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Old 17th May 2007, 13:59
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Dash 8 prices

Seems a little steep, especially as they would have been paying lease charges for the last couple of years?
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Old 17th May 2007, 14:40
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7.5m pounds for 2, probably not bad in the current market.
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man overboard?

Rumors in the Railway at dinnertime that theres going to be a very top level resignation announced by Euros tomorrow.anyone herd anything

Is it to do with the Telegraph loans story?
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Old 18th May 2007, 08:01
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Ok so EuroManx sign a 15million USD deal for the dash's. It shows two things. One is that someone has agreed to lend them the money and secondly for that to happen it would mean that their debt is at worst manageable. So that would suggest that whatever has happened at HBOS is not a big deal for EuroManx. Also all the talk of mergers, why would anybody be interested in merging?? it seems that recent developments have been a long time coming, consolidation in the market has been needed and now with FlyBe and EuroManx almost equal in market share, the smaller carriers like Manx2 and Eastern can fill in the gaps!
 
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If there is a resignation in my opion it is completly unjust, the financing of the airline was always in the hands of its directors who have nothing to do with the day to day running of the business. I hope the take their share of any pain being handed out.
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Hansol what pain are you referring to? So far there has been no hard evidence to base any of these rumours. All that is confirmed is HBOS have dismissed somebody that leant the money to an airline that is 99% certain to be EuroManx. I there is a dismissal then that would be a sign that there may be problems. What source are you basing the idea of the dismissal on??
 
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Red, I think the scale of unsecured lending to EM is very large, if that is pulled away the future is going to be challenging. Why would another bank lend, what security could be given, if HBOS want their millions back who is going to pay.

I think it was IOMSpotter that mentioned resignation not me.
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Old 18th May 2007, 12:37
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My Post was just in general to both IOMspotter and Hansol. My point is just that if the problems are as bad as some of this talk makes it sound then how have EuroManx obtained finance for the Dash's? A bank/investor is not going to give finance to a company with crippling debt's! Therefore it would suggest that EuroManx are NOT in such bad shape.
Only a suggestion.

UNLESS

The person rom HBOS has found a place in another bank!!
 
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or whoever lent on the Dash's had no idea of the earlier borrowings.

Anyway we shouldn't speculate I am sure JS and the team there will be doing all they can to keep the airline going.
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The loan cannot be pulled straight away even if there was problems, there will be contracts. And nobody would lend 15 million USD without taking a peek at the accounts!!

This is out of proportion as EuroManx are showing no signs of problems.
 
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Was told today as I passed through a beautifully sunny Isle of Man that one of the senior managers at EM has left to take a similar position with Flybe - any truth in this?.
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Old 22nd May 2007, 03:17
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Not heard anything about a senior guy leaving.
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Did you go through the terminal??

Some really big wooden spoons use the terminal , anything to give Em a bad name.

I stopped holding my breath a long time ago

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Old 23rd May 2007, 21:38
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Very interesting, I'd heard the same story about a Seanior figure in Em jumping ship too......
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The only guy that might be of interest to Flybe I think would be the head of Eng, he at least has lots of Dash experience.

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Not to mention knowlege of the EMB family...
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Old 26th May 2007, 17:39
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and the RJ / 146, seems petty good at disposal, good guy to work for and escaped from the BACX mess before it went Bacon.
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Old 12th Jun 2007, 20:16
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may figures

I hear Euros had a good month on MAN in May. Have the May passenger share figures come out yet?
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 01:26
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Several recent posts moved here: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=281581
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Just booked another IOM/LCY return...

I see the credit card surcharge has now doubled to £6 and the minimum charge for changing a booking has doubled to £20

Under financial pressure? Copying the competition's charges?

All I know is this attack on my wallet means I shall now look for the lowest fare every time. The quality of service arguement has gone (sorry Melissa - you were an inspiration!)

So IOM/London has two players competing in the lowcost/small service arena. I remain jealous of our Jersey chums who still enjoy competition and choice between low cost and full service.
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