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Many years ago(early 70's), Aurigny used to fly ACI- Cherbourg with an Islander, & in more recent years JER to Dinard & Caen - both routes now withdrawn. Rockhopper did I think operate JER - Dinard for a very short time after Aurigny's withdrawal. Jersey European also operated JER - Dinard for a number of years with a Shorts 360 service. Blue Islands operated a JER/GCI - St Brieuc service until about 18 months ago.
The GCI - Dinard service is still flown by Aurigny & is used mostly by islanders. It would be good to see a few new French routes from the islands to the north coast of France, but I doubt any of the existing carriers would be interested in operating such a service.
The GCI - Dinard service is still flown by Aurigny & is used mostly by islanders. It would be good to see a few new French routes from the islands to the north coast of France, but I doubt any of the existing carriers would be interested in operating such a service.
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I would think a GCI/JER combined service to Caen say three times a week would prove reasonably popular, not only for the legal profession but also for the many schools who are linked and affiliated to the Univeriste de Basse-Normandie in Caen. I'm sure that the States in both Islands and the Conseil Regional de Basse-Normandie would offer support for such a route as it would enable relations between the these historically liked destinations to be improved even further.
I also think a similar route to Rennes or Nantes could prove reasonably popular too. I believe the Blue Islands Paris Beauvais service has proved to be quite popular so im sure a similar service to the above named destinations could also prove to be reasonably popular, especially the likes of Nantes which has a large number of international connections.
I also think a similar route to Rennes or Nantes could prove reasonably popular too. I believe the Blue Islands Paris Beauvais service has proved to be quite popular so im sure a similar service to the above named destinations could also prove to be reasonably popular, especially the likes of Nantes which has a large number of international connections.
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Maybe 6 times weekly was too much, maybe 4 times weekly is more suitable for the market, remember when Blue Islands started the service it was in untested waters, plus it is winter and many routes by many airlines are reduced down during the winter, so maybe come summer time the service will be brought back up again to 6 times weekly. I have heard that certain days of the week particularly Fridays JER-BVA and Sun and Mon's BVA-JER are generally very nearly full if not full.
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In addition to the French routes already noted, Jersey European operated between the Channel Islands and both Dinard and St. Brieuc with BN-2A Islanders G-BDNP (which crashed in Guernsey 18.09.81 while operating JER-GCI) and G-BESO.
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More recently I remember Air Bretagne operated flights from northern France in the late 1990s/early 2000s. Flights were operated to Brest, Caen, Nantes, St. Brieuc, Dinard and Paris Orly with a few Beech aircraft. They didn’t last particularly long; I recall one of the aircraft being impounded on Jersey in the end.
Nowadays there isn’t much demand, particularly from Jersey. I doubt the States would want to finance routes that do not benefit the Island economically, with the ferries serving Bretagne and Normandie so much more valuable for trade, tourism and culture. Although I suppose more distant destinations like Rennes and Caen are possible options as economic ties strengthen.
Nowadays there isn’t much demand, particularly from Jersey. I doubt the States would want to finance routes that do not benefit the Island economically, with the ferries serving Bretagne and Normandie so much more valuable for trade, tourism and culture. Although I suppose more distant destinations like Rennes and Caen are possible options as economic ties strengthen.
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Aurigny also flew GCI to Cherbourg for many years. People used it to connect with the train to Paris. From memory the train service was altered and numbers on the route died off.
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Intra (the nucleus of what was to become Jersey European in 1979 after a merger with EAS) operated Islanders:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/stephen.jo...mon/newb28.jpg
I came across these interesting timetable images from the 1970s:
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/jy3.htm
This one shows the timetable for the Granville flights by Aurigny for summer 1968:
http://www.timetableimages.com/i-gj/gr6808a.jpg
Browsing through this nice collection, I also cmae across "Bretagne Air Services" that operated from Guernsey to Dinard in 1980.
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/stephen.jo...mon/newb28.jpg
I came across these interesting timetable images from the 1970s:
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/jy3.htm
This one shows the timetable for the Granville flights by Aurigny for summer 1968:
http://www.timetableimages.com/i-gj/gr6808a.jpg
Browsing through this nice collection, I also cmae across "Bretagne Air Services" that operated from Guernsey to Dinard in 1980.
Early Jersey European Memories
JY operated 4 types smaller than, & before the arrival of the 360 in the early days
Islander
Twin Otter
Bandeirante
330
Various Twin Otters were leased in over the summer months in the early 80's from the British Antarctic Survey. Anyone remember them?
I mustn't forget Viscount G-AVJB which also carried JEA titles around the same period.
Islander
Twin Otter
Bandeirante
330
Various Twin Otters were leased in over the summer months in the early 80's from the British Antarctic Survey. Anyone remember them?
I mustn't forget Viscount G-AVJB which also carried JEA titles around the same period.
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Blue Islands is looking to switch their Do328 for something more economical to lease like J41 and restart JER DUB (& on to IOM?). They seem to be expanding the J31 fleet so commonality makes sense.
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Operating something like the J41 instead of the D328 would make more sense for the company not only for fleet commonality but also due to the cross winds that affect the islands on a regular basis, unfortunately the J41 does not have the same passenger appeal as the D328.
I thought that DUB would be operated out of GCI as its GCI that wants the route, JER already has Aer Lingus operating the route (be it only in summer).
As I have mentioned on the IOM thread, I would expect to see BCI flying twice daily to the IOM by the end of the year.
I thought that DUB would be operated out of GCI as its GCI that wants the route, JER already has Aer Lingus operating the route (be it only in summer).
As I have mentioned on the IOM thread, I would expect to see BCI flying twice daily to the IOM by the end of the year.
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Yes I can remember the old days of JEA, Ayline was absolutely right, I still remember the night 'NP' crashed. There was also Islander 'XP', an old one from the west country. And don't forget Spacegrand came along later, about 1982, Jack Walker did not start the Airline, he bought it. The first SD330 came from Time Air, Canada, G-BEEO, 2 more were added before SD360's arrived, but the Twin Otter days were best, lots of fun before the move to Exeter.
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BA and LGW?
I've been hearing reports that the planned transfer of 319s from LHR to LGW isn't going to happen and BA's actual plan is to shut down its LGW operation and c/s with BE, in which it has an interest anyway.
Consequently, end of BA in JER ... possibility for U2 to get on LGW-JER in competition with BE/BA?
Consequently, end of BA in JER ... possibility for U2 to get on LGW-JER in competition with BE/BA?
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Some recent posts have been moved here> http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=310761
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BMI making noise about LHR link
From today's JEP:
http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/sho...ticleID=100885
Wonder what their game is; why mention just JER (among a small number of other routes); are they trying to screw the States for a higher subsidy when this route comes up for review? Surely other 319/320 (and particularly ER4) operated routes would also come under threat?
http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/sho...ticleID=100885
Wonder what their game is; why mention just JER (among a small number of other routes); are they trying to screw the States for a higher subsidy when this route comes up for review? Surely other 319/320 (and particularly ER4) operated routes would also come under threat?
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The Commuters.
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The BAA is trying to outprice the commuter aircraft at Heathrow it is the likes of the EMB145 and the Fokker 50 will be the operators into Heathrow are the operators will suffer.
At the moment out of the 14 flights between heathrow and Jersey there is only two flights operated by the ENM145 the Sunday morning from Heathrow and the Sunday morning out flights
The summer schedule 2007 had four flights the Saturday evening in and out and the Sunday morning in and out so BAA are trying to squeezenig the commuter aircraft not the likes ofthe Airbus operators as B.A. and Midland have a fleet of 319 and 320 aircraft but the likes of the commuter or feeder airlines.
The BAA is trying to outprice the commuter aircraft at Heathrow it is the likes of the EMB145 and the Fokker 50 will be the operators into Heathrow are the operators will suffer.
At the moment out of the 14 flights between heathrow and Jersey there is only two flights operated by the ENM145 the Sunday morning from Heathrow and the Sunday morning out flights
The summer schedule 2007 had four flights the Saturday evening in and out and the Sunday morning in and out so BAA are trying to squeezenig the commuter aircraft not the likes ofthe Airbus operators as B.A. and Midland have a fleet of 319 and 320 aircraft but the likes of the commuter or feeder airlines.
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If this info is correct on the move of the D328 to base it in Jersey could it be to cut down on Flight Deck cost?
If the aircraft is based in Jersey could one crew do the Isle of Man and the Swiss flights, four sectors starting at 0730 ish and finishing at 1730 ish.
If so it does cut the cost of operating the aircraft with only one crew to night stop.
This is only a thought I could well be wrong.
If this info is correct on the move of the D328 to base it in Jersey could it be to cut down on Flight Deck cost?
If the aircraft is based in Jersey could one crew do the Isle of Man and the Swiss flights, four sectors starting at 0730 ish and finishing at 1730 ish.
If so it does cut the cost of operating the aircraft with only one crew to night stop.
This is only a thought I could well be wrong.
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Anybody fancy a trip down to the Côte d’Azur? Weekly Flybe flights to Nice have been launched on Saturdays from 24th May until 27th September. Flights are operated by the Q400 and times are as followed:
Depart Jersey 07:15 Arrive Nice 10:30
Depart Nice 10:55 Arrive Jersey 12:15
It is an interesting route choice following on from the winter Geneva flights. Should be good for those looking for a direct summer holiday. The times currently clash with the schedules of the two other based Q400s so possibly one of the Gatwick flights will be removed?
Depart Jersey 07:15 Arrive Nice 10:30
Depart Nice 10:55 Arrive Jersey 12:15
It is an interesting route choice following on from the winter Geneva flights. Should be good for those looking for a direct summer holiday. The times currently clash with the schedules of the two other based Q400s so possibly one of the Gatwick flights will be removed?