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Old 30th Apr 2007, 03:28
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Well there's work, then there's sitting around in the Mount murray all day !
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Old 4th May 2007, 22:52
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Golf Links

Maybe they should switch to Golf links if its still open. We used to overnite there on the freight runs occasionally. Great for an early round of golf in the summer
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BHD

I see Euromanx have now scrapped the Mon & Fri pm BHD post TT from their schedule. Does anyone know if it's running on Sundays still? Friend of mine who was booked to travel was called with a time change to 11am on Sunday. Is this permanent or a short term fix?
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Old 7th May 2007, 17:07
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Looking through the online booking system, it looks like the schedule change for sunday is going to be permanent, due to EMX doing 3 services to Manchester on one aircraft, and Belfast and London City with the other one.

I think EMX still want to try and have some fingers in the belfast pie, so will keep it to 1 flight per day to BHD
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Any comment?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...3/cnhbos13.xml
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It would seem serious although by now i would imagine the airline, would have paid some of the money back. It could be intresting if the bank becomes involved. I have heard figures of between 35 and 40 million GBP mentioned. Any truth behind this??
 
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April Figs

I don't believe they can owe that sort of money but I guess the April pax figures will show who's doing well or not? They are still not on IOM website. Anyone know what the delay is or who the winners and losers are?
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Old 15th May 2007, 05:27
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Believe it. I think this is the missing part of the EM story, lets hope the bank doesn't call in the loans.
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Old 15th May 2007, 10:27
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"Just wait till next wednesday everyone, then we will know for definate the Euromanx/flybe plan." That was posted back in February by part69.

'Trouble at Euromanx Mill' seems to be mounting. No announcements, no expansion - and now, PERHAPS, no money. For all those at Euromanc let's hope that all is OK.
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Old 15th May 2007, 11:58
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Anyone know if the aircraft are owned by the company called Euromanx or have they been spirited into some other company before the ballon goes up?
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The figures mentioned were only ones that have been rumoured so obviously they may not be correct. If you think about the disaster of a season they had with the RJ's Dorniers etc then it would seem possible for them to have been in that sort of trouble. The chances are that now after several years of consolidation they are financially a much stronger airline. Because of this a recall of the loans may not be the end of the world for them. Its mentioned in previous posts that there is a lack of expansion. It is not always the only measure of sucess. Consolidating what they are good at would seem key to the future of EuroManx. Like Manx2 had the expansion onto Stansted which didn't work so they concentrated on Belfast and now have a massive part of the market!

 
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I like the airline but I would be suprised if they have ever made money, even on the back of a fag packet it doesn't add up. There may be be more problems coming from the Austrian CAA once they get wind of possible financial problems.
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what sort of problems would that cause from the Austrian CAA? I thought they were more relaxed than the English CAA
 
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april stats

april iom pax stats have now been posted at last on http://www.gov.im/airport/news/viewn...yairtraffi.xml

They don't make good reading. The NW market crashed by about 10% and Euros were well down on every route. Even with the FlyBe disruptions it looks like even their MAN numbers must have dropped and VLM are now doing well on LCY.
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Old 15th May 2007, 18:11
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As mentioned in the report, alot of the drops on manchester and liverpool were due to the 5 days off fog, which very much disrupted operations, which is the main reason why EMX were down this month. Plus, while REJ was on maintainence, EMX nearly had every single ATR72 on the AerArann alphabet in april, as the replacements Aer Arann sent went tech, which was another factor

It doesn't make bad reading to be honest as BE and EMX have the biggest shares 36 and 34% respectively. On all of the LCY flights whether it be by EMX or VLM, pax numbers are very similar on each flight, plus VLM have put in another rotation on a sunday
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Old 16th May 2007, 03:35
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Whatever the reason for the numbers the pax were not carried and the Redtails will have had a poor month. May/June will be better with TT but the overall decline in pax numbers continues.
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San expiry

Talking to some friends there every staff member is very dissapointed at EuroManx with lack of activity. There has been no communication from management at all over the last few months.

As for the money issues, no one knows just yet its just speculation. I think the best thing for EM would be to merge with another company or sell up, its evident by lack of expansion they no longer have any financial backing.
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Old 17th May 2007, 10:53
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Is there anything to sell or merge? If the aircraft are owned by the company presumably they are financed, the company rents its head office, and the IOM is open skys so the routes have little or no value. I am suprised there has been no response from local press or polititions to the Sunday Telegraph article. There's a rabbit coming out of a hat somwhere, I wonder if the government are putting their hands in their pockets, or perhaps Flybe or Aer Arann are dealing? Or perhaps everything is rosy and I am a scare mongerer with nothing better to do, I hope so
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carve up

Well I assume Aer Arran would hapily take on LPL as it seems they operate it all the time anyway. They've operated the route before, own the aircraft and crews know the ropes.

VLM would step up frequency on LCY as they have an aircraft here most of the day, FlyBe could take on MAN and Manx2 BHD.

Don't think our Government can get involved financially - everyone would want a hand out.
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Old 17th May 2007, 11:56
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more debt

last months IOM goverment newsleter was talking about another $15m of liability.............. for two old aircraft................

http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/iomfinanc...etterfeb07.pdf
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