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I can't find any reference to rezoning in England on the web.
Scotland yes, USA yes.
The only English information I have found relates to water supplies.
Please can you direct me to the correct site?
Scotland yes, USA yes.
The only English information I have found relates to water supplies.
Please can you direct me to the correct site?
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Hi EUAir. I'd be delighted to see the information about rezoning that deedave has asked you to post. Whilst you're at it, perhaps you could update us with the current status of the radar; you know, the one that wasn't working in May because of a thunderstorm. Has it been up and running since then?
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Hi EUAir. I'd be delighted to see the information about rezoning that deedave has asked you to post. Whilst you're at it, perhaps you could update us with the current status of the radar; you know, the one that wasn't working in May because of a thunderstorm. Has it been up and running since then?
As it says on the NOTAM, RADAR U/S. and it was a lightning strike that
did the damage.
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Still no Radar at Manston, although I was amused to hear over the radio the other day:
"I understand from your ATIS that the Radar is unservicable, so could I have a Radar information service instead?"
We do now have runway edge and taxiway lights, though. Which is nice...
"I understand from your ATIS that the Radar is unservicable, so could I have a Radar information service instead?"
We do now have runway edge and taxiway lights, though. Which is nice...
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Catflaps- I cannot post about a radar that I know nothing about as I do not work at MSE, which I have stated previously!! Its not stoping aircraft from landing though I notice! I have worked with a number of different airports over my time and there is always something or another that is not operating efficently!
On the point of rezoning- I realise that my previous post may look like I was pointing that London had rezoning done- I apologise it was badly written, I did point out that rezoning had been done in the UK, What I was trying to point out about London was that there is exceptional population growth, and as DeeDave pointed out in Scotland, so if it is being done in the UK why can't it be done in England?, But forgive me if I am wrong hadn't Prescott alllowed former Green Field sites in the Uk be built on?!! But rezoning is common place in Ireland in the counties of Meath, Kildare and Wicklow especially.
On the point of rezoning- I realise that my previous post may look like I was pointing that London had rezoning done- I apologise it was badly written, I did point out that rezoning had been done in the UK, What I was trying to point out about London was that there is exceptional population growth, and as DeeDave pointed out in Scotland, so if it is being done in the UK why can't it be done in England?, But forgive me if I am wrong hadn't Prescott alllowed former Green Field sites in the Uk be built on?!! But rezoning is common place in Ireland in the counties of Meath, Kildare and Wicklow especially.
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IMHO when the time comes for MSE to close, I don't reckon Wesminster will be involved with new planning issues - I think it will be handled locally.
Radar -
Er - I know this probably sound thick to you aviation types, but I thought the whole purpose of ATC was to look at the radar and then tell the pilots where to fly.
I would genuinely like to know how ATC functions without radar.
Anybody??
Radar -
Er - I know this probably sound thick to you aviation types, but I thought the whole purpose of ATC was to look at the radar and then tell the pilots where to fly.
I would genuinely like to know how ATC functions without radar.
Anybody??
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Pilots fly towards the NDB, and then use the ILS. If not, they can always use the old fashioned (god forbid...) visual method!!
In terms of GA, all local flights are booked out with ATC beforehand, including information as to the area they will be flying, and up to what level. A flight information service is then provided to all aircraft flying in that vicinity, telling them to keep their eyes open!
In terms of GA, all local flights are booked out with ATC beforehand, including information as to the area they will be flying, and up to what level. A flight information service is then provided to all aircraft flying in that vicinity, telling them to keep their eyes open!
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Er - I know this probably sound thick to you aviation types, but I thought the whole purpose of ATC was to look at the radar and then tell the pilots where to fly.
I would genuinely like to know how ATC functions without radar.
I would genuinely like to know how ATC functions without radar.
NATS (apart from Aberdeen I believe) no longer use this as they have the staff and radar reliability (i.e mulitiple feeds to support)
You will find quite a few non-NATS airfields still using it Lydd, Manston, St Mary's, Cranfield, Oxford and Shoreham to name a few . Places such as Southend and Bournemouth and Blackpool will use it a night when Radar is not available.
Its considered a 'Black art' as less an less controllers rated to use it with equipment reliability improving.
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A couple of years ago, there were reports in our local rag that the Guild of ATC's had described the risk of mid-air collision at Manston as "unacceptably high".
The worrying thing is, this was when the radar WAS working.
Bl**dy Hell!!!
The worrying thing is, this was when the radar WAS working.
Bl**dy Hell!!!
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A local rag blowing things out of proportion.......Never. As was said before, there has been no RADAR possibly since May (but lets face it its not been on properly for longer than that). Your local rag wrote 2 years ago of high risk of mid air. How many have there been??? Based also on the fairly high number of 'Puddle Jumpers' that cross that airspace en-route to LFAT or EBBR I think that proves a point.
Besides, if you have ever tried to fly close to MH when they have a movement
, they normally clear the skies within a 20 mile radius!!!!!!!!
Besides, if you have ever tried to fly close to MH when they have a movement
, they normally clear the skies within a 20 mile radius!!!!!!!!
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The airport owner are spending money investing in the airports infrastructure.(I thing this is over 1m)
I notice that in addition to the MK flights
DAS now load freight at Manston, Eygpt Air also fly in freight. With the festive season not far away we should see a lot more freight movements.
A Vega Airlines An was on a stand Tue ( Bulgarian cargo charter aviation company).
What the Nomads aircraft ?
I notice that in addition to the MK flights
DAS now load freight at Manston, Eygpt Air also fly in freight. With the festive season not far away we should see a lot more freight movements.
A Vega Airlines An was on a stand Tue ( Bulgarian cargo charter aviation company).
What the Nomads aircraft ?
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Mk 3 times a week
Egypt 2 times a week
Das ad hoc at the moment, but hopefuly once a day
Nomads is an ad hoc charter.
All are talking about increasing flights in the autumn.
Mk 3 times a week
Egypt 2 times a week
Das ad hoc at the moment, but hopefuly once a day
Nomads is an ad hoc charter.
All are talking about increasing flights in the autumn.