EAST MIDLANDS - 3

[andy_13]

Hi all.
I found this thread completely by chance but as I live in Beeston and am a fairly regular EAM spotter/photogapher it was a good find. Anyway just thought I'd say hi.
Andy S

[egnxema]

Hello Andy - welcome!


Anyone fancy MAD?

EMAMAD 19JAN07
MADEMA 22JAN07

An incredible £17 rtn inc taxes!

[bmibaby.com]

I'm interested to know right now how much more space we're going to have on the ramp for any more aircraft after those that have currently been confirmed;

Ryanair 5x Boeing 737-800s
bmibaby 5 x Boeing 737-300s (think all -500s will be in BHX or disposed of)
easyJet 3 x Airbus A319
bmi regional 1 x ERJ-145
MyTravel 1 x Airbus A320
First Choice 1 x Airbus A321 plus 1 x Boeing 767-300 (the latter six days a week)
Thomsonfly 1 x Boeing 737-300, 1 Boeing 757-200 and one Boeing 767-300
Thomas Cook 1 x Boeing 757-200
Air Malta 1 x Airbus A320 weeklong, plus additional weekend flights

I'd like to see more easyJet and bmibaby flights but firstly you have to wonder where is the market for these flights to go, and secondly does the airport have space both on the ramp and in the terminal for more based aircraft?

[egnxema]

bmibaby.com - is the 1 x Eastern Airways J41 to add to that?

With regard to EZY and WW expansion:

How about

BCN, LIS, MRS, NCE, MUC, LEI ? These will fit into either company's network. If EZY make CGN work - they surely could with MUC.

FR expansion seems virtually endless. I think more and more Polish routes will be added.

And another place EZY or FR should go for is RAK. It is a hot short break destination, and Thomsonfly have spotted the potential and will possibly be adding RAK as a destination in it regional flying programme next year (source TTG).

[phil_2405]

Originally Posted by egnxema

If EZY make CGN work - they surely could with MUC.

I would love someone to launch services to MUC from NEMA. Didn't someone mention a few weeks back that WW had applied for slots at MUC?

[SAM-EMA]

It looks like they might need to put a few on the east cargo apron. Its not as if they won't do it because when I went to Dublin a TOM B757 was parked on there with airstairs up to it. But anyway, my question was how easy (or difficult) do you think it would be for them to join the east cargo apron to the PAX apron. I know that the UPS building is there but I didn't know how much room there is to join them. I hope someone can help.

Plus, I think that it will be great for EMA to get such routes as mentioned back.
And, yes I'm sure that WW did apply for MUC slots.

Thanks SAM-EMA

[Chilli Monster]

Originally Posted by SAM-EMA

my question was how easy (or difficult) do you think it would be for them to join the east cargo apron to the PAX apron. I know that the UPS building is there but I didn't know how much room there is to join them.

Not going to happen anytime soon - it would involve re-locating the Fire Service with a brand new building, equidistant from most points of the airport due to the required response times (which is why it's where it is at the moment).

[SAM-EMA]

So, its not ruled out it is a possibility in the future if they become desperate.
But its not the best option really is it because the space is needed at the time when the apron is needed. i.e PAX night stoppers and cargo arr/deps

Thanks Chilli Monster
FROM SAM-EMA

[bmibaby.com]

Originally Posted by egnxema

BCN, LIS, MRS, NCE, MUC, LEI ? These will fit into either company's network.

Would love to see Barcelona return, I think it's a joke baby mentioned slots as the reason for giving up the EMABCN route, when the timings for the new BHX service are scheduled an hour later than our's. It was clearly because baby didn't fancy competing with Ryanair going onto GRO! No chance we'll get any French routes, WW don't want to compete with Ryanair directly and will want to protect their BHX routes. Lisbon would be nice, but I wonder how much market there is in the Midlands. Almeria would be great, but I think that's more a Ryanair market.

[almost professional]

not just the Fire station-levels are quite different between the two aprons, would take a lot of very expensive earth moving to fix! point is that access between them is pretty easy for vehicles so allows use for pax if bussed

[Lite]

I think an Almeria link three times a week would be very successful for Ryanair, the only competition since flybe's retreat in the Midlands are Monarch who I think operate the route at thrice weekly frequency, though given the number of people who are now buying properties along that part of the Spanish coast, a second airline for the midlands, or at least a link from EMA, would no doubt be well used. In the meantime, people wanting to go to Almeria could always fly into Malaga, Murcia or Granada and have a leisurely drive.

Barcelona would be fantastic to have back, EMA being one of the few airports with based low-cost operators not to have a link to this marvellous city, popular not only with tourists but also a business city.

Lisbon is a difficult route for low-cost airlines due to the cost of flying into there, as well as the limited slots. There is a decently sized Portuguese population however outside of London, though I think it's best for bmibaby to test the waters with 3 flights a week from BHX.

[UPS@EMA]

Is there any news on the potential route to Pakistan and India???? also when are we expecting the announcement from Baby for the new A/C - Routes etc if EMA or CWL get it.

Also i feel the airport is missing a trick with no Scandanavian routes from the airport. ARN, TMP/HEL, OSL/TRP, CPH

Regards

Stu

PS is there any chance of a weekly update inc pics of pier

[andy_13]

Hi,

Is there any chance Ryanair would add a route to Scandinavia? Something like EMA-NVO or EMA-TMP.

Also how come there is no interest from Middle Eastern carriers? EK for example fly to some smaller airports like BHX? Or Etihad, one of their A345s or B773ERs would be an awesome sight at EMA!! I doubt it will ever happen though.

Andy S

[UPS@EMA]

andy,

never a 777 or A345 from Etihad but poss a 767 or 2 class A332 4 times weekly would be very good. daily even better but who knows.

I could only see Ryanair starting Scandanavian routes unless we could start a bit of a Star mini hub (and i mean mini with SAS and bmi and LH) even tho that will neva happen with BHX supporting these airlines

Regards

Stu

[SAM-EMA]

With EMA have a potential of 7 FR aircraft. I've come up with a list of routes that could possibly use the 2 remaining a/c.
Santander, Reus, Riga, Poznan, Ancona, Kaunas, Kerry, Olso (Torp), Porto, Seville and Tampere.

Also I think these routes would be great, but i can't see them happening.
Dusseldorf (Weeze), Frankfurt (Hahn), Brussels (Charleroi), Paris (Beauvais) and Stockholm (Skavsta)

What do you guys think.
From SAM-EMA

[bmibaby.com]

Originally Posted by SAM-EMA

Santander, Reus, Riga, Poznan, Ancona, Kaunas, Kerry, Olso (Torp), Porto, Seville and Tampere.

Also I think these routes would be great, but i can't see them happening.
Dusseldorf (Weeze), Frankfurt (Hahn), Brussels (Charleroi), Paris (Beauvais) and Stockholm (Skavsta)

What do you guys think.
From SAM-EMA

Most of those routes look quite good. Except for Porto, whilst I agree that there is a market for Portuguese routes, I think it's too close to Santiago to make both routes viable and Ancona which is too close to Rimini. Whilst Beauvais is developing into quite the focus city, I think the competition on routes to Paris where these airlines are serving the main Parisian airports might put Ryanair off flying to such a distant market. Charleroi would be good, particularly with bmi regional's expensive BRU route, though I'm unaware of how relations currently are between CRL management and those at Ryanair.

[Charlie Roy]

Originally Posted by bmibaby.com

though I'm unaware of how relations currently are between CRL management and those at Ryanair.

Relations between CRL management and Ryanair are in excellent health
Ryanair are fierce eager to base at least 2 more aircraft at Charleroi except that the terminal isn't big enough. New bigger terminal set to open in the run of 2007, so expect 10 new routes for CRL at that stage.

However, EMA isn't on the wish list that I heard. FR will however relaunch CRL - LPL.

[andy_13]

Does anyone know what aircraft operates this route out of EMA tomorrow (01/12)?
AEU531 Gambia (Banjul) 09:00
I might take my camera down there tomorrow morning insted of going to uni!

Also is it possible to walk from the main terminal to the spot on the access road off the A453 on the right hand side of rwy 27? I know its a long way but is it possbile?

Andy S

[UPS@EMA]

Andy, AEU531 is operated by a 737-700,

with regards to the potential FR routes. they all look good. Porto and Ancona poss not but Riga and Vasteras or Skavsta instead would be good.

We need to get something sorted for a transatlantic route soon, this will be important for the region i feel.

Regards

Stu

[andy_13]

2600 miles in a 737!

If we managed to get a major long haul carrier do you think it would attrack more in the future as competition and/or codeshare partners? If EAM was then linked in to a major worldwide network like EKs, then surely it would attract more Europen and UK carriers as well to provide connections. This is why I mentioned Emirates and Etihad in one of my earlier threads, I mean its not likely someone like SQ or CX would come to EMA!

Andy S