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Anybody know the latest on the proposed move of the Police helicopter out of LTN. Wasn't this going to Henlow towards the end of October/early November, or has this now been postponed due to the airport's delay in finalising their Masterplan.
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Anybody know the latest on the proposed move of the Police helicopter out of LTN?
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Flew threw Luton in the last two days - first time since Feb, that I have. Came away slightly fuming.
Was annoyed at the Short Term Car Park situation - really needs to be improved: if its 10 minutes free parking, by the time you wind your way round the hellish design, find a trolley, unload, etc, and attempt to leave you're pushing that 10 minutes. As mentioned above, something really needs to be done about the walking routes to the airport.
Was annoyed once I got into Duty Free, that the quality/selection is so poor compared with somewhere like Edinburgh. Minor point, but needs improving.
What really got my goat and p*ssed me off, was the fact that the Security Staff were not doing their job. Big signs up saying that coats, laptops and shoes need to be removed to be screen separately - not a problem. However when approaching the machines, there is not enough room to successfully take a laptop bag, remove laptop, stow items separately, remove jacket, and then remove shoes. The woman putting items in the scanner had a go at me, because I hadn't removed my shoes - well I couldn't with laptop, laptop bag and suit jacket in my hand! But what was worse, was that they were not scanning all passengers shoes! What's the point of a big sign saying they will be scanned if its not enforced.
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Was annoyed at the Short Term Car Park situation - really needs to be improved: if its 10 minutes free parking, by the time you wind your way round the hellish design, find a trolley, unload, etc, and attempt to leave you're pushing that 10 minutes. As mentioned above, something really needs to be done about the walking routes to the airport.
Was annoyed once I got into Duty Free, that the quality/selection is so poor compared with somewhere like Edinburgh. Minor point, but needs improving.
What really got my goat and p*ssed me off, was the fact that the Security Staff were not doing their job. Big signs up saying that coats, laptops and shoes need to be removed to be screen separately - not a problem. However when approaching the machines, there is not enough room to successfully take a laptop bag, remove laptop, stow items separately, remove jacket, and then remove shoes. The woman putting items in the scanner had a go at me, because I hadn't removed my shoes - well I couldn't with laptop, laptop bag and suit jacket in my hand! But what was worse, was that they were not scanning all passengers shoes! What's the point of a big sign saying they will be scanned if its not enforced.
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Well I am going to rant about the parking.
Came back to Luton on a sunday evening a couple of weeks ago, The person giving me a lift home pulls into the drop off/short term parking area. I get in and we try to leave within the 10 minute period. By the time we got past the other people who were being picked up/dropped off and joined the queue at the barrier, it was 20 minutes and they charged us. Who ever came up with the idea that 10 minutes is long enough, either does not live in the real world or is deliberately trying to raise revenue.
For anyone to say Joe Public can have no complaints shows nothing but contempt for the customers that Luton desperately needs to attract.
Came back to Luton on a sunday evening a couple of weeks ago, The person giving me a lift home pulls into the drop off/short term parking area. I get in and we try to leave within the 10 minute period. By the time we got past the other people who were being picked up/dropped off and joined the queue at the barrier, it was 20 minutes and they charged us. Who ever came up with the idea that 10 minutes is long enough, either does not live in the real world or is deliberately trying to raise revenue.
For anyone to say Joe Public can have no complaints shows nothing but contempt for the customers that Luton desperately needs to attract.
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I think the runway is due for another spell of nighttime closures starting on October 1st.
It’s getting somewhat depressing to see that passengers experience, and come to that, my experience of getting to and from the airport each day has become so bad. Any member of staff heading for the staff car park by Harrods for a 6am start is now faced with a continuous queue of traffic that can start by the bridge on the A505 dual carriageway by Capability Green due to the morning rush of passengers. Traffic that is not even going to the airport is now caught up in the queue for the short term car park. So with the queue extending to around 2 miles at peak times is this the longest queue in the UK for an airport car park?
I wonder how many owners of executive jets are seeking other airports to operate into now that Harrods has become a no go area for parts of the day.
Adding to my depression are the roadworks on the M1 that has made the road a 24/7 nightmare and the Airport Way roadworks just adds to the misery.
Anyone got any good news about the airport as even the posts here seem to have dried up.
It’s getting somewhat depressing to see that passengers experience, and come to that, my experience of getting to and from the airport each day has become so bad. Any member of staff heading for the staff car park by Harrods for a 6am start is now faced with a continuous queue of traffic that can start by the bridge on the A505 dual carriageway by Capability Green due to the morning rush of passengers. Traffic that is not even going to the airport is now caught up in the queue for the short term car park. So with the queue extending to around 2 miles at peak times is this the longest queue in the UK for an airport car park?
I wonder how many owners of executive jets are seeking other airports to operate into now that Harrods has become a no go area for parts of the day.
Adding to my depression are the roadworks on the M1 that has made the road a 24/7 nightmare and the Airport Way roadworks just adds to the misery.
Anyone got any good news about the airport as even the posts here seem to have dried up.
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The queues can be attributed to a new B & Q recently opened opposite the tinminal!
Impressive eh!
Impressive eh!
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Easyjet must have jumped for joy when they worked out that they could write one 20ft letter of the word easyjet on each of the 7 roof panels as well as the 7 hangar doors.
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Silverjet, a new all-business-class airline set to launch services between Luton and Newark later this year, says it is considering setting up its own dedicated terminal at Luton Airport to make the journey through the airport more agreeable.
The airline had been looking at using Luton’s private jet terminal but head of UK sales Tim Buckman says that the costs of using it mean that setting up its own dedicated terminal may prove cheaper in the long term.
Silverjet is currently having two Boeing 767-200s refitted with 100 flat-bed seats made by manufacturer Sicma. The seats will be 75 inches long and have a seat pitch of 60 inches. Chief executive Lawrence Hunt says that average fares on the route will be £999 and that a check-in time of 30 minutes will be “industry beating”. Services are expected to start in December.
The airline had been looking at using Luton’s private jet terminal but head of UK sales Tim Buckman says that the costs of using it mean that setting up its own dedicated terminal may prove cheaper in the long term.
Silverjet is currently having two Boeing 767-200s refitted with 100 flat-bed seats made by manufacturer Sicma. The seats will be 75 inches long and have a seat pitch of 60 inches. Chief executive Lawrence Hunt says that average fares on the route will be £999 and that a check-in time of 30 minutes will be “industry beating”. Services are expected to start in December.
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Extension of the cargo apron will afford a number of extra wide body stands.
Silverjet passengers will check in via Harrods and will not enter the tinminal if these plans are accepted by all the authorities.
Nightly runway closure from October. Full Cat 3 capable outside the closure periods.
Silverjet passengers will check in via Harrods and will not enter the tinminal if these plans are accepted by all the authorities.
Nightly runway closure from October. Full Cat 3 capable outside the closure periods.
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New airport minutes 4th on the list at http://www.llacc.com/CurrentMeeting.asp
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A letter taken from a local newspaper gives an insight to the pathetic nature of a noise complainer, I am still laughing hours since I read it:
I have lived in my house for 11 years, and for the first 9 years the planes from Luton Airport never bothered me. But two years ago, jets started to fly very low over my house - so low, it was obvious they were on an approach for landing.
I couldn't understand it - before planes change flight paths, shouldn't there be some sort of regulation that needs changing?
They didn't even tell local residents of the flightpath changes.
The people at Luton Airport think that they can do anything they like and they have no respect for their feelings.
Thats why I don't want the airport to expand.
Mr T Bracklesham Gardens, Stopsley.
If this is the basis of the 'Anti-Luton' brigade, Luton airport management need to be very concerned. I could alleviate their crisis by sending the senior management team a few free incontinence pads! Might come in useful?
I have lived in my house for 11 years, and for the first 9 years the planes from Luton Airport never bothered me. But two years ago, jets started to fly very low over my house - so low, it was obvious they were on an approach for landing.
I couldn't understand it - before planes change flight paths, shouldn't there be some sort of regulation that needs changing?
They didn't even tell local residents of the flightpath changes.
The people at Luton Airport think that they can do anything they like and they have no respect for their feelings.
Thats why I don't want the airport to expand.
Mr T Bracklesham Gardens, Stopsley.
If this is the basis of the 'Anti-Luton' brigade, Luton airport management need to be very concerned. I could alleviate their crisis by sending the senior management team a few free incontinence pads! Might come in useful?
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Hi Buster
I don't understand why you find this letter so risible. This gentleman obviously perceives an increase in noise and is, in quite a reasonable manner, writing to his local paper about it. If the flightpaths/landing levels have indeed changed he has a fair point. If they haven't it's probably due to the increased frequency of the flights, in which case it is his right to object to future expansion. Or maybe I'm missing the point of your letter which perhaps implies that Luton Airport will just laugh at any objectors anyway. Please explain!
I don't understand why you find this letter so risible. This gentleman obviously perceives an increase in noise and is, in quite a reasonable manner, writing to his local paper about it. If the flightpaths/landing levels have indeed changed he has a fair point. If they haven't it's probably due to the increased frequency of the flights, in which case it is his right to object to future expansion. Or maybe I'm missing the point of your letter which perhaps implies that Luton Airport will just laugh at any objectors anyway. Please explain!
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A letter taken from a local newspaper gives an insight to the pathetic nature of a noise complainer, I am still laughing hours since I read it:
I have lived in my house for 11 years, and for the first 9 years the planes from Luton Airport never bothered me. But two years ago, jets started to fly very low over my house - so low, it was obvious they were on an approach for landing.
I couldn't understand it - before planes change flight paths, shouldn't there be some sort of regulation that needs changing?
They didn't even tell local residents of the flightpath changes.
The people at Luton Airport think that they can do anything they like and they have no respect for their feelings.
Thats why I don't want the airport to expand.
Mr T Bracklesham Gardens, Stopsley.
If this is the basis of the 'Anti-Luton' brigade, Luton airport management need to be very concerned. I could alleviate their crisis by sending the senior management team a few free incontinence pads! Might come in useful?
I have lived in my house for 11 years, and for the first 9 years the planes from Luton Airport never bothered me. But two years ago, jets started to fly very low over my house - so low, it was obvious they were on an approach for landing.
I couldn't understand it - before planes change flight paths, shouldn't there be some sort of regulation that needs changing?
They didn't even tell local residents of the flightpath changes.
The people at Luton Airport think that they can do anything they like and they have no respect for their feelings.
Thats why I don't want the airport to expand.
Mr T Bracklesham Gardens, Stopsley.
If this is the basis of the 'Anti-Luton' brigade, Luton airport management need to be very concerned. I could alleviate their crisis by sending the senior management team a few free incontinence pads! Might come in useful?
The best letter came from an idiot living in Caddington who wrote that he moved to the area 4 years ago and then went on to complain about aircraft noise. One has to ask if he doesn’t like aircraft noise then why move to a house under the flight path.
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I have lived in my house for 11 years, and for the first 9 years the planes from Luton Airport never bothered me. But two years ago, jets started to fly very low over my house...
One has to ask if he doesn’t like aircraft noise then why move to a house under the flight path.
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Thus Luton isn't alone, neither is aviation (e.g. look at the opposition to the 'new' Channel Tunnel high-speed rail line from Ashford. In France, there were objections because it didn't pass through a particular locality...)
The only people who should be listened to and whose opinions should be taken seriously are the NOPEs* (the only true 'greens') who neither travel by air nor consume or purchase air-freighted products. The rest of them are merely a bunch of subjective two-faced NIMBYs whose opinions wouldn't be worth a can of beans if it wasn't for the power of the ballot box.
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Anyone buying a house near an airport has to consider
- The airport will get busier
- Operation and opening times will change
- Flightpaths will change
- New terminals and runways will be built
- Local and regional traffic conditions will not stay the same forever