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Old 16th Oct 2006, 21:27
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And there was a Passager flight by my favorite airline EAF

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How can EAF be anyones favorite airline, do they still fly 737-200's and
1-11's, they sometimes filled in for RYR at STN a few years back and they looked rought then.
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Old 16th Oct 2006, 21:51
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Have to agree with you there daz211, when it came in the other day, thought it was a kick back to the seventies.
The engines are tiny compared to modern 738's and the ground crew couldn't even find a ground pin to fit !!
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Originally Posted by daz211
How can EAF be anyones favorite airline, do they still fly 737-200's and
1-11's, they sometimes filled in for RYR at STN a few years back and they looked rought then.

Any airline can be someones favorite I.e Cargo ,Charter, LCC no there 1-11 went back in 2002 due some cr*ppy EU law. The Old girl you saw blazing_air AH is there oldest 737 200 but still in very good flying condtion.

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Old 18th Oct 2006, 14:10
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Infratil's September report.
Kent International handled over 2 million kilos of freight in September, the highest amount since acquisition. The 2,052,000kg compares favourably with August's 1,959,082kg, which was also a record. Most of the freight was carried on scheduled services by MK Airlines and Egypt Air, with the throughput of both carriers increasing.
No mention of the Kent Escape holidays...
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Old 18th Oct 2006, 16:00
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CAA website shows the following pax in August, which had 10 flights, so divide by 10 for mean pax load.
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Barcelona 220
Faro 1047
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"Kent International handled over 2 million kilos of freight in September"

Most proper airports measure their throughput in tonnes. 2 million kilos equates to 2000 tonnes. If you can get 100 tonnes on a 747, this equates to 20 plane-loads. Presumably, the planes come in full of one thing and go out full of something else. I make that 10 in and 10 out. "30 days hath September." - I make that one plane every three days.

What does the guy who unloads them by hand do on the other two days? With throughput like that you don't just need someone to scare birds off the runways.....you need someone to clear their nests away as well. Let's hear it for the guano-man.
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 08:55
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Manston Cargo

Reading the last post.
How do you get 100 tonns of soft fruit and Veg into a 747
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 09:49
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very carefully..............

At least the figures are going in the right direction and that should continue on the run up to Christmas.

DTUP
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 11:03
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Not surprisingly, I consider myself an MSE pessemist these days.
However I confess, I did expect that with such a low capacity on offer, demand for Faro would exceed supply in August.
I am surprised it didn't.
Even when being conciously pessimistic about MSE, I end up being a naive optimist!
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 11:07
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Originally Posted by Herne Bay
Reading the last post.
How do you get 100 tonns of soft fruit and Veg into a 747
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Cargo aircraft are configured to carry large aircraft pallets or Unit Load Devices (ULD'S). This will normally take up all of the main deck, where you would normally be seated in a passenger a/c and also the front and rear belly holds.
100 tonnes is a normal load for a/c such as the 747 - 200 and 300 series that you see coming in and out of manston.
They will be built from floor to ceiling to fit the contour of the aircraft, so no space is wasted.
The presumption that catflaps makes is not strictly true in that up until recently mk have brought loads in, but ferried out, but in the last couple of weeks they have picked up more business and at least one flight a week goes back out with a load.
Hope this answers your question
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OK, I'm not the brightest bloke in the world, and there has been a lot of conflicting information.

Please will an (intelligent) person confirm.

Are DAS air cargo banned from flying in and out of Manston or not?
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 11:36
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Originally Posted by deedave
OK, I'm not the brightest bloke in the world, and there has been a lot of conflicting information.

Please will an (intelligent) person confirm.

Are DAS air cargo banned from flying in and out of Manston or not?
DAS Air are using two Gemini DC-10 aircraft in Europe and the remaining DAS fleet are flying in Africa until the ban is lifted.

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Old 19th Oct 2006, 12:02
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Are the DC-10's part of DAS regular fleet or are they using another carrier?
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 16:02
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Originally Posted by deedave
Are the DC-10's part of DAS regular fleet or are they using another carrier?

No they are not part off teh Das fleet the airline is called Gemini Air Cargo

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Old 23rd Oct 2006, 22:19
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Saw this on another board:

"Did anyone read the interview with one of their managers talking about the potential of the Kent deal? Basically reiterating the point that, given the value of airports servicing London, long term upside potential is massive, making it a good punt. My feeling is that in years to come there's a good chance that we could be looking back asking how they managed to buy such a strategic asset for basically next to nothing."

Does any ppruner know which interview this was?
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 08:14
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It was an interview with a guy who doesn't realize what is going to happen to the price of oil when the Yanks pull out of Iraq (not long now).
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 11:50
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Freight Questions

Had a look at DAS shed today. Presumably not operating while DAS A/C barred from Europe.

Suddenly realised I had forgotten all about Air Atlanta - Whatever happened to them? Did they quit when Planestation went bust? Their old shed looks derelict.

Also, does anyone know anything about this rumour that MK are under investigation?
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 14:44
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There's a DAS DC-10 inside the hangar which I presume they're working on. The ban came in one day after it arrived. Not sure what they'll do with it?

Air Atlanta periodically work at Manston. Earlier in the year(Feb-July 06) all their 747-200's came in for their interior service. Same every year. Activity for 6 months and then it'll go quiet for 6.

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Old 24th Oct 2006, 16:01
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Are you sure it's in the shed? I heard it flew out after the ban came into effect.......something about this being allowed because it wasn't a "commercial" flight. Didn't make a lot of sense to me at the time. Either there are safety concerns or there aren't.
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5X-JOE was still at MSE last weekend was the information I received so unless it's departed since then?
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