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Future Routes.
Anyone any information on the following.
Talk about the following routes or is it just the normal wind from high up at the airport.
The following routes Jersey to Paris or near by as in the likes of Ryanair
Jersey to Stansted
Jersey to Geneva or Zurich
Jersey to London City more rotations?
Three of these routes were spoken about in an airport forum update recently
can any one through any light at all on any these or is it hot air from the top and these or some will never happen.
We have heard some of this in the past and still hasn,t come to being.
The last one was the Heathrow which had been talked about for a long time but this is happening and start on the 25th March so some of the above might happen?
Talk about the following routes or is it just the normal wind from high up at the airport.
The following routes Jersey to Paris or near by as in the likes of Ryanair
Jersey to Stansted
Jersey to Geneva or Zurich
Jersey to London City more rotations?
Three of these routes were spoken about in an airport forum update recently
can any one through any light at all on any these or is it hot air from the top and these or some will never happen.
We have heard some of this in the past and still hasn,t come to being.
The last one was the Heathrow which had been talked about for a long time but this is happening and start on the 25th March so some of the above might happen?
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Got a call from bmi today re Sunday's inaugural to LHR. Flight is being moved to 9.25am departure, from 8.40 (or so). Not sure if this is the case with all flights, or just the inaugural; inbound connections would certainly benefit from a slightly later departure from LHR.
Inaugural flight will be operated by A319, not Embraer 145, although future Saturday evening/Sunday morning services will be operated by 145s.
I see Sen. Ben Shenton is moaning about the subsidy, arguing that even though we're not in the EU, we should bear in mind EU law. (We did and it didn't help); pity even some politicians seem not to see the whole picture as far as getting air routes for JER is concerned.
Inaugural flight will be operated by A319, not Embraer 145, although future Saturday evening/Sunday morning services will be operated by 145s.
I see Sen. Ben Shenton is moaning about the subsidy, arguing that even though we're not in the EU, we should bear in mind EU law. (We did and it didn't help); pity even some politicians seem not to see the whole picture as far as getting air routes for JER is concerned.
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More to come may be?
Well akerosid
Is this not good in some ways the tax payer need to know but if Franks and his hench men have over steped there little world could the E.U. fall on this?
Well no as the Channel islands are not in the E.U. so interesting times on this little number I think?
Is this not good in some ways the tax payer need to know but if Franks and his hench men have over steped there little world could the E.U. fall on this?
Well no as the Channel islands are not in the E.U. so interesting times on this little number I think?
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I may be a little biased, as I've been campaigning for the return of the LHR route for some time and consequently, I want to see it brought back whatever the cost. However, the point I would make is that smaller communities, particularly island communities which obviously have no road/rail links, have to go out into the market and hustle. If airlines like Flybe can change the way they operate to suit the new market, airports and communities should be allowed to do so also. Stopping them from doing so and tying their hands and restricting them is fundamentally unfair.
A sustainable economy for a community like Jersey depends on enticing new carriers and for a small community to do so, it needs to be generous in the incentives it provides. I think this is particularly the case in relation to LHR; the UK govt is wilfully blind to the needs of smaller communities, by considering London as one market and therefore, not understanding the importance of connectivity through LHR (as compared to say LTN or STN); in an Open Skies environment, I see some peripheral UK markets losing their links.
If the govts don't recognise the reality of how important access to major hubs is and if the EU tries to prohibit govt owned airports from offering good deals, then it seems the deck is stacked very much against more peripheral communities - and in favour of wealthier and more profitable destinations. I certainly don't see that as an acceptable or fair situation and I think the Jersey authorities are perfectly right to do whatever they need to do to put on the map and make us more accessible.
A sustainable economy for a community like Jersey depends on enticing new carriers and for a small community to do so, it needs to be generous in the incentives it provides. I think this is particularly the case in relation to LHR; the UK govt is wilfully blind to the needs of smaller communities, by considering London as one market and therefore, not understanding the importance of connectivity through LHR (as compared to say LTN or STN); in an Open Skies environment, I see some peripheral UK markets losing their links.
If the govts don't recognise the reality of how important access to major hubs is and if the EU tries to prohibit govt owned airports from offering good deals, then it seems the deck is stacked very much against more peripheral communities - and in favour of wealthier and more profitable destinations. I certainly don't see that as an acceptable or fair situation and I think the Jersey authorities are perfectly right to do whatever they need to do to put on the map and make us more accessible.
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We could do with a better service from NCL to Jersey. The current weekly summer Sat only single flight is not enough. I have tried booking for early July for Mon to Fri and it is difficult, even via another airport. We used to have several flights per week at one time, schedule and charter, but its just one 70 seater per week now.
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Having experienced the difficulties of getting to Newcastle from Jersey myself, I agree that it would be beneficial to have improved links between the North East and Jersey. It is unfortunate that Durham Tees Valley is reduced to once weekly during the summer because the multiple weekly bmibaby flights were relatively successful.
It will be excellent to see the Embraer 195 in Jersey. I have viewed the aircraft in Exeter on numerous occasions but it will be exciting to see it at home on a busy summer Saturday.
For the first few Saturdays, however, an ERJ 145 will be used.
A few on-line timetables also suggest that the bmi A320 will be used on the weekday evening Heathrow flight. I don’t know if this is correct but I guess there is always the possibility.
Sadly, Wolters Reisen has dropped the Stuttgart flight for the summer although Munich is new (Augsburg Airways Q400).
It will be excellent to see the Embraer 195 in Jersey. I have viewed the aircraft in Exeter on numerous occasions but it will be exciting to see it at home on a busy summer Saturday.
For the first few Saturdays, however, an ERJ 145 will be used.A few on-line timetables also suggest that the bmi A320 will be used on the weekday evening Heathrow flight. I don’t know if this is correct but I guess there is always the possibility.
Sadly, Wolters Reisen has dropped the Stuttgart flight for the summer although Munich is new (Augsburg Airways Q400).
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At any cost, is a childish way of thinking. and maybe shouyld be funded by yourself,
this route is going to last a few weeks, months and disapear thank god back into obblivion . unfortunately with the tax payers money.
this route is going to last a few weeks, months and disapear thank god back into obblivion . unfortunately with the tax payers money.
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Midland Bus/Flybe Birmingham
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I did hear from a good source the morning weekday bus will be the A319 and the evening an A320.
This will change in the morning if Midland start the day with a tech Bus, things will snowball as the Jersey Bus is the last of the morning departures for them, so the Jersey bus will be nicked and will have to wait for a replacement one.
With Flybe putting on an EMB195 on a Saturday for this summer, does it mean without seeing last years Birmingham schedules have they cut back the Saturday services due to competition from the likes of Baby starting this year from Brumm to Jersey?
I did hear from a good source the morning weekday bus will be the A319 and the evening an A320.
This will change in the morning if Midland start the day with a tech Bus, things will snowball as the Jersey Bus is the last of the morning departures for them, so the Jersey bus will be nicked and will have to wait for a replacement one.
With Flybe putting on an EMB195 on a Saturday for this summer, does it mean without seeing last years Birmingham schedules have they cut back the Saturday services due to competition from the likes of Baby starting this year from Brumm to Jersey?
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have they cut back the Saturday services due to competition from the likes of Baby
The summer schedule does not begin until Sunday but already Thomsonfly has released next winter's flights.
Cardiff and Luton are retained with 3x weekly flights, Coventry 5x weekly and Doncaster 4x weekly. The flights work well for the short-break market that Thomsonfly is keen to develop. And at least there'll be no newspaper reports suggesting Thomsonfly are pulling out as happened with the late release of this summer’s timetable.
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EI back to 3 wkly
I checked the EI website and it appears that it will now be operated 3 a week to JER this Summer, which is encouraging. It had been planned to operate just two. I do wish someone - perhaps RE - would operate year-round to DUB; there certainly is the market and it's increasingly inconvenient, not to mention costly, to fly through the UK.
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Aer Lingus
I might be wrong from what I can make out,
The summer programme for Aer Lingus to Dublin the start date was a month or so later? the way they were showing the flights might have given the wrong immpression there was only two a week
The summer programme for Aer Lingus to Dublin the start date was a month or so later? the way they were showing the flights might have given the wrong immpression there was only two a week
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First BMI to LHR ...
Operated by A319 (G-DBCC); left pretty much bang on time ... good service, good crew - very nice aircraft (and about 60-70% full). Very little fanfare or anything out of the ordinary at the airport.
Interesting story in today's Observer, about the effect of Open Skies on "local" routes. Not very good news, but not surprising. Gist of it seems to be that bmi may look at UK domestic routes (which excludes JER) for the axe, as it seeks to build services to US; 3 A332s soon to be ordered.
Interesting story in today's Observer, about the effect of Open Skies on "local" routes. Not very good news, but not surprising. Gist of it seems to be that bmi may look at UK domestic routes (which excludes JER) for the axe, as it seeks to build services to US; 3 A332s soon to be ordered.
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With the takeover of British Mediterranne Airways I understand they have 12 slots at Heathrow, some of these routes at the moment might be choped making way for these BMed slots being used over the pond?
With the takeover of British Mediterranne Airways I understand they have 12 slots at Heathrow, some of these routes at the moment might be choped making way for these BMed slots being used over the pond?
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Just to clear some thing up, the new Heathrow-Jersey operation came out with some of the slots made available due to the Heathrow-Paris route stopping, which was 10 slots. So Jersey has four of them and started the operation yesterday.
The deal to buy BMed was done after the Jersey route was signed sealled and almost delivered.
Now the open skies policy for flights to America have come about Midland will be looking to operate there A330 fleet on some of these to America possible?so where do they get the slots from? well Bmed had 12 so they might take some from there, some of the Bmed routes don,t perform well so they could be dropped, in doing so frees up slots and to keep them they need to operate some where. Well how about accross to America?
Just to clear some thing up, the new Heathrow-Jersey operation came out with some of the slots made available due to the Heathrow-Paris route stopping, which was 10 slots. So Jersey has four of them and started the operation yesterday.
The deal to buy BMed was done after the Jersey route was signed sealled and almost delivered.
Now the open skies policy for flights to America have come about Midland will be looking to operate there A330 fleet on some of these to America possible?so where do they get the slots from? well Bmed had 12 so they might take some from there, some of the Bmed routes don,t perform well so they could be dropped, in doing so frees up slots and to keep them they need to operate some where. Well how about accross to America?
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Just heard that WOW will be doing STN-JER
I see that Blue Islands has dropped direct flights from Jersey to Alderney leaving the islands without a link except via Guernsey. It was a marginal loss-making route, however, flights between Jersey and Alderney have a long history and it will impact upon Alderney’s tourism industry and inconvenience residents. A case of 'I told you so' from Aurigny I guess.
Interestingly, saw the Bluebird 733 freighter on stand today, looked very nice in the sunshine.
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Aci-jer
Yes, no more direct JER-ACI-JER flights, a massive blow to Alderney tourism.
As a frequent user of the route I find this decision, at the start of the summer season, quite unbelieveable.
As a frequent user of the route I find this decision, at the start of the summer season, quite unbelieveable.
Obviously the yield on the JER-ACI route is very low hence the decision by BCI to pull the plug. Airlines have to make money to survive, too many people seem to forget that! Aurigny whittled this route down to a few flights a week before BCI came on the scene & tried to stimulate new traffic. It would only have been a matter of time before GR dropped it anyway in my opinion. Competition or no competition.
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