STANSTED - 2

[LGWAlan]

According to the "info" concerning their flights on their own website, one will be the Air Tanker A332 and the other will be Hi-Fly

[LadyL2013]

It was a Saturday at about 9.30am, Canberra.

[wowzz]

9:30 am is not really peak time for STN. If you had been there 4 hours earlier you would have seen the real crowds prior to the post 6:00 am departures.

[FRatSTN]

New Danish start-up: Airnavia

New Danish start-up Airnavia to serve Aalborg using Danish Air Transport, 4x weekly starting 02/05/2016.

Mon, Wed, Fri
Dep. STN 09:30, Arr. AAL 12:00
Dep. AAL 07:00, Arr. STN 07:30

Sun
Dep. STN 17:00, Arr. AAL 19:30
Dep. AAL 14:30, Arr. STN 15:00

I've never come across this airline, hopefully it will last... or even take-off!

[LTNman]

Two hours on the ground at Stansted for a small prop. Not going to be a low cost operation is it.

[Expressflight]

It's an MD83 isn't it?

[Buster the Bear]

Virtual airline using DAT MD83s.

[GrahamK]

I thought DAT haad retired the MDs and were now using 320s?

[daz211]

New Airlines 2016

Article from Twitter

Stansted Airport is to sign a full-service airline in 2016, its owner said, as London's runway capacity squeeze pushes traditional carriers towards the British capital's third busiest hub and the UK home of budget operator Ryanair.

In London, traditional airlines such as British Airways have concentrated on the country's busiest airport Heathrow. But Heathrow is full, and awaiting permission to build a new runway which won't be ready until 2025 at the earliest.

Passenger demand for travel to and from London continues to rise, however, putting Stansted, primarily a base for low-cost and charter airlines, on track to announce a deal with a full-service or legacy carrier, according to its owner Manchester Airports Group (MAG).

MAG chief executive Charlie Cornish said that Stansted, about 40 miles (65 km) northeast of London, was in "deep discussions" with legacy airlines. "We are talking to a whole host of legacy carriers," he said in an interview on Thursday.

"I think as we hit 2016 we'll be able to confirm that we've secured some full-service carriers."

Cornish said he expected long-haul destinations to include Middle East hubs and U.S. cities, adding that legacy carriers were also interested in launching short-haul destinations from Stansted.

[Itchin McCrevis]

I think we can interpret this as "despite our best efforts we have nothing to announce - but we are really praying we will secure something in the next 12 months"

Don't they consider SAS to be a "full service" airline?

[pamann]

I'd cut MAG some slack. They've done an amazing job of getting Stansted's passenger figures growing again since they took over. They're also not ones for giving it all the talk if they don't have a trick up their sleeve. So let's watch and see what 2016 offers.

[LTNman]

So when Gatwick is also full then it will be Stansted's turn.

[Itchin McCrevis]

Gatwick is pretty much full for Summer 16 - quite a few short haul airlines/flights out on their ear recently looking for new homes as the spare slots have gone to the new long haul leisure ops.

The problem Stansted has is many are wary of the dominance and predatory nature of Ryanair.

[LTNman]

I can see IT flights feeling the pinch first at Gatwick and it would be these flights that would find a home at Stansted. Don't think many full service airlines would want to fly out of what is seen as a low cost airport that is too closely linked with Ryanair.

[Alsacienne]

They've done an amazing job of getting Stansted's passenger figures growing again since they took over

... but the lack of consideration for these passengers, through the creation of their 'shopping centre', lack of seats, uneven flooring and massive queues for outgoing security and border control incoming is second-to-none.

[wowzz]

Legacy airlines would want to ensure that the important business class customers [in terms of revenue] would be prepared to fly out of STN. Given how unpleasant an airport STN has become over the last few years, I cannot see many business pax being prepared to travel up the M11

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

quite a few short haul airlines/flights out on their ear recently looking for new homes as the spare slots have gone to the new long haul leisure ops.

Who are we referring to here? The likes of Small Planet perhaps? I know LGW had a fair amount of spare stand capacity outside the peaks and troughs of the based aircraft waves, has it really all been taken up?

[whitelighter]

I do love how any vaguely positive news on this thread sees the usual Luton fan boys en-mass telling anyone who will listen Stansted will never be more than a FR hub.


No doubt the opinion is anybody looking to fly into London should be queuing up to perch on the hill

[Itchin McCrevis]

Who are we referring to here? The likes of Small Planet perhaps?

No it's not just the minnows - some of the bigger fish are scratching their heads and hoping on the January slot return deadline.

any vaguely positive news on this thread sees the usual Luton fan boys en-mass telling anyone who will listen Stansted will never be more than a FR hub.

Huh! - what's this got to do with Luton?? - MAG put out a sound bite that contains no news at all and there is a general belief (unsubstantiated) amongst airlines that Ryanair are getting all their growth for free - hardly creating an attractive competitive environment (real or percieved) to rush into.

PS. Just looked at the CAA stats and realised Luton is, in fact, growing faster (in % terms) now than Stansted - so you can be excused for feeling paranoid.

[nt639]

Perhaps El Al will be tempted back. I would not be surprised.