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I guess this should be a ronald'sway airport thread then.....not euromanx.
I understand euromanx are going to have a hard time, but i can see flybe messing it up with taking to many routes on.
Euromanx will plod on, done fine againest BA, there only replacing them to manchester, not to sure about the other routes though.
I understand euromanx are going to have a hard time, but i can see flybe messing it up with taking to many routes on.
Euromanx will plod on, done fine againest BA, there only replacing them to manchester, not to sure about the other routes though.
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EuroMonkeys to step up MAN frequensey
Seams like Euromonkeys are going to step up there MAN schedule to 4x daliy from Feb 
to try and grab a bigger share of the market before flymaybe come along 
(assuming they do actualy come and not walk away from the deal). Seems a sensibul move to me. 
Stuff the red tails into Man while BACon 
are definitley NOT the islands' favorite airline!
to try and grab a bigger share of the market before flymaybe come along (assuming they do actualy come and not walk away from the deal). Seems a sensibul move to me. Stuff the red tails into Man while BACon are definitley NOT the islands' favorite airline!
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Doesn't seem that sensible to me, why would they think inreasing frequency now would change anything, if the market was there they could have done this at anytime. Its a gamble, if Flybe put on a quality service all bets will be off.
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EuroManx to step up MAN
I presum the red tails see a window of oportunitie while BACon are focused on all sorts of other problems between now and March.
The IOM guys ive spoken with resently all say the BA name is not loved at all on the island now as they are being deserted and the big engineering base there clossed. Lots of realy good long serving enginers could be out of a job in 2007. I think Euros will try and capitalyse on this anti BA sentiment in 2007 and add more capacity.
Much beter for Euros to move now rather than wate for FlyMaybe to come along with their 145 jet in April
The IOM guys ive spoken with resently all say the BA name is not loved at all on the island now as they are being deserted and the big engineering base there clossed. Lots of realy good long serving enginers could be out of a job in 2007. I think Euros will try and capitalyse on this anti BA sentiment in 2007 and add more capacity. Much beter for Euros to move now rather than wate for FlyMaybe to come along with their 145 jet in April
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The really brave move would be to bring back one of the RJ85s and send it down to LGW (and on to JER?)? That would probably garner a good level of local support, but I guess that slots would be a challenge.
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BlueIslands already operates a daily triangular service between GCI/JER and the IOM in a Jetstream. I doubt Euromanx could support such a limited route in an RJ!!
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Fellas. That there RJ idea calls for big cajones from the Redtails and all they've bin doing in recent tmes is shrinking in the cold. There must be some English airline already flying down to the channel islands from Gatwick anyhow. Lots of folk here on Fraggle thought those fancy jets could have done lots of things if the Redtails had the cajones - see, all comes down to cajones and, like I've said, they dont look too big, nossir!
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EuroPranx, AerArann and swanky airlines
..My Exec Club membership always helped make BA the first choice.....am not looking forward to a regime which wants £x for baggage or £y for a nominated seat. I've used BACon and before that Manx and before that British Midland (ahh...Viscounts...) and what I see is what I pay is what I get. FlyBe's Loco model is not what I want.
Just back from TFN (euro 0.01 each way from DUB or £25 rtn incl.). Yes Ryanair charged euro 9 per checked hold bag and only allowed 15kgs total (checked and hand baggage) ...
and yes one woman who though she had to buy up half of Tenerife for Xmas (even though they aren't customs union) and had to leave 6kgs of her baggage at TFN, went raving bonkers.
You CAN't pay for the excess anymore but any normal person doesn't NEED more than 15kgs
I know a couple from NZ that never had a winter in 25yrs (3 to 4 mths in the other hemisphere) who travelled with rolly cabin baggage only. Yes for up to 4mths stay. Drip dry and not more than 3 of each was their rule and they did not believe they were going to be invited by a King or Queen and left the fancy stuff at home. They stopped now as he is 86 and she 81.
In my AirNews reports, the incidents always seemed to be the large companies (didn't the Blair's BA machine overshoot the Florida runway just yesterday?) . Question is: Do you want to get there safely or impress the Jones's? There just isn't such a thing as a 4x4 Mercedes.
I fly very often and, I must say that the only airlines that ever made me a refund were Ryanair (£29) for a broken baggage lock and AerArann in Dublin who kindly refunded half of the IOM-DUB that checked us in but didn't take off due to gales on 12th Dec
I must also praise EuroManx GmbH who got us to Belfast the same day quickly for about £28 single. We never got to asking Manx2 but they would have done too.
Sadly, FlyZoom are still around £100 each way to/from Canada but recent tests showed that the "taxes and fees" were more than the flight cost. They are also a budget airline with lots of leg room - absolutely no reason to pay the £70 extra for upgrading. Save the money and have a fling in Canada or Northern USA
Regarding the discussions on EuroManx (including the idea to make it the Manx "national airline"):
a) If you book then you book with EuroManx GmbH - an Austrian company
b) If you fly then you probably fly with Irish, German, Swiss and sometimes a G- is on the tailfin.
c) OK so our Austrians are flying Irish aircraft with the EuroPranx livery - but look at the notice on the front door - "the stuff is wet or dry leased from AerArann"
Soooooooooo the planes don't belong to the airline and the airline is Austrian and the only thing Manx is the booking office at Ronaldsway (unless THAT moved to a telephone centre in India or someplace in the meanwhile)
I like flying with them when the price is right and their PAXload seems to be OK but Manx? Nosiree, they definitely do not belong to "themselves".
Cheers and happy days
Airnuts
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Airnuts, lovely post there about baggage 
and also check Flyglobespan's website for trips to canada.
Euromanx though, may have austrain reged a/c and are maintained by Austrain's/German's, but english pilots fly them and yes the call centre is based just outside ronaldsway, with the whole of the euromanx operation.
Ok they have leased an a/c from aer arann, but who doesnt lease a/c these days, unless you have a bottomless pit of cash that is
O, just wondering, if emx are doing a 4th flight to man during the summer, is another route getting cut off, or is another a/c on the horizon?
and also check Flyglobespan's website for trips to canada.Euromanx though, may have austrain reged a/c and are maintained by Austrain's/German's, but english pilots fly them and yes the call centre is based just outside ronaldsway, with the whole of the euromanx operation.
Ok they have leased an a/c from aer arann, but who doesnt lease a/c these days, unless you have a bottomless pit of cash that is
O, just wondering, if emx are doing a 4th flight to man during the summer, is another route getting cut off, or is another a/c on the horizon?
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Airnuts.
As you have a news site perhaps some facts may be helpful,
If you check back through the threads and speak to Euromanx staff on the IOM - here are a few facts.
Euromanx GmbH operates the 2 Dash 8s based on IOM with Euromanx flight crew and cabin staff. Euromanx GmbH if you check out European AOC holders, has a world wide unrestricted Air Operators Certificate.
EuroManx Ltd is a registered Compnay on the Isle of Man
The Aer Arann ATR 72 is on a sole lease to Euromanx and operates with Euromanx cabin staff some 70 rotations a week to LPL and it is based on IOM.
When these aircraft are on planned or unplanned maintenance Euromanx like any other operator brings in a third party wet lease to cover the schedules.
Euromanx offices including reservations is on the Isle of Man (Ex Blue Diamax building with the Big free carpark for their Gold members) and altogether EM employs about 90 staff all on the IOM.
All Euromanx Flights plus others are handled by Flight Support, a sister company also based in the Isle of Man employing more than 50 + people as well as staff at MAN & LPL.
Last month Euromanx had increased their share of the IOM market:
http://www.iom-airport.com/lib/docs/...ov2006ver2.pdf
As you have a news site perhaps some facts may be helpful,
If you check back through the threads and speak to Euromanx staff on the IOM - here are a few facts.
Euromanx GmbH operates the 2 Dash 8s based on IOM with Euromanx flight crew and cabin staff. Euromanx GmbH if you check out European AOC holders, has a world wide unrestricted Air Operators Certificate.
EuroManx Ltd is a registered Compnay on the Isle of Man
The Aer Arann ATR 72 is on a sole lease to Euromanx and operates with Euromanx cabin staff some 70 rotations a week to LPL and it is based on IOM.
When these aircraft are on planned or unplanned maintenance Euromanx like any other operator brings in a third party wet lease to cover the schedules.
Euromanx offices including reservations is on the Isle of Man (Ex Blue Diamax building with the Big free carpark for their Gold members) and altogether EM employs about 90 staff all on the IOM.
All Euromanx Flights plus others are handled by Flight Support, a sister company also based in the Isle of Man employing more than 50 + people as well as staff at MAN & LPL.
Last month Euromanx had increased their share of the IOM market:
http://www.iom-airport.com/lib/docs/...ov2006ver2.pdf
"The percentage of total passengers carried by each airline has changed
again, to become; Euromanx 38.7%; BA Connect 29.2%; Aer Arann 7.3%;
Manx2 6.6%; Eastern 6.6%; Flybe 3.5%; Loganair (BA) 3.2%; VLM 1.2%;
British NorthWest 0.9%; Blue Islands 0.8%; and charters 2.0%."
again, to become; Euromanx 38.7%; BA Connect 29.2%; Aer Arann 7.3%;
Manx2 6.6%; Eastern 6.6%; Flybe 3.5%; Loganair (BA) 3.2%; VLM 1.2%;
British NorthWest 0.9%; Blue Islands 0.8%; and charters 2.0%."
Call them names etc etc but they are operating a prety good schedule, not charging for bags, giving complimentary refreshments and in the last 12 months have delivered a consistant service.
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Jockey fella. That there Airnut fella has some fair points and the manxies'll never see the Redtails as real manx with them foreign pilots who you can't understand when you get on the airplane (if theysay anything anyway) and why is a Austrian company flying airplane's from Fraggle anyway. Why can't you get British ones. National airlines should be national and not a mix and match so you'll have to do better Jockey fella, yessir.
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Euromanx pilots are mainly British Tinwald. The airline have been providing a fine service to the island for the last 18 months and as they have a European AOC I have no problem with them.
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You're right there about the fares. The lowest usually wins and the Redtails are as good as any with the fares. But the locals can't see a national airline which is what the redtail boss wants it to be when half of it ain't even Manx. You wouldnt see an Irish airline claiming to be Sweden's national airline now, would you, captain. Nossir! Get the feeling your yonder over there and not here, too.
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Airnuts and Tinwald:
As Island Jockey already mentioned EMX is more "Manx" than you two would like to believe.
As an ex-employee I can confirm that all their cabin crew (even the ones on the wetleased Aerann ATR are IOMfolk (give or take a few imported ones). All pilots are IOM-based and most are English (there aren't enough pilots on the island to fill the roster ).
You are however correct in saying that it's an austrian reg on both HBB and HBC. Their Flight Ops director is austrian, head of training is Swiss, Chief Pilot is British and as mentioned most pilots are British.
All other staff on the ground are "Rock-folk".
It actually goes to show that they really are "euro"+manx....
Cheers...
As Island Jockey already mentioned EMX is more "Manx" than you two would like to believe.
As an ex-employee I can confirm that all their cabin crew (even the ones on the wetleased Aerann ATR are IOMfolk (give or take a few imported ones). All pilots are IOM-based and most are English (there aren't enough pilots on the island to fill the roster
).You are however correct in saying that it's an austrian reg on both HBB and HBC. Their Flight Ops director is austrian, head of training is Swiss, Chief Pilot is British and as mentioned most pilots are British.
All other staff on the ground are "Rock-folk".
It actually goes to show that they really are "euro"+manx....
Cheers...
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Tinny! Hey fella, good christmas?
Come on....gotta admit they're getting more manx by the month. All the ladies and gents over at EM House are pretty much locals, a lot of the flight crew are british, cabin crew-saders () are the majority manx / locals as mentioned.
From the paying publics point of view, the staff are manx, the crew are manx, the flash-8's
have a manx tail (despite the OE- regs), the registered office is on the Island, the customers fly to/from the IOM.....they're a manx airline!
Of course it goes deeper than that but I'm trying to avoid bringing it up so I'll stop typing now.
Tara!!
RR
Come on....gotta admit they're getting more manx by the month. All the ladies and gents over at EM House are pretty much locals, a lot of the flight crew are british, cabin crew-saders (
) are the majority manx / locals as mentioned.From the paying publics point of view, the staff are manx, the crew are manx, the flash-8's
have a manx tail (despite the OE- regs), the registered office is on the Island, the customers fly to/from the IOM.....they're a manx airline!Of course it goes deeper than that but I'm trying to avoid bringing it up so I'll stop typing now.
Tara!!
RR
