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What people want to know though is, if they book a flight for say June with EMX who/what are they going to be flying with/in.
I am sure there is a plan somewhere, they just need to find it.
I am sure there is a plan somewhere, they just need to find it.
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I am sure there is a plan somewhere, they just need to find it.
I am sure there is a plan somewhere, they just need to find it.
It looks more like they do have a plan and the answer's FlyBE.
So sell the aircraft and LCY slots then arrividerchy Roma!
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Euromanx takeover?
Is there an interested party wanting to take over Euromanx?
There has been talks going on in the Isle of Man with an interested company within the last week or so, has any body any ideas on who and why?
There has been talks going on in the Isle of Man with an interested company within the last week or so, has any body any ideas on who and why?
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What exactly is there to take over at Euromanx if they have sold their aircraft.
The name, LCY slots and an Austrian AOC and thats about it from what I can see.
Unless of course they are extremely profitable
What exactly is there to take over at Euromanx if they have sold their aircraft.
The name, LCY slots and an Austrian AOC and thats about it from what I can see.
Unless of course they are extremely profitable
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Manx Crab looks to be right on
. im sure Euromanx have been talking to anyone to try & find a lifeline but when youve responded to increased competition by selling your planes and have your last monopoly route disappearing next month youll need a heck of a lot of bull
to make a good story out of that. 
. im sure Euromanx have been talking to anyone to try & find a lifeline but when youve responded to increased competition by selling your planes and have your last monopoly route disappearing next month youll need a heck of a lot of bull to make a good story out of that.
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A bit harsh midrif. I know of quite a few FD & cabin crew who have given sterling service to Euromanx while being treated like mushrooms. I know vote with your feet applies, but it's still a shame they should have to.
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Who owes more money, Northern Rock or EuroManx?
It's going to be a tough summer and not good news for the EMX overdraft. Between the two but I know who the winner will be.
I know many of my old friends who now fly for them and I wish them the best of luck in finding a new job.
It's going to be a tough summer and not good news for the EMX overdraft. Between the two but I know who the winner will be.
I know many of my old friends who now fly for them and I wish them the best of luck in finding a new job.
I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE
With 3 TP operators going / gone over the last few months (Whoosh/Citystar/Euromanx) one wonders what things will look like in another twelve months.
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One wonders like things will look like in 12 months?
What are you on about? Tell me apart from the obvious, what do those 3 companies have in common?
Someone should tell Flybe and Aer Arann that Turbo Prop operators are going out of business. We best all get jet conversions quick.
I heard last week that BMI were going to start a LHR IOM LHR service with a 319. My point is, most of the stuff on here is all made up, nothing anyone as really said in the last few posts is credible.
I know, lets stop stirring and lets discuss the facts.
Oh thats right none of you have any.
What are you on about? Tell me apart from the obvious, what do those 3 companies have in common?
Someone should tell Flybe and Aer Arann that Turbo Prop operators are going out of business. We best all get jet conversions quick.
I heard last week that BMI were going to start a LHR IOM LHR service with a 319. My point is, most of the stuff on here is all made up, nothing anyone as really said in the last few posts is credible.
I know, lets stop stirring and lets discuss the facts.
Oh thats right none of you have any.
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I know plenty of EMX and other crews read this, so I just want to say I do genuinely feel for you all at this point. The future looks very rocky indeed, unless you're in the Blue corner. However, for all IOM based pilots not flying Q400s right now, there may be opportunities in the next week or so. PM me for the low down.
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Easybeat,
I should have been a bit clearer: what I'm on about is that small UK TP operators are being squeezed out of the market now that BE has effectively joined so many dots on the map. Is there an independant future for small TP operators with 30+ seat aircraft?
sr
What are you on about?
sr
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I think the UK is quickly moving in a direction we have already seen in Germany where almost all independent operators have disappeared (EAE, Dauair, Cityair) or have been swallowed up by either Lufthansa (Eurowings, Contactair, Cirrus Airlines, Augsburg Airways) or Air Berlin (LGW). There are only OLT and Intersky left now in Germany. OLT only survives because of PSOs and corporate shuttle, with the odd scheduled route thrown in. Intersky, in a way like Air Southwest, has found a niche in which it is able to survive, which, however, also limits future growth. Once Air Berlin is getting some Q400s, we will certainly see some of Intersky's and OLT's remaining routes coming under attack as well-patronized 30seater routes with somewhat higher fares are a fair game for a LCC-style Q400 operation.
Over here in Germany folks are already holding their breath whether Air Berlin will survive its acquistion spree and the breathtaking expansion. Pretty much the same concerns will be true for Flybe in the UK, I guess. If they fail to succeed, they will have, to some extent, destroyed the regional markets that are too small to be served by more traditional LCCs with 120-150 seaters.And in the end, Lufthansa will have the market more or less for its own, controlling all remaining regional airlines and the merged TUIFly/Germanwings LCC-operation.
I think the UK is quickly moving in a direction we have already seen in Germany where almost all independent operators have disappeared (EAE, Dauair, Cityair) or have been swallowed up by either Lufthansa (Eurowings, Contactair, Cirrus Airlines, Augsburg Airways) or Air Berlin (LGW). There are only OLT and Intersky left now in Germany. OLT only survives because of PSOs and corporate shuttle, with the odd scheduled route thrown in. Intersky, in a way like Air Southwest, has found a niche in which it is able to survive, which, however, also limits future growth. Once Air Berlin is getting some Q400s, we will certainly see some of Intersky's and OLT's remaining routes coming under attack as well-patronized 30seater routes with somewhat higher fares are a fair game for a LCC-style Q400 operation.
Over here in Germany folks are already holding their breath whether Air Berlin will survive its acquistion spree and the breathtaking expansion. Pretty much the same concerns will be true for Flybe in the UK, I guess. If they fail to succeed, they will have, to some extent, destroyed the regional markets that are too small to be served by more traditional LCCs with 120-150 seaters.And in the end, Lufthansa will have the market more or less for its own, controlling all remaining regional airlines and the merged TUIFly/Germanwings LCC-operation.
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Mirdif, I make no apologies.
I'm offering an olive branch to those in most need right now. Facing a black hole like this is a nightmare we all wish would never happen, but the inevitable means folk are looking for security. My employers are sensitve to this, it also makes good economics. Irrespective of commercial concerns, it's all about feeding your family.
Some folk have or will make the choice to move off Island, and some for family reasons really need to stay put. For those folk, we can possibly help out. Is that so wrong?
I'm offering an olive branch to those in most need right now. Facing a black hole like this is a nightmare we all wish would never happen, but the inevitable means folk are looking for security. My employers are sensitve to this, it also makes good economics. Irrespective of commercial concerns, it's all about feeding your family.
Some folk have or will make the choice to move off Island, and some for family reasons really need to stay put. For those folk, we can possibly help out. Is that so wrong?
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Am I missing some news story or have you all decided that the airline you have slagged off and the austrians pilots (first officers) in this forum for the past twevle months is now no more.
Its really great of you to offer us all jobs. How can I thank you and your employers enough I so appreciate the offer but I presume this is not open to captains as there are enough of you on the island !!!!
Thanks but no thanks
Its really great of you to offer us all jobs. How can I thank you and your employers enough I so appreciate the offer but I presume this is not open to captains as there are enough of you on the island !!!!
Thanks but no thanks
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Seems that way Austro... Im with you,
Flapoperator... don't bother showing us the olive branch, if anything it is rubbing salt into the wound
We all have our problems; I'm sure the BACX Flybe merger gave you sleepless nights. You got through it without any help from this thread.
I'm sure if anyone wants to go to your side, they will have already sent in a CV.
I'm just at a blank as the rest of you, but I come in do my job and go home. I have no idea what's going to happen. But I like flying for a local airline, the boys and girls at EMX get the job done. They are not some massive engine where in the grand scheme of things I'm just another number.
Flapoperator... don't bother showing us the olive branch, if anything it is rubbing salt into the wound
We all have our problems; I'm sure the BACX Flybe merger gave you sleepless nights. You got through it without any help from this thread.
I'm sure if anyone wants to go to your side, they will have already sent in a CV.
I'm just at a blank as the rest of you, but I come in do my job and go home. I have no idea what's going to happen. But I like flying for a local airline, the boys and girls at EMX get the job done. They are not some massive engine where in the grand scheme of things I'm just another number.
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My only offer was really to help find those CVs in the pile and lift them up where they'll get noticed! It's a sad fact that often the skippers are the ones who are more rooted locally, and there are no opportunities for them from my end. I only wish there were. Unless you fancy West Air for function flight tests that is.