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I would just dispute one of your points - in my view. LGW is a more attractive option than LHR due to the number of incoming LoCo flights.
The most attractive airport for those living in London may well be LHR, but for those of us not living within the M25 and needing a connecting flight to our final departure airport, LGW, AMS or FRA may be more suitable, given the number of incoming flights fromother European destinations.
The most attractive airport for those living in London may well be LHR, but for those of us not living within the M25 and needing a connecting flight to our final departure airport, LGW, AMS or FRA may be more suitable, given the number of incoming flights fromother European destinations.
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Air Asia X to stay at Stansted
Air Asia X have categorically stated they have no plans to move from Stansted; and whilst that may be airline bluff, I'm more inclined to believe the rumours are just Gatwick spin
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When asked if the airline would be sending the new 332s to Gatwick...
From the boss' Twitter earlier. Looks like they are stay at Stansted, but only because they can't get into Gatwick.
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wish we could, but we're barred from LGW by govt regulations
wish we could, but we're barred from LGW by govt regulations
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Skipness...Can you remind me of the dates American came and went with regards to Eos/MaxJet going under? Can't believe they got away with being allowed to come in, send the others under then runaway back to Heathrow! Thanks
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American were Winter 2007 through early Summer 2008 and then off they went around June I recall. They didn't even operate the full summer. Sorry I don't have the exact details to hand someone will be able to supply dates I'm sure.
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AA/ Maxjet/ EOS
Hi General_Kirby
American started their STN_JFK flights October 2007, they were due to launch a second daily flight in April 08 but that got delayed to August 08 but in the end never materialised.
MaxJet ceased on Christmas Eve 2007
EOS was beginning to ramp up their operations and announced additional frequencies and a new route to Dubai before they ceased ops in April 2008.
That left Silverjet as the only startup premium airline albeit at Luton.
American pulled it's Stansted services in July 2008. Although there was probably a good deal of truth in the reasons for them consolidating at LHR, namely that AA at the time was losing money, the approach at STN was to use their muscle to kill two startups.
Seems that the thought of STN having a well known carrier meant they were eager to have AA even though operating the same routes to New York (although EOS went to Newark). Somewhat coincidental that as soon as Max and EOS ceased, AA moved out. STN from 3 to 0.
AA's history with STN is pretty poor considering they had the route authorities for ORD but pulled that route in 1992/3 can't remember exactly but I did use that service even have a couple of route maps from the captain somewhere!
Shame sometimes that airports don't nurture startups a bit more or help protect their niche. Although AA was operating a 2 class service it had more capacity in a 767-300 and much deeper pockets to deflate prices..
Anyways hope that helped.
American started their STN_JFK flights October 2007, they were due to launch a second daily flight in April 08 but that got delayed to August 08 but in the end never materialised.
MaxJet ceased on Christmas Eve 2007
EOS was beginning to ramp up their operations and announced additional frequencies and a new route to Dubai before they ceased ops in April 2008.
That left Silverjet as the only startup premium airline albeit at Luton.
American pulled it's Stansted services in July 2008. Although there was probably a good deal of truth in the reasons for them consolidating at LHR, namely that AA at the time was losing money, the approach at STN was to use their muscle to kill two startups.
Seems that the thought of STN having a well known carrier meant they were eager to have AA even though operating the same routes to New York (although EOS went to Newark). Somewhat coincidental that as soon as Max and EOS ceased, AA moved out. STN from 3 to 0.
AA's history with STN is pretty poor considering they had the route authorities for ORD but pulled that route in 1992/3 can't remember exactly but I did use that service even have a couple of route maps from the captain somewhere!
Shame sometimes that airports don't nurture startups a bit more or help protect their niche. Although AA was operating a 2 class service it had more capacity in a 767-300 and much deeper pockets to deflate prices..
Anyways hope that helped.
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EZY are pulling the plug on STN-NCL, any news on who's going to fill their boots?
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BAA ordered to Sell STN
BBC News - BAA told by Competition Commission to sell two airports
Could this dawn a new era at STN. I am not expecting a new LGW but do you might think it might encourage L/H airlines to come to the airport?
CP BE
Could this dawn a new era at STN. I am not expecting a new LGW but do you might think it might encourage L/H airlines to come to the airport?
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Captinbirdseye,
A new dawn hopefully indeed.
As for long haul, really depends who takes the airport on I suppose as to what will change, whether the new operator has existing relationships with the right airlines etc. I wouldn't expect much in the way of long haul though, the USA is virtually out of the question. New York is the obvious destination and airlines seem reluctant to operate there away from LHR, even LGW is down to bare bones now on other routes. The most feasible that could be hoped for is Emirates or Etihad I guess, perhaps the odd niche player or start-up like United Airways at LGW. Personally, I'd just be happy with securing Air Asia.
What I think will happen is some escapees will return, such as Norwegian, Blue Air, maybe El Al. Anything else is anyone's guess.
A new dawn hopefully indeed.
As for long haul, really depends who takes the airport on I suppose as to what will change, whether the new operator has existing relationships with the right airlines etc. I wouldn't expect much in the way of long haul though, the USA is virtually out of the question. New York is the obvious destination and airlines seem reluctant to operate there away from LHR, even LGW is down to bare bones now on other routes. The most feasible that could be hoped for is Emirates or Etihad I guess, perhaps the odd niche player or start-up like United Airways at LGW. Personally, I'd just be happy with securing Air Asia.
What I think will happen is some escapees will return, such as Norwegian, Blue Air, maybe El Al. Anything else is anyone's guess.
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The most likely purchasers are a private equity company with an airport company providing the industry knowledge. The key to how well Stansted will perform is to understand who the airport company is and how good their commercial contacts are. Manchester Airport has to be in the running and therefore I suspect European Traffic will be the focus. Tommyc2005 has it correct in my opinion