:02
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26 Mar 07 BHX - EDI £0.79 (before tax!)
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Old 17th Feb 2007, 09:31
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Flybe Meltdown.

Word on the Street is, Flybe are stuffed. There are Major problems recruiting Captains for the Dash fleet. Flights are being cancelled and the last two 146's returned to British Aerospace are being recalled/re-leased to cover short fall in Dash capacity. So now the 146 guys will be overloaded even more than they have been already. Don't forget that a lot of the 146 guys are now rated on the 195 and there is a delay on the next 195's arrival, so effectively a crew shortage on the 146 as well.
The meltdown has begun.
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Old 17th Feb 2007, 15:16
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Flybe BHX-GLA/EDI

JAR I know that you can book on the present 6 times daily service ex BHX. Flybe in their press release yesterday stated that they will be operating 9 services per day to GLA and EDI. The 3 new services are not yet showing in the system those operated by BMIBaby are.
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 17:52
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Don't forget that alot of things will not happen and can't until the deal has been signed.....
 
Old 20th Feb 2007, 17:57
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FlyBE-BACON

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My point exactly, people will have made their plans by the time its all sorted out. They are handing passengers to the opposition which at BHX is the foreign full service airlines and BMIBaby.
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Old 26th Feb 2007, 16:38
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Norwich - Guernsey has returned for Summer 2007 and is available to book on their website altough they havent seemed to have anounced it yet, perhaps it will be tomorrow.

You can fly out from Norwich on sunday but there is no return flight

flights start on the 25th of March a month away

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Old 27th Feb 2007, 13:34
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and is the tranaction going to take place tomorrow?
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Old 27th Feb 2007, 13:47
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It had bloody better! Things are getting somewhat tense here

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Old 27th Feb 2007, 16:35
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BACON flights cancelled

From 14th March at BHX we can wave goodbye to MAD,BCN,TXL,LYS,GVA some GLA and EDI services. There will be just 5 ER4 aircraft based at BHX along with the previous based Flybe aircraft, in terms of routes its nothing short of disasterous at BHX. I believe MAN is seeing many routes discontinued also. Some of the flights that Flybe plan to take on ie: HAM look doomed, Flybe have 3 different timings for this flight ex BHX dependant on which day of departure, either early morning ,mid-morning or some other time at weekends!!!?? Hardly business friendly? Lets hope we can attract a real low fares airline like EZY or GSM who have real plans and ambitions for regional travel.
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Old 27th Feb 2007, 16:52
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Flybe E145s

Interesting looking on the CRS to note that....

1/ Flybe flight numbers on MAN/GLA have changed from 3 to 4 figure numbers
2/ They show services being operated with ER4 equipment from 2nd April (the date I checked)

Presume this is an early loading of schedules prior to the announcement!!

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Old 27th Feb 2007, 17:17
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Bhx-abz

One curious aspect is that BACON BHX-ABZ continues in March in
competition with Baby and flybe.

Okay the flybe only starts during the second week and BA ends around 26/3 but you would have thought that rather cancel flights where there is
no alternative ABZ would have gone first. Also some of the flights
cancelled are RJ100's (BCN & MAD), does this mean they are going
to cover the 145 flights?

I agree with Daza, major blow for BHX in the shortfall. Baby have tried
their best and are reaping the rewards already pax wise on some routes
but there is only so much they can do.

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Old 27th Feb 2007, 18:16
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Flybe financial results

Financial Times 27 February 2006

Flybe flies into loss

By Kevin Done, Aerospace Correspondent
Published: February 27 2007 16:56 | Last updated: February 27 2007 16:56

Flybe, the privately owned UK regional airline, fell sharply into loss last year as a result of the rapid expansion of its route network, write-downs on the value of some of its oldest aircraft and a big rise in fuel costs.
The group also incurred £1.6m in costs for its deferred initial public offering, which the group was forced to postpone last year as it embarked on the takeover of BA Connect, British Airways’ loss-making UK regional operations.
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Old 27th Feb 2007, 18:43
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So flybe has made a small loss. It would be surprising if it hadn't after the heavy investment in new equipment and routes, and the huge rise in fuel
prices over the last 12 months.

The proposed acquisition of BACON, and all the costs that that involves are part of the old adage 'speculate to accumulate.'

I don't think the headline tag to this thread is helpful .
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