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Old 7th Dec 2006, 21:27
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I know, slight U-turn!! It's effectively going back to EMA because no-one will say the cities bit, which is apparently a secondary title anyway.
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Old 7th Dec 2006, 23:14
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I'm very pleased to see the name change back to East Midlands Airport. I think it will do a lot for community relations in the area, as to be fair, the airport, as with much of the aviation industry, cannot afford any enemies right now. Also practically, many foreign airports still use "East Midlands Airport" on their information boards or in announcement, a lot of road signage is for "East Midlands Airport" having not been altered and Ryanair call the airport "East Midlands Airport" they've never used "Nottingham" to sell the airport.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 01:41
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I have never heard so much rubbish in all my life, its total boll#cks, does it matter what city it is just as long as it is advertised correctly, so we are back to where we were before no one out side the East Midlands having a faintest idea where the damn place is, at least to the 60% of the rest of the world they understood where Nottingham was. this is such a Nottm, Derby, and Leicester attitude, totally against one another and not understanding the bigger gains, ask any American where the East Midlands is and he will have no idea, and actually ask people who do not live in the East Midlands what counties are in the East Midlands and I bet they would have no idea. At least Nottingham EMA instilled a little pride into the place now, its just plane old boring East Midlands Airport, what waste of time and effort and lets hope the passengers now donít get lost hunting for this place called the East Midlands.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 01:50
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The more I think about this the more frustrated I get with the peoples attitude in the region, so just call the damn place in alphabetical order as not to upset anyone Derby, Leicester and Nottingham, 3 Cities Airport, oh I bet someone still wont like it, as Leicester is not first. Their are so many other problems in the world, does it really matter.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 06:43
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Official announcement and masterplan now online including new logo.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 07:31
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I think its the sign of very weak management.

The name change 3 years ago was borne by pressure from the the then MD of bmibaby Tony Davis, and it looks like they have now bowed to pressure from Civic Leaders in Derby and Leicester.

Although it was a good wind up tool for my colleagues from Derby and Leicester, I didnt think the name change to Nottingham in the first place was right.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 09:34
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East Midlands Airport - Nottingham, Leicester, Derby.

Managers at Nottingham East Midlands Airport have announced the site's new name will be East Midlands Airport - Nottingham, Leicester, Derby


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6220118.stm
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 10:36
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They should have just called it M1 junction 24 airport. At least then people would have a rough idea where it was.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 12:28
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The name is just one of those things that will always be an issue IMO. Let's just wait and see what happens with this one.....

The MAster Plan makes interesting reading.

Seem the Terminal Extension/Expansion is still on - with the same artists impressions in the publication and comments such as:-

"Additional investment in passenger terminal facilities is likely to be required, pending the planned major reconfiguration and expansion of the terminal facilities in 2009, to meet the requirements of long haul airlines and to remain competitive."

Enough in there to keep most people happy - it states that the primary focus will be on meeting the needs of the LoCo's. But with the flexibility to add things such as Airbridges should any future Long Haul carrier require them.

We just need to see whether it is MAG that delivers these promises, or a new owner.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 12:28
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The benefit to reverting back to "East Midlands Airport" is clearly that this is already the name that most local people refer to the airport as (I've never heard people in the pub, bus drivers, friends etc. call it "Nottingham East Midlands for example) but also as mentioned earlier, the EMA name is predominantly used on motorway signage in the UK and in airport signage abroad. The full title of the airport adding the three cities highlights that the airport wants to serve the business and tourism needs for these three cities, which now get equal advertising. The airport is closest to Derby, with the bigger cities Nottingham and Leicester just a bit further up the road. I fully support the name change to more fairly represent the local area.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 14:23
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I still think East Nottinghamshire East Midlands Airport would be better suited, or ENEMA for short
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 14:49
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masterplan

hey all i also noticed ban on training aircraft not normally operating into ema
does this mean the end of virgin training at ema and also a ban on saturdays
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 14:53
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Originally Posted by bmibaby.com View Post
The benefit to reverting back to "East Midlands Airport" is clearly that this is already the name that most local people refer to the airport as (I've never heard people in the pub, bus drivers, friends etc. call it "Nottingham East Midlands for example)
WTF has what local people call it got to do with it - by and large, they know where it is and they appreciate its going to remain in roughly the same geographic location and provide broadly the same services irrespective of its name. Its visitors from afar being able to place it that's important, and in that respect I think its a mistake for the airport's management to have pandered to the egos of some local council(or)s and de-emphasise its location by going back to a generic name not widely understood even throughout the UK let alone abroad. Anyone who thinks airports and airlines will show the full "East Midlands Airport - Nottingham, Derby and Leicester" name on websites and departure screens are just decieving themselves. Whatever, this grubby little airport deserves whatever comes to it - even the current MD comes from "pile 'em high sell 'em cheap" Asda which says a lot about how the airport is now run.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 15:11
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...and actually ask people who do not live in the East Midlands what counties are in the East Midlands and I bet they would have no idea.
I DO live in the East Midlands and I haven't a clue what counties are in it. It should be named after the local large town or city for the benefit of foreign travellers. We mostly know where our airports are but they don't.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 17:32
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Another U-turn in the life in EMA!
Agree with Maddog- Personally would have kept the Notts bit - (although I not really that bothered or as passionate as you seem about it)
gives the airport some sort of location and Identity for the travelling public - especially those overseas- surely thats Important -
(and no I don't live in Notts!)
For the locals it will always be East Midlands Airport - I too have never heard it called Nema in my local pub either - but that's because we're all '3 sheets to the wind' to care - as long as it delivers what we want-
Am sure prople did not boycott the airport just because the airport wasn't called Derby-Leicester- or Skegness International!!
But as egnxema states- (btw - were you not tempted to change your name to egnxNema!) - the important issue is WHO? will be providing the much needed continued future investment.
In my Honest opinion
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 17:40
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Lets just drop the name thing ay?

At the end of the day - the airport finds itself right in the middle of possibly the 3 most fiercely competitive (for no real reason) cities in the UK. Plus - each of the 3 counties and each of the 3 cities have Councillors that are too stuck up their own ar**s to know anything about commercial aviation.

The name change is a result of external pressure. It is sad that the airport crumbled to the pressure from the ex WW MD, and now has crumbled to pressure from biased councils.

For an example of what I mean - read the BBC link above - some duffer from Nottingham City Council complaining that the change was made without consulting him or anyone in the city!!

It seems to be a reflection of the airport pandering to local voices rather than getting on with developing an strong busy UK regional airport.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 17:47
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I can appreciate the lack of enthusiasm for a further name change, however I think that in a time when aviation is seen as an easy target for critics, buttering up a couple of local councillors for good local publicity is always a good thing. Let's not forget that it is Leicestershire who provide the police force, and not just people in Nottingham, rather people in all three counties which make up the "East Midlands" who have to live under the flightpaths of flights operating into the airport. On the more positive note, this new name gives the three major cities as well as the region as a whole a sense of ownership in the airport.

Whilst I can imagine the name will be marketed as just "East Midlands" I really don't think this has ever caused problems in the past, and most airlines will use the full name for information about the airport when people click to find out more on their websites. Let's not forget the large number of people who speak English abroad who could probably decipher that East Midlands is in the middle of the country to the east roughly. Ryanair who have a large number of incoming passengers to the region have never called the airport Nottingham East Midlands on their website or promotional literature, and still manage to bring people to the area.

I'm pleased to see that the master plan has been revealed with some real targets for expansion and for targeting this growth whilst seriously looking at keeping the airport site as environmentally friendly as possible. It will be a shame to lose a lot of the training flights, but they are a real noise nuisance to local people, and will do a lot to create further goodwill in local communtiies.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 18:37
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Originally Posted by phil_2405 View Post
Official announcement and masterplan now online including new logo.
Masterplan - good song by Oasis that!!!
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 18:46
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Originally Posted by egnxema View Post
Lets just drop the name thing ay?


The name change is a result of external pressure. It is sad that the airport crumbled to the pressure from the ex WW MD, and now has crumbled to pressure from biased councils.
quite right egnxema - lets drop the name thing ay!
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 18:49
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I've got a pretty good idea why MADDOG RED isn't too happy 'bout the new name change ! And it's nowt to do with Aircraft !
Although, I agree it's been a total of waste of money from 1st to last.
Who is going to pay for this farce, cos that's what it is.
The airport is a circus and we're the clowns !

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