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Old 6th Feb 2007, 12:13
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Today the CAA published notices showing that Atlantic Airlines has been granted permission to operate Cargo services on the Guernsey - Bournemouth and Guernsey Coventry routes.
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Old 6th Feb 2007, 14:10
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These licences always take a long time as they have been operating the route for weeks now.

As the saying goes better late than never.
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Old 21st Feb 2007, 17:19
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It now seems that Guernsey will retain its Norwich flights this summer. The Flybe Jersey timetable shows the Norwich flight routing via Guernsey on the return service on days Su,M,W,F.

Flights are not available to book yet, but it is indicated that the Jersey flight makes a stop in Guernsey.
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 19:42
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Flybe have announced plans to operate GCI-MAN in competition with Aurigny. I believe that they were awarded the licence for this route some years ago when Auringy were granted the GCI-SOU route alongside the then British European (now Flybe). A gentlemens (!) agreement was reached between them & they both agreed not to step on each others toes.....

Now that BE have decided to get on the GCI-MAN route will Aurigny go for the SOU? And if they do how will that affect Blue Islands whose application for GCI-SOU still has to be heard, will they just cut & run - I would!

Better route for Blue would be to London City. You could fill 30 seats each way twice daily at decent (not cheap) fares & also pinch some traffic from the LGW carriers.
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 21:22
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When is Blue Islands’ Southampton application going to be heard? The application is really being dragged out and has obviously hindered Blue Islands’ expansion plans.

Interestingly, there is now a survey on the Blue Islands website asking which routes customers would like them to operate. I notice that London City is amongst the listed destinations.

With regards to Manchester, I don’t see how Aurigny can object to competition. Remember their attempts in 2004 to compete between Jersey, Manchester and Bristol? It says a lot really.
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 21:42
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BCI and LCY

I did hear something a month or so ago about an ATR42 to operate the Southampton if this is correct the ATR42 is cleared to operate into the City so who knows.

We will have to wait but some of the jig saw could be comming together?
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Old 14th Mar 2007, 00:30
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I see Zurich is up on there site from this poll could a J31 fly that far and would they use one to fly LCY-GCI?

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Well Manston Airport.

Two things to answer here I think the Zurich is rarther a longish one for the Jetstream around two hours or so and after all it is a commuter aircraft of sectors a little shorter I think.

They might be thinking of adding another aircraft to the fleet which could do these long sectors.

We will have to wait and see what is round the corner on that one or to come out of the Blue Hangar

The London City one is interesting, is the Jetstream cleared into the City for starters?
Not easy to get the slots needed to operated the service requried like early morning and late afternoon or early evening.

Looks like an Non Op to me but don,t quote
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Old 14th Mar 2007, 23:42
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Now that BE have decided to get on the GCI-MAN route will Aurigny go for the SOU? And if they do how will that affect Blue Islands whose application for GCI-SOU still has to be heard, will they just cut & run - I would!
Hello,

Well I think that Aurigny Air Services will eventually be merged into BlueIslands...
The fact that Flybe is going to open the GCI-MAN is obviously not good at all for Aurigny Air Services. The problem wit Aurigny is the management. staff are not productive at all. Most of my F/Os have a reasonable salary but they fly only 40 hours a month, whereas they should at least fly twice more... (Aer Arann F/Os, Flybe F/Os fly about 80hrs/month). On the other hand, we are not enough captains.
No toilets in our ATRs, and nobody in the management care about it, but my passengers always complain about that...
No music displayed in our cabin.
Tickets are more expensive than flybe.
Q400 is faster than the ATR72.
Flybe is now the biggest european regional airline, Aurigny is not planning to open more new routes...
I don't know about Southampton really. I think we should fly there from GCI and JER, but I am not the chairman

So long !
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 10:53
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Hello Aurigny CAPTAIN Thats a shame about management not caring if there ATR have no toilets or music they where once a good airline. I think Aurigny will disappear if they dont start acting now

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Old 15th Mar 2007, 15:56
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Have 'the management' looked at the possibilities for a SEN-GCI service?

After all, they have a SEN-based crew operating the Air Wales ATR-42 so I would have thought the operating costs would be limited.
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 21:52
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I think a merger of Aurigny with Blue Islands would be bad news for Guernsey. A bit of competition is a good thing. Look what happened to the Jersey-Alderney route. Aurigny were operating a once daily service and then Blue Islands came along promising the reinstatement of the twice daily service. What are we left with now? - 5 flights operated by Blue Islands a week with no direct flights available on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. There are many things I like about Blue Islands but I would not like to see them have a monopoly on inter island flights. As for the Guernsey-UK routes, I know of many people who choose to fly Aurigny rather than Flybe. I generally find that Aurigny flights work out cheaper. The baggage charges have not helped Flybe's image locally. I also like Aurigny's policy of trying to operate delayed flights caused by bad weather rather than cancelling. Having said all that, I do like the Flybe Q400s. In summary, I think there is a place for all 3 three airlines.
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 23:39
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Have 'the management' looked at the possibilities for a SEN-GCI service?
no way
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 23:42
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Having said all that, I do like the Flybe Q400s. In summary, I think there is a place for all 3 three airlines.
next summer, there will be 4 GCI-MAN per day
3 GR and 1 BE

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Old 16th Mar 2007, 08:17
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I don't see why you should be quite so dismissive of a SEN/GCI service.

Flybe operate a very successful SEN/JER route, there is no reason why
GCI shouldn't do well providing it was marketed properly.

After all with visitor figures dropping year on year to the islands I would
have thought anything that promoted tourism could only be beneficial.

Especially to Aurigny which seems to be struggling at the moment.
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Old 16th Mar 2007, 08:28
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Aurigny Captain

Sorry to make you feel ill at the prospect of a SEN-GCI service, but as a summer weekend route I would have thought it had possibilities.

I 'm sure many leisure travellers would welcome a simpler alternative to the Stansted and Gatwick hassles of parking, security check and a long walk to the gate. SEN also has its own large catchment area with a long tradition of holidaying in the Channel Islands.
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Old 16th Mar 2007, 09:10
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Alderney - Lydd please given the ILS now at Lydd.Did it yesterday in a single and was impressed how the Island had come on ,its now got a first class hotel.I,m happy to fly myself there single engine over water but unwilling to expose my family to that risk.A route I would definitely patronise but I,m unwilling to have the hassle that major airports like Southampton and Bournemouth represent.Will be using the Shoreham route in May and lydd would be even better.
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Old 16th Mar 2007, 11:50
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Flights between Jersey and Southend averaged an 89% load factor last summer. It is an established leisure route that I am sure Guernsey could support. However, I doubt the route is a priority considering the Island’s attempts to secure other high-profile routes from the UK and Europe.

Looking at how Guernsey is attempting to encourage new air-links, I hope that Aurigny play a part in any growth. It seems absurd that Guernsey cannot rely on their state-owned airline to fulfil its tourism needs. Granted, any new routes will need financial support from authorities, however, there are gaps in Guernsey’s market which Aurigny is best positioned to serve in the Island’s interests.

Interestingly, I saw on the news that Blue Islands was in talks with bmi to create a code-share agreement for Guernsey passengers on the Jersey-Heathrow route. Whilst there will be difficulties in launching such an agreement, it further demonstrates the innovation and quality that Blue Islands have brought to the C.I. market.
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Old 16th Mar 2007, 13:48
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Originally Posted by Aurigny Captain
Tickets are more expensive than flybe.
Well, each time this SLF checks Aurigny are consistently cheaper than flybe - 2/3 times a month - I haven't flown flybe in nearly a year GCI-LGW, as I buy & fly the cheaper (and if there's fog, the first one in & out)....and last time I checked (Monday) the ATRs do have toilets - just no running water in the wash basins.....Is the rock getting to you?
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Old 16th Mar 2007, 21:45
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the ATRs do have toilets - just no running water in the wash basins.....Is the rock getting to you?
Well first of all, I probably know better Aurigny's ATRs than you just because I am a captain on the ATR 72.
Then, yes, we do have toilets, but they are not servisable ! (on the DA and DB). There is no flush and it smells like **** inside. It is very bad and I am always complaining to the direction about that.
As a captain, I am responsible of my First officer, my 2 cabin crews, and my passengers. I am the number 1 on board. I am the one who have the last word on board.
Hence, I find it quite embarrassing to take off with this problem. May I remind you that a GCI-MAN flight takes approximately 1 hour and 20 minutes. I feel very ashamed when my passengers, or my cabin crews or my F/O have to go to the toilets.


Anyways, The directions will eventually recognise that I am right, and they will solve this problem.

Appart from that, Aurigny is a good company.


So long !
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