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Apologies
Apologies to all, just got carried away with the toilet comment.
I do still feel that not everyone wants or needs to go to London. A great deal of the EUjet passengers were from Kent and were not inbound visitors from from abroad hell bent on getting to London.
I agree that the infrastructure is not yet in place but there is something happening with road improvements in the near future.
I dont think Esperia will happen in December!!!
Iain
I do still feel that not everyone wants or needs to go to London. A great deal of the EUjet passengers were from Kent and were not inbound visitors from from abroad hell bent on getting to London.
I agree that the infrastructure is not yet in place but there is something happening with road improvements in the near future.
I dont think Esperia will happen in December!!!
Iain
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James you are so unpredictable! Just a few posts back you were bemoaning
the fact that EUJet had 5500 pax stranded abroad, and it was coming up
to it's busy time, and....... and !!! It was never given a
chance.......and now you say it 'was just in Beginner's hands!'
Now where do you stand?!!"
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It was coming up to its busy time and they did have 5500 stranded abroad I had a flight booked to go to Alicante the following week I am still with EUjet it could off worked all I was saying it was in Beginner's hands!' (Crapy hands more like)
any ideas on how the Virginia Holidays are going?
James
It was coming up to its busy time and they did have 5500 stranded abroad I had a flight booked to go to Alicante the following week I am still with EUjet it could off worked all I was saying it was in Beginner's hands!' (Crapy hands more like) any ideas on how the Virginia Holidays are going?James
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James,
Beginners Hands??? Amazing mate, but I will defo differ on that. PJ might not have the greatest rep in the business but he certainly has shed loads of money from this business and plenty of experience, he would do at 64 years of age and having worked in this business all his life. EUjet were my third airline, and not my first start up, and I have had one more airline since then and now 'retired', but still receiving offers. Everybody I knew in the management structure of EUjet has so much experience in the business it was criminal that we failed!! Two of the Revenue Managers for EUjet are now Heads of Revenue at other airlines, a number of the Operations side of the business are all Heads Of Operation at other carriers, One former EUjet employes is Deputy Chief Executive of a profit making LCC, I can go on! Experience and drive and knowledge was not the issue at EUjet, it was overcompensating for a poor Planestation Management, from an unproven airport, with an airline whose overheads and aircraft choice were already set out way before a scheduled service started! and it had nothing to do with being beginners- if he want to look at beginners look at Esperia, but again I do wish them beginners luck!
Beginners Hands??? Amazing mate, but I will defo differ on that. PJ might not have the greatest rep in the business but he certainly has shed loads of money from this business and plenty of experience, he would do at 64 years of age and having worked in this business all his life. EUjet were my third airline, and not my first start up, and I have had one more airline since then and now 'retired', but still receiving offers. Everybody I knew in the management structure of EUjet has so much experience in the business it was criminal that we failed!! Two of the Revenue Managers for EUjet are now Heads of Revenue at other airlines, a number of the Operations side of the business are all Heads Of Operation at other carriers, One former EUjet employes is Deputy Chief Executive of a profit making LCC, I can go on! Experience and drive and knowledge was not the issue at EUjet, it was overcompensating for a poor Planestation Management, from an unproven airport, with an airline whose overheads and aircraft choice were already set out way before a scheduled service started! and it had nothing to do with being beginners- if he want to look at beginners look at Esperia, but again I do wish them beginners luck!
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Steady on now chaps!
Manston Fan Club members need to sing from the same hymn sheet!
You are flying dangerously close to saying "EUjet was OK and did well at SNN. The management team are all doing well elsewhere. The only problem is Manston's poor location".
Incidentally, only 2 cars in passenger car park now. Can this poor performance be blamed on Planestation also?
Methinks not.
I wouldn't mind betting Seguro are doing OK at PIK, and it's only the Manston leg thats a no-go.
Manston Fan Club members need to sing from the same hymn sheet!
You are flying dangerously close to saying "EUjet was OK and did well at SNN. The management team are all doing well elsewhere. The only problem is Manston's poor location".
Incidentally, only 2 cars in passenger car park now. Can this poor performance be blamed on Planestation also?
Methinks not.
I wouldn't mind betting Seguro are doing OK at PIK, and it's only the Manston leg thats a no-go.
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Incidentally.......
I personally don't think it matters too much whether there is another failed loco at MSE.
What will really make a difference is a successful start at LYX.
Either way Manston ends up with egg on it's face.
I personally don't think it matters too much whether there is another failed loco at MSE.
What will really make a difference is a successful start at LYX.
Either way Manston ends up with egg on it's face.
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Manston Open Day
(Kent International Airport is hosting a holiday show at the end of this month to promote the services which will operate in 2007.
The event, which is open to all, takes place on Saturday September 30 and Sunday October 1 from 11am until 4pm on both days.
An estimated 3,000 people packed into the terminal during a sunny Sunday afternoon in May – the last time Kent International hosted a holiday show.
Organisers are hoping to surpass that total this time round as the event is taking place over two days.
As well as being a fantastic day out, the show will be useful for anyone with questions about the flight-only and package holiday services available next year.
Representatives from both Kent Escapes and Cosmos Holidays will be on hand to offer advice and information.
There is no admittance fee and free parking will be provided. What’s more, there are special offers and giveaways if you book up on the day and, if you’re lucky, you could win a holiday and other great prizes.
To keep the children amused there will be a magician, balloons, face painting and lollies, while a DJ will provide the soundtrack. Entertainment is provided throughout the day and light refreshments will be made available too.
Wendy Pollock, Sales Manager for Seguro Holidays, said: “We were involved in a similar event at Kent International back in May and it was a fantastic success. We are looking forward to seeing the people of Kent again.
“It’s a great opportunity for them to find out about the great choice of holidays we are offering in 2007 and our highly experienced sales staff will answer any travel queries and take reservations on the day.”
Andy Washington, Sales Director for Cosmos Holidays, commented: “Since the launch of our Virginia brochure featuring direct flights from Kent International, we've had a great deal of interest from people living in the Kent area.
“The holiday show will give local residents a great opportunity to pick up a brochure and hear more about the fantastic range of attractions and events happening in the Virginia area next year - all easily accessible from their local airport.”
Phill Vann, General Manager of Kent International Airport, added: “The last holiday show was a huge success and demonstrated the level of interest this airport generates in the community.
“We would urge all the people who made it down last time to come again, and to those who didn’t – come and see what we are all about, and find out about the great services on offer in 2007.”
Kent Escapes, which is part of the Seguro Travel Group, will operate flights to Faro in the popular Portugese Algarve region after a successful first season this year.
For 2007, they have added Spanish destinations Palma (Majorca) and Alicante (Benidorm) to their schedule, which will run from May until October.
With a strong reputation among holidaymakers and travel agents alike, Seguro Holidays currently fly thousands of sun seekers out of Glasgow Prestwick Airport every year, making it the airport’s largest tour operator with a high volume of repeat customers.
The company offers a wide range of 7 and 14 day packages, with accommodation in the two star to five star range)
Things are not as bad as some say, new destns for passenger flights and a lot more freight traffic.
things are on the up.
The event, which is open to all, takes place on Saturday September 30 and Sunday October 1 from 11am until 4pm on both days.
An estimated 3,000 people packed into the terminal during a sunny Sunday afternoon in May – the last time Kent International hosted a holiday show.
Organisers are hoping to surpass that total this time round as the event is taking place over two days.
As well as being a fantastic day out, the show will be useful for anyone with questions about the flight-only and package holiday services available next year.
Representatives from both Kent Escapes and Cosmos Holidays will be on hand to offer advice and information.
There is no admittance fee and free parking will be provided. What’s more, there are special offers and giveaways if you book up on the day and, if you’re lucky, you could win a holiday and other great prizes.
To keep the children amused there will be a magician, balloons, face painting and lollies, while a DJ will provide the soundtrack. Entertainment is provided throughout the day and light refreshments will be made available too.
Wendy Pollock, Sales Manager for Seguro Holidays, said: “We were involved in a similar event at Kent International back in May and it was a fantastic success. We are looking forward to seeing the people of Kent again.
“It’s a great opportunity for them to find out about the great choice of holidays we are offering in 2007 and our highly experienced sales staff will answer any travel queries and take reservations on the day.”
Andy Washington, Sales Director for Cosmos Holidays, commented: “Since the launch of our Virginia brochure featuring direct flights from Kent International, we've had a great deal of interest from people living in the Kent area.
“The holiday show will give local residents a great opportunity to pick up a brochure and hear more about the fantastic range of attractions and events happening in the Virginia area next year - all easily accessible from their local airport.”
Phill Vann, General Manager of Kent International Airport, added: “The last holiday show was a huge success and demonstrated the level of interest this airport generates in the community.
“We would urge all the people who made it down last time to come again, and to those who didn’t – come and see what we are all about, and find out about the great services on offer in 2007.”
Kent Escapes, which is part of the Seguro Travel Group, will operate flights to Faro in the popular Portugese Algarve region after a successful first season this year.
For 2007, they have added Spanish destinations Palma (Majorca) and Alicante (Benidorm) to their schedule, which will run from May until October.
With a strong reputation among holidaymakers and travel agents alike, Seguro Holidays currently fly thousands of sun seekers out of Glasgow Prestwick Airport every year, making it the airport’s largest tour operator with a high volume of repeat customers.
The company offers a wide range of 7 and 14 day packages, with accommodation in the two star to five star range)
Things are not as bad as some say, new destns for passenger flights and a lot more freight traffic.
things are on the up.
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With DAS (temporary?) and Egypt air, freight landings are up a bit compared to 2 months ago, but nowhere near the double daily that MK were doing in 2003.
I make no claims to know about freight, but the impression I get over the past eight years is that operators use Manston for a bit, and then they go elsewhere.
MK have been a bit more consistent.
I suppose if I were a freight operator I would look at it in pretty much the same way as a pax flight -
Why fly for six hours, only to have to truck the cargo for another six, when I could use a nearer airport and cut my road time?
Therefore, if my tomatoes are heading for East Kent, Manston makes sense, but for anywhere else there are better airports.
And East Kent is not a densely populated region.
Overall LHR and LGW would seem to make more sense.
I make no claims to know about freight, but the impression I get over the past eight years is that operators use Manston for a bit, and then they go elsewhere.
MK have been a bit more consistent.
I suppose if I were a freight operator I would look at it in pretty much the same way as a pax flight -
Why fly for six hours, only to have to truck the cargo for another six, when I could use a nearer airport and cut my road time?
Therefore, if my tomatoes are heading for East Kent, Manston makes sense, but for anywhere else there are better airports.
And East Kent is not a densely populated region.
Overall LHR and LGW would seem to make more sense.
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Infratil's August KIA-M report.
At Kent International Airport, freight has continued to grow with August being a record month with 1,959,082 kg going through the airport. A number of carriers are now regular users of KIA and this provides a good signal that both the facility and the quality of service are competitive.
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With DAS (temporary?) and Egypt air, freight landings are up a bit compared to 2 months ago, but nowhere near the double daily that MK were doing in 2003.
I make no claims to know about freight, but the impression I get over the past eight years is that operators use Manston for a bit, and then they go elsewhere.
MK have been a bit more consistent.
I suppose if I were a freight operator I would look at it in pretty much the same way as a pax flight -
Why fly for six hours, only to have to truck the cargo for another six, when I could use a nearer airport and cut my road time?
Therefore, if my tomatoes are heading for East Kent, Manston makes sense, but for anywhere else there are better airports.
And East Kent is not a densely populated region.
Overall LHR and LGW would seem to make more sense.
I make no claims to know about freight, but the impression I get over the past eight years is that operators use Manston for a bit, and then they go elsewhere.
MK have been a bit more consistent.
I suppose if I were a freight operator I would look at it in pretty much the same way as a pax flight -
Why fly for six hours, only to have to truck the cargo for another six, when I could use a nearer airport and cut my road time?
Therefore, if my tomatoes are heading for East Kent, Manston makes sense, but for anywhere else there are better airports.
And East Kent is not a densely populated region.
Overall LHR and LGW would seem to make more sense.
Why indeed?
Is it because that when freight operators use large passenger airports, they have to sit and wait, sometimes for hours on end before anyone go's near their aircraft to unload it?
Is it because when they use mse they can get a better service, faster turn-around and their cargo on the road within hours of landing?
Is that why Egypt Air have started to use mse over Stansted, because they do actually get a better service and faster turn-around?
.........well their cargo manager seems to think, this is why mse makes sense and lgw and lhr don't.
Point made, off my soap box now.
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Firstly I'll say that I am not a pilot and not in an aviation job. Have an interest in Manston purely from having driven past it a fair few times.
Do other European countries have low-cost carriers like us? Equally do they have passengers demanding to go to London? After all some of the low cost carriers flying out of the UK dump you at an airport which is miles away from the place you actually thought you were going to.
So surely all that needs to be done is to persuade another countries low cost carrier that Manston is in fact London, and they'll fly lots of people in! Whilst thats arranged I'll go and set up a taxi service from Manston to London!
Do other European countries have low-cost carriers like us? Equally do they have passengers demanding to go to London? After all some of the low cost carriers flying out of the UK dump you at an airport which is miles away from the place you actually thought you were going to.
So surely all that needs to be done is to persuade another countries low cost carrier that Manston is in fact London, and they'll fly lots of people in! Whilst thats arranged I'll go and set up a taxi service from Manston to London!
It's been tried already. Didn't work!!
