Flybe - 3 (Including the FlyBe/BACon merger)
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Any idea what's happening with the Manchester-Brussels route? I would have liked to book the last flight back from Brussels on a Sunday in June (currently BACON) but with all this speculation I decided to go earlier with Brussels Airlines. Everything seems all up in the air, as it were, at the moment.
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What is the next step if at all
Who knows full stop?
Only Jimmy at Exeter and Willie at Heathrow are the only ones where the next step lies if at all.
With the summer 3 weeks away every thing was going to be in place by then it is sad for all us workers who have been down a similar road before.
May be time to pick up a brush and sweep for the council.
Only Jimmy at Exeter and Willie at Heathrow are the only ones where the next step lies if at all.
With the summer 3 weeks away every thing was going to be in place by then it is sad for all us workers who have been down a similar road before.
May be time to pick up a brush and sweep for the council.
I was a regular on BACon's DUS-BHX route. Due to the uncertainty of what is actually happening and grumpy staff (even though they have my full sympathy), I've now switched my custom to FLYTUI out of CGN. I wonder how many other former BACon customers are switching to alternate carriers? It may cost Flybe a great deal of money to lure these customers back.
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I've also given up on them.
I mainly flew EDI-LCY, which is supposedly to become a route for "BA Cityflyer" rather than flybe. So in theory I should be unaffected by the takeover. But in practice there have been a few delays at EDI caused by (justifiably) grumpy EDI groundstaff who were about to lose their jobs as a consequence of the takeover.
Also, having written complaining about BA's neglect of anyone who's unable or unwilling to fly through Heathrow both to the Exec Club (i'm a gold member) and the boss himself and had no reply, I'd prefer not to spend any money (even if it's someone else's) with BA any more.
For EDI -LON I take the train now and for international travel there are plenty of other (non BA, non Heathrow) options.
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I mainly flew EDI-LCY, which is supposedly to become a route for "BA Cityflyer" rather than flybe. So in theory I should be unaffected by the takeover. But in practice there have been a few delays at EDI caused by (justifiably) grumpy EDI groundstaff who were about to lose their jobs as a consequence of the takeover.
Also, having written complaining about BA's neglect of anyone who's unable or unwilling to fly through Heathrow both to the Exec Club (i'm a gold member) and the boss himself and had no reply, I'd prefer not to spend any money (even if it's someone else's) with BA any more.
For EDI -LON I take the train now and for international travel there are plenty of other (non BA, non Heathrow) options.
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Manchester - BE
Whats the latest that anyone has heard regarding the contract for the new BE setup? According to the BE website after 23 March all pax will be checking-in with BE and no longer BACON, 3 weeks to get the staff in and trained, thats a big order!!
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Flybe to park 6 DH4's?
I can't believe that nobody has posted the revised basing plans from
nextgenerationairline.
I am stunned that BHX reduced to just two DH4's (plus a 195 & 7 x 145's)from originally four and in April it shows a total of 23 DH4's in service throughout the network, they currently have 29 delivered.
It increases by one a month until 31 are in service by December 2007.
Re BHX is this part spite & to send a shot across BHX management's bows for getting into bed with Baby. I know some of it is to do with their crewing problems but down to two DH8's is an absolute insult to BHX and the people of the West Midlands on top of the loss of Madrid, Barcelona, Berlin & Lyon - total disaster for BHX!
I know it is better than what Bristol has got from 25/3/07 but I just
cannot believe them. There was over capacity on some routes at BHX
but this is just surrender to BMI Baby.
Also their press releases are starting to make Ryanair's look tame -
BHX to Edinburgh and Glasgow was to be 10 a day, then another quoting nine a day for summer 2007 (Press release a few weeks ago) and what is currently in the timetable.....eight.
Sound commercial decision or part spite?
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nextgenerationairline.
I am stunned that BHX reduced to just two DH4's (plus a 195 & 7 x 145's)from originally four and in April it shows a total of 23 DH4's in service throughout the network, they currently have 29 delivered.
It increases by one a month until 31 are in service by December 2007.
Re BHX is this part spite & to send a shot across BHX management's bows for getting into bed with Baby. I know some of it is to do with their crewing problems but down to two DH8's is an absolute insult to BHX and the people of the West Midlands on top of the loss of Madrid, Barcelona, Berlin & Lyon - total disaster for BHX!
I know it is better than what Bristol has got from 25/3/07 but I just
cannot believe them. There was over capacity on some routes at BHX
but this is just surrender to BMI Baby.
Also their press releases are starting to make Ryanair's look tame -
BHX to Edinburgh and Glasgow was to be 10 a day, then another quoting nine a day for summer 2007 (Press release a few weeks ago) and what is currently in the timetable.....eight.
Sound commercial decision or part spite?
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200 redundancies bit short methinks - there must be that many employed, sorry, previously employed by BACON on the Isle of Man alone.
Still what company director ever speaks the truth
200 redundancies bit short methinks - there must be that many employed, sorry, previously employed by BACON on the Isle of Man alone.
Still what company director ever speaks the truth
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Been told today over a pint or two of Robbies Best at The Thieves Neck this evening with one or two in ICI that following the cessation of all things BA at MAN, the Northern account with them is to be terminated once the miles agreement terminates in autumn.
To quote, "some organisations might feel pressurised to even relocate, but why would we stay loyal to an organisation which is turning their back on years of loyal patronage?"
How many other major companies will follow suit and trade in their accumulated years of miles?
To quote, "some organisations might feel pressurised to even relocate, but why would we stay loyal to an organisation which is turning their back on years of loyal patronage?"
How many other major companies will follow suit and trade in their accumulated years of miles?
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I would think they are likely to do very little with the DH3 as they are staying only 3 months or so other than taking BACon off side
EMB145 good question as by December they will still have 20 so maybe white tail and Flybe titles but maybe a good time to have the camera handy
Ian
EMB145 good question as by December they will still have 20 so maybe white tail and Flybe titles but maybe a good time to have the camera handy
Ian
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flybe/bacon
ok, wasnt quite sure where to put this one, just wanted a general feedback on the flybe/bacon takeover. Airports coping, anyone else have crew issues? staff issues? GHA coping? too much too soon? or has it gone dead smooth where you are..............
you get the idea?
you get the idea?
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Hi. Well I surpose that Flybe is coping well with the BACON takeover. There has been a number of issues at BHX however due to handling I think. But Apart from that its ok!
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flybe at BHX
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For a pax point a view I would imagine a week to forget. One day three
aircraft were running over two hours late, another day seven out of ten departures were late in one afternoon (not weather related).
On the plus side, hardly any (if any at all) cancellations and by last night,
just one or two delays of note.
Has there been problems with the new 195? I notice that there were two in yesterday with one positioning out after doing, I think an EDI return or was it covering for a sick dash?
Some feedback of loads indicate a good start on that score but with the
amount of consolidation at BHX this is what I would have expected.
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For a pax point a view I would imagine a week to forget. One day three
aircraft were running over two hours late, another day seven out of ten departures were late in one afternoon (not weather related).
On the plus side, hardly any (if any at all) cancellations and by last night,
just one or two delays of note.
Has there been problems with the new 195? I notice that there were two in yesterday with one positioning out after doing, I think an EDI return or was it covering for a sick dash?
Some feedback of loads indicate a good start on that score but with the
amount of consolidation at BHX this is what I would have expected.
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"Executive" Lounge
Anyone tried the FlyBe lounge at Gatwick South - just a few chairs and a coffee machine!
Can just imagine the reaction from a BA long haul Gold card member wanting to recuperate before the last leg home!
Can just imagine the reaction from a BA long haul Gold card member wanting to recuperate before the last leg home!
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2 e195s at bhx - night 29th
yeah mr olton
out of the box ec went tech so eb came in to operate the delayed be 7063 with over 90 tired and unhappy edi bound pax. Left at 2340 ish.
with brand new a/c tech issues are expected - overall the 195 a/c have performed well and have received positive passenger feedback
herman
out of the box ec went tech so eb came in to operate the delayed be 7063 with over 90 tired and unhappy edi bound pax. Left at 2340 ish.
with brand new a/c tech issues are expected - overall the 195 a/c have performed well and have received positive passenger feedback
herman
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I'm surprised that aviance weren't all over the flybe merger, considering that they are planning to take over the bulk of British Airways' handling contracts in the regions. They arguably have one of the most professional handling agent products around, and I don't think their lounges are too shabby either.
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195's
As a BHX local I have monitored the 195's dispatch rate, and for a new aircraft (obviously similar to the 170 & 190) it has been brilliant, especially "EA" when it was the only one.
Also when you compare it to the Jetblue 190's (big difference in numbers I know), flybe must we very happy with it's performance.
I have seen a couple of trip reports from passengers and they have been very positive but what about from an operating crews perspective in respect of flying and its fuel burn etc?
OP
Also when you compare it to the Jetblue 190's (big difference in numbers I know), flybe must we very happy with it's performance.
I have seen a couple of trip reports from passengers and they have been very positive but what about from an operating crews perspective in respect of flying and its fuel burn etc?
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FlyBe LGW Executive lounge
To be frank any lounge facility is preferrable to the shambles that is LGW South terminal.
Returned home on Thursday with family. Had found the on-line booking process, seat selection with all of us paying for Economy Plus, check-in and boarding pass print (complete with meal vouchers!) worked well both out and back.
Braved the terminal chaos for a while. Disgusted by the food, sun lotion bottles and other detritus strewn on the floor. Dissapointed by the lack of choice for food (Big Mac or Crusty bun) for both us and the kids.
Finally located the lounge and set the kids up with their video player and headphones. Woman came in, took all our four vouchers and mentioned that kids weren't allowed in the lounge, but as they were quiet it would be OK. No mention of this restriction on the website; kids' lounge vouchers happily printed on their meal voucher sheets. Longe facilities were fine, and as good as many of the smaller lounges I have encountered in far flung corners of the world.
My wife an I concluded (and incidently I am a BA Gold Card holder - for now) is that without the lounge facility we would under no circumstances use FlyBe from LGW South again, and if my kids are in fact banned from the lounge, then we'll be travelling with the competition via LCY in future.
Which is a shame as the crews were, as usual, absolutely wonderful.
Returned home on Thursday with family. Had found the on-line booking process, seat selection with all of us paying for Economy Plus, check-in and boarding pass print (complete with meal vouchers!) worked well both out and back.
Braved the terminal chaos for a while. Disgusted by the food, sun lotion bottles and other detritus strewn on the floor. Dissapointed by the lack of choice for food (Big Mac or Crusty bun) for both us and the kids.
Finally located the lounge and set the kids up with their video player and headphones. Woman came in, took all our four vouchers and mentioned that kids weren't allowed in the lounge, but as they were quiet it would be OK. No mention of this restriction on the website; kids' lounge vouchers happily printed on their meal voucher sheets. Longe facilities were fine, and as good as many of the smaller lounges I have encountered in far flung corners of the world.
My wife an I concluded (and incidently I am a BA Gold Card holder - for now) is that without the lounge facility we would under no circumstances use FlyBe from LGW South again, and if my kids are in fact banned from the lounge, then we'll be travelling with the competition via LCY in future.
Which is a shame as the crews were, as usual, absolutely wonderful.