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Old 7th Oct 2006, 10:49
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As per LTN website....

London Luton Airport Operations Ltd.(LLAOL), published its draft Master Plan in October 2005. Since then LLAOL has been considering the consultation responses received with a view to producing a final Master Plan which meets the objectives of LLAOL, London Luton Airport Ltd. (LLAL - the freeholder), and the UK Government in the most sustainable way possible.

In parallel, LLAOL and LLAL are in ongoing commercial and technical dialogue which will take some time to conclude.

It remains the intention, if possible, to publish the final Master Plan in time to inform the Government's review of the White Paper, expected later this year.

The second paragraph says it all really- sometime whenever.

New routes seem very thin on the ground when compared to the rash of announcements for other airports recently. What new ones have come about are mainly as a result of other routes closing. Anybody heard anything or is Silverjet going to be it, assuming everything goes to plan.

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Grrr

Final Masterplan, that is the one I meant.
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Trains Thameslink

An update on previous questions and answers about Luton train services serving the airport.

My moles advise me that the Thameslink operation of First Capital Connect is expecting to have all 86 class 319 units under its control for Thameslink trains by December 2007 at the latest. (I won't bore this forum with how this is going to be achieved other than its quite a complex cascade of trains with other operators.) There has is as yet no public announcement on this subject.

It means an uplift of about 12-13 units on top of the fleet already used by FCC/TL and *should* mean several more - including all peak hour trains - to be eight coaches.

As far as I am aware there are no other siginificant fleet or service changes in the near future. The 319s appearing in First corporate laser effect colours are little more than cosmetic jobs.

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An update on previous questions and answers about Luton train services serving the airport.
Around 30 minutes travelling time from London to Parkway and then around 30 minutes to travel the last mile from Parkway to the airport when the traffic is bad.
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Old 8th Oct 2006, 17:09
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Indeed.

But I don't think even more trains will fix that one.

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Under the terms of the franchise awarded to FCC, no new rolling stock will have to be purchased during this period.
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That! Is enough on trains thank you. If you want to expand on the subject put it on a train spotters site. This one is strictly aviation.


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Originally Posted by PPRuNe Pop
That! Is enough on trains thank you. If you want to expand on the subject put it on a train spotters site. This one is strictly aviation.
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Sorry Mod, but we are all bored, as any sort of aviation news is thin on the ground at LTN the over the past few weeks. Apart from Silverjet there seems to be nothing on the horizon to talk about either. This probably has more to do with the fact that Luton is now operating to capacity with no new building work planned in the near future.
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That sums up the situation at LTN in a nutshell. Perhaps, in the short term, until our spanish friends have decided on a Final Masterplan for the airport, and the direction they intend to go, they should actively be seeking out new routes from non-based airlines like Wizz have done. Wizz brings not far short of 1m pax/year now, into/out of LTN, whilst not basing a single aircraft there.

Admitedly this is not easy for several reasons as we all know, such as the current facilities, layout, road infrastructure etc and of course STN. In reality,though, I can't see the situation improving anytime soon and much business will be lost as a result, with Luton Borough Council carrying a huge chunk of the responsibility for this.
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Originally Posted by PPRuNe Pop
That! Is enough on trains thank you. If you want to expand on the subject put it on a train spotters site. This one is strictly aviation.
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OK, apologies, I had assumed that a brief comment about LTN rail service to the very station that bears Luton Airports name was as of much interest as road traffic jams, motorway junctions, shuttle buses and car parking. All share the task of conveying LTNs customers to/from LTN.

No more comment from me then,

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Old 9th Oct 2006, 11:21
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Night Closure NOTAM

I see that CAP493's predictions were proved correct and that there was no night closures during the early hours of yesterday (Sunday) and today.

I've just checked the NATS website and the original NOTAM is still there and is now proven to be incorrect. The additional inaccuracies relating to hours of closing once local time = UTC also remain uncorrected.

Who writes the NOTAMS for Luton - ATC or the airport authority?
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 11:47
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Grrr

I can't imagine ATC making a 'cock up' like that, so I guess it must be the Airport Authority!
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 12:57
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Wizz flights between Luton & Katowice increase to 14 x weekly for S07, an increase of 2 on S06. Three further new routes for S07 are due ex LTN, resulting in some 1.15m annual pax for the airport from Wizz serving 14(currently 11) destinations.
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 19:32
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Nice to hear positive chat about Wizz, but they have cancelled several flights to their new destinations this year. Have they got all these destinations right?
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With speculation of RYR announcing the MAD base tomorrow, do you think the London route will be to LTN or STN, If there is to be a London route.
STN has no flights to MAD so would be a good choice, however do you think they will go for LTN and try and push EZY out of the MAD route.
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 19:57
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A few months ago I read that Ryanair's negotiations with MAD were all going swimmingly, except for one contentious point. That was: that Ryanair could not get the slots it desired for MAD - STN.

I suppose we'll find out tomorrow whether Ryanair got their way in the end or not. My guess is: MAD - STN 3xdaily, Ryanair got their way
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 20:09
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i'd go along with charlie's theory...MAD will be a huge route at least 2xdaily.they'll want to have that availablr from their main hub. Although this time last week I never would have assumed they would want to buy AerLingus!
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Old 10th Oct 2006, 04:18
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Had a quick look at teletext at around 23:30, it was showing one arrival with an ETA of 00:15. Is Luton being a bit more flexible with phase 2 as this phase seems to be concentrating on drainage work which I assume is off runway?
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Old 10th Oct 2006, 07:56
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LTNman - no. Neither of the two late running Ryanair flights arrived at Luton.
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Old 10th Oct 2006, 08:04
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FR4153 ex BGY and FR3607 ex VST (diverted to STN), I think thats why this mornings LTN-DUB was canx and I would think thats why LDY-STN was diverted to LTN so they didnt have to canx another flight.
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