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Stansted Route
From a good source of information the Stansted might be rising up from the ashes in the not to distant.
From what I can make out a deal has been done between the airline and the airport.
This might have come about with British Midland doing a deal over the Heathrow service.
From what I can make out a deal has been done between the airline and the airport.
This might have come about with British Midland doing a deal over the Heathrow service.
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Stansted here we come
Well jerboy
Try working it out I scratch your back and you scratch mine
What was in the local rag the end of last week one signs a deal and one complains.
Got the plot or shall i carry on
If we give you something you will not go no further rewfering to the article.
Get the idea.
With the summer being around the corner there is more like this going on.
Try working it out I scratch your back and you scratch mine
What was in the local rag the end of last week one signs a deal and one complains.
Got the plot or shall i carry on
If we give you something you will not go no further rewfering to the article.
Get the idea.
With the summer being around the corner there is more like this going on.
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Ahh should've guessed... been a long few days! Well I've not been on the rock for a good few weeks so haven't been able to see the thrilling rag you refer to 
But yeah I've seen enough to work out who... guess it doesn't take a genius!
Cheers!
But yeah I've seen enough to work out who... guess it doesn't take a genius!
Cheers!
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On a seperate note, just read on the WOW thread that BA are to drop the 6th JER-LGW in the summer... I'm guessing as a response to the LHR.
Is this confirmed or just a rumor? BA are still showing 6/7 rotations online.
Is this confirmed or just a rumor? BA are still showing 6/7 rotations online.
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Well jerboy well done for working the first one out.
As for the second one.
B.A. are fishing at the moment why operate to Jersey on the sixth rotation when we might win going to Newquay, that might have a better Noel Edmonds with operating that one.
Can you work that one out?
Deal Or No Deal.
New route or No route
It is a cruel world and cut throat on what goes on in the background of aviation.
As for the second one.
B.A. are fishing at the moment why operate to Jersey on the sixth rotation when we might win going to Newquay, that might have a better Noel Edmonds with operating that one.
Can you work that one out?
Deal Or No Deal.
New route or No route
It is a cruel world and cut throat on what goes on in the background of aviation.
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Another route with competition...
Birmingham is now available to book on-line with bmibaby from Jersey. Looks like flights will operate on Sa/Su/Tu/Th.
Cardiff also goes 3x weekly up from just the weekend flight last summer.
Birmingham is now available to book on-line with bmibaby from Jersey. Looks like flights will operate on Sa/Su/Tu/Th.
Cardiff also goes 3x weekly up from just the weekend flight last summer.
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Make Or Brake Time
Well what can one say the States can,t say it,s new routes but who will give in first.
It will be interesting what bull the local rag will make of this and how well the Airport Committee and there hench men have scored another success story for Jersey Airport.com
Competition is a good thing but over capicity is some thing differant who brakes first.
What Jersey really needs is routes into Europe not competition that cannot work good for the travelling public but how long for.
It will be interesting what bull the local rag will make of this and how well the Airport Committee and there hench men have scored another success story for Jersey Airport.com
Competition is a good thing but over capicity is some thing differant who brakes first.
What Jersey really needs is routes into Europe not competition that cannot work good for the travelling public but how long for.
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Had look a BMIbaby website and tried to book seats for August Bank Hols
and only four seat left on Sat 25th the BHX-JER sector.
I take it the up take has been very good as their fare structor will kill FlyBe.
Looking at under £100 return and FlyBe for the same time is compared to FlyBe's over £300
and only four seat left on Sat 25th the BHX-JER sector.
I take it the up take has been very good as their fare structor will kill FlyBe.
Looking at under £100 return and FlyBe for the same time is compared to FlyBe's over £300
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Heathrow is with the A319 except Saturday evenings and Sunday mornings when it is an ERJ 145. The Birmingham/Cardiff flights are probably with the 733.
On the Birmingham route, I agree that there will be excess capacity this summer. Since 2004, with the introduction of Thomsonfly Coventry flights, Flybe passenger numbers have decreased considerably and bmibaby can only exacerbate this.
Nevertheless, the Flybe fares between Birmingham and Jersey are notoriously high thus competition is welcome if it drives down fares and generates new passengers. But with the likelihood of flights going 2x daily, as the bmibaby press release highlights, then something will have to give.
Definitely a make or break summer for Jersey Airport on a number of routes. It will be interesting next year to see what changes there will be as a result.
On the Birmingham route, I agree that there will be excess capacity this summer. Since 2004, with the introduction of Thomsonfly Coventry flights, Flybe passenger numbers have decreased considerably and bmibaby can only exacerbate this.
Nevertheless, the Flybe fares between Birmingham and Jersey are notoriously high thus competition is welcome if it drives down fares and generates new passengers. But with the likelihood of flights going 2x daily, as the bmibaby press release highlights, then something will have to give.
Definitely a make or break summer for Jersey Airport on a number of routes. It will be interesting next year to see what changes there will be as a result.
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Its excellent news that WW are starting a BHX service from JER. Along with the new LHR, LTN, and increases to various other services its a sign that the industry are starting to show an interest in Jersey again, lost many years ago when the number of services from the rock started to decline.
Ok there may not be many routes to Europe but I honestly don't believe these would be that popular. In my experience in dealing with Jersey passengers the majority seem to be going further afield than Europe, and those that do travel to the continent are far too spread out to be served by just one airport. The only routes I do believe could work would be ones from Portugal or Poland... not because a lot of locals want to visit there, but because we have a huge working community from both of those countries.
Whilst Julian Green and the airport committee may be after all these 'flagship' routes to Europe, my belief is that these would not survive without heavy subsidy from the states. Instead we seem to be getting sorted a decent commercial network, with competition, that will ultimately serve islanders better. Let's not forget its not every regional airport's God-given right to be served by major national airlines to LHR and LGW, especially with Jersey's tiny catchment size.
Those of us that live on Jersey are more than used to having to connect at a UK airport to catch our flight to the sun, and in my opinion a better regional service (which would allow pax to connect onto where ever they like) far better serves the island than the few European destinations which would benefit the few, but would be irrelevant to many.
phew... don't know where that came from... just felt like saying it!!
Ok there may not be many routes to Europe but I honestly don't believe these would be that popular. In my experience in dealing with Jersey passengers the majority seem to be going further afield than Europe, and those that do travel to the continent are far too spread out to be served by just one airport. The only routes I do believe could work would be ones from Portugal or Poland... not because a lot of locals want to visit there, but because we have a huge working community from both of those countries.
Whilst Julian Green and the airport committee may be after all these 'flagship' routes to Europe, my belief is that these would not survive without heavy subsidy from the states. Instead we seem to be getting sorted a decent commercial network, with competition, that will ultimately serve islanders better. Let's not forget its not every regional airport's God-given right to be served by major national airlines to LHR and LGW, especially with Jersey's tiny catchment size.
Those of us that live on Jersey are more than used to having to connect at a UK airport to catch our flight to the sun, and in my opinion a better regional service (which would allow pax to connect onto where ever they like) far better serves the island than the few European destinations which would benefit the few, but would be irrelevant to many.
phew... don't know where that came from... just felt like saying it!!
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Dear Trihandle,
Zurich Route
Wouldn't it make sense for VLM to use the Fokker 50 on a Mon to Fri service to Zurich as they have an aircraft sitting at Jersey airport for most of the day.
It might be sitting for nearly seven hours though,
The Jer shift either starting from ANR/BRU/RTM or MAN via LCY and same routing back consists of nearly 13.5 duty hours.
So an extra rotation includes 6 landings in total therefore ones goes over the magic 14 hours.
Grtz
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Zurich Route
Wouldn't it make sense for VLM to use the Fokker 50 on a Mon to Fri service to Zurich as they have an aircraft sitting at Jersey airport for most of the day.
It might be sitting for nearly seven hours though,
The Jer shift either starting from ANR/BRU/RTM or MAN via LCY and same routing back consists of nearly 13.5 duty hours.
So an extra rotation includes 6 landings in total therefore ones goes over the magic 14 hours.
Grtz
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Flight Time Limitations
The Fokker 50 day stops route is Antwerp-City-Jersey-City-Antwerp yes only afour sector day but one need to know on flight time limitations to find out if the crew could fit in another two sectors if they were very short possible.
The idea to operate to somewhere like Zurich a number of commercial thoughts goes into this one where do we fit a second crew into this pattern do we operate to Zurich i think the answer is no so to have one turnaround per day not cost effective enough.
So the idea to operate instead of having a lay over in my opinion will not happen.
The idea to operate to somewhere like Zurich a number of commercial thoughts goes into this one where do we fit a second crew into this pattern do we operate to Zurich i think the answer is no so to have one turnaround per day not cost effective enough.
So the idea to operate instead of having a lay over in my opinion will not happen.
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Flybe have put the full Jersey summer schedule on sale now. Good news is that we will have a 2x daily flights to Manchester and 1x on a Sunday from the end of March. Flights from Jersey to Manchester are not available yet, should be soon, but the booking engine shows that the flights arrive at around 09:25 and 18:20 on weekdays, which gives the possibility for a day return.
Flybe will also begin 1x daily Guernsey flights from Manchester and Norwich goes daily from the islands albeit with a combined flight (except on Saturdays when flights are direct).
There may be a few modifications to this but the above does seem to be the basic gist of the changes for the summer.
Flybe will also begin 1x daily Guernsey flights from Manchester and Norwich goes daily from the islands albeit with a combined flight (except on Saturdays when flights are direct).
There may be a few modifications to this but the above does seem to be the basic gist of the changes for the summer.
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Flybe in trouble?
All of a sudden, things look a bit dicey for Flybe ... see FT article on front page (Rumours and News) ... not like them to sensationalise.
Will they conclude BACON purchase tomorrow? If not, where next?
Worst case scenario for JER? Flybe goes belly up. Chances of replacement at short notice? Jet 2? Easy? (Gasp ...) FR. Could be a bit uncomfortable.
As for today's bleating in the JEP over the subsidy for BMI's LHR route, a little hypocritical I think. BE was perfectly willing to take a subsidy for operating Paris route (indeed, more than was being offered); as for "offer" to operate LHR route from JER, complete piffle. They offered slots to JER (in full knowledge that States, or any non-airline couldn't own them), then sold them to QF at a considerable profit.
Hopefully BE can pull through, but I wouldn't like to be Mike French tonight; possibly a very poor night's sleep ahead ...
Will they conclude BACON purchase tomorrow? If not, where next?
Worst case scenario for JER? Flybe goes belly up. Chances of replacement at short notice? Jet 2? Easy? (Gasp ...) FR. Could be a bit uncomfortable.
As for today's bleating in the JEP over the subsidy for BMI's LHR route, a little hypocritical I think. BE was perfectly willing to take a subsidy for operating Paris route (indeed, more than was being offered); as for "offer" to operate LHR route from JER, complete piffle. They offered slots to JER (in full knowledge that States, or any non-airline couldn't own them), then sold them to QF at a considerable profit.
Hopefully BE can pull through, but I wouldn't like to be Mike French tonight; possibly a very poor night's sleep ahead ...
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A lot of people will be on tender hooks untill tomorrow has come and gone but untill the full picture appears on the 1st of March there might be more the Jimmy the French having a sleepless night tonight and tomorrow.
We can only hope they do know what they are doing but look a managements past records and work out for ones self what the out come might be.
Lets hope the 1st of march brings a lot of relief and not dissapointment.
Just as well April the 1st is still a little way away.
We can only hope they do know what they are doing but look a managements past records and work out for ones self what the out come might be.
Lets hope the 1st of march brings a lot of relief and not dissapointment.
Just as well April the 1st is still a little way away.
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Applications published by the CAA today are:
Air Southwest...charter service between Leeds/Bradford and Jersey
Air Southwest...charter service between Stansted and Jersey
BMI Baby....scheduled service between Birmingham and Jersey
Application granted
Thomsonfly scheduled service between Luton and Jersey
Air Southwest...charter service between Leeds/Bradford and Jersey
Air Southwest...charter service between Stansted and Jersey
BMI Baby....scheduled service between Birmingham and Jersey
Application granted
Thomsonfly scheduled service between Luton and Jersey