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No, you are confusing this with the traditional GCI/JER charter flight which is scheduled to be operated by an ATR (LH5020) and starts on Apr 24.
The equipment change relates to the new seasonal scheduled flight by Lufthansa (LH4938) that starts on Jun 21. Originally it was also to be operated by a Contactair ATR72, but now pops up as an Eurowings (ex Duo) CRJ700.
The equipment change relates to the new seasonal scheduled flight by Lufthansa (LH4938) that starts on Jun 21. Originally it was also to be operated by a Contactair ATR72, but now pops up as an Eurowings (ex Duo) CRJ700.
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Which begs the above question - is this a first for JER? The only UK airline that ever operated a CR7 was Duo - and they did not serve JER. And not a lot of non-UK airlines have served JER regularly since the CR7 was introduced.
This is, by the way, the CRJ700 Series 701 ER performance data:
FAR take-off field length (SL, ISA) at MTOW 5,500 ft
FAR landing field length (SL) at MLW 5,090 ftm
This is, by the way, the CRJ700 Series 701 ER performance data:
FAR take-off field length (SL, ISA) at MTOW 5,500 ft
FAR landing field length (SL) at MLW 5,090 ftm
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A new arrival on Pprune ... please excuse any gross stupidity.
My personal [OK, and selfish] need is JER to USA [IAD]. I can only get realistically to the latter via LHR. I am now well versed in LGW-LHR taxis, and overnight hotels, as I can never make a connection on the same day. The peripheral bills just mount up and up ...
Do you experts ever see a prospect of a viable LHR link, preferably with BA [did I say that?] so I can also get the trans-Atlantic baggage allowance on the x-Channel sector?
My personal [OK, and selfish] need is JER to USA [IAD]. I can only get realistically to the latter via LHR. I am now well versed in LGW-LHR taxis, and overnight hotels, as I can never make a connection on the same day. The peripheral bills just mount up and up ...
Do you experts ever see a prospect of a viable LHR link, preferably with BA [did I say that?] so I can also get the trans-Atlantic baggage allowance on the x-Channel sector?
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JER - IAD, take JER-LGW-PHL and rent a car (if US Airways still operating it), depending where you want to get to around NW Washington/Dulles, its not a bad drive, have done it a few times.. just avoid the Beltway in the rush hour..
Alternately, connect to IAD or National through BOS.
Or better still... Flybe JER - SOU and rail-air link to LHR, you'd make the last two direct IAD flights out of LHR easilly then, avoid the M25 and the Washington Beltway!
Alternately, connect to IAD or National through BOS.
Or better still... Flybe JER - SOU and rail-air link to LHR, you'd make the last two direct IAD flights out of LHR easilly then, avoid the M25 and the Washington Beltway!
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bmi have a twice daily LHR link from JER
I guess the route varies between the 319 and 320?
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Or Blue Islands to Zurich and then IAD from there. Might be expensive, though! Of course, if you're not paying, why go to Hellrow and let your bags join the other 20000 lost ones when you could enjoy Swiss efficiency?
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I guess the route varies between the 319 and 320?
Its a great service, T1's a lot quieter now BA have moved out.
I can't imagine many problems lost-bags-wise with BD.
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Thanks for the tips, folks. We're fairly regular travellers to IAD ... the difficulty is the way JER sectors keep changing. How long will BMI keep the LHR option going, for a start!
Yes, we're going BMI to LHR outbound in late May. However, return is BA to LHR and then BA LGW-JER. Three weeks' clothing and some shopping tends to cross the baggage limits, and at least that way we get the trans-Atlantic baggage allowance on the x-Channel sector.
I'll take a look at some of those other options, although we were hoping to avoid either internal airline changes in USA, or a lengthy drive after a day or so travelling. At least IAD is just 45 minutes from where I'm headed, even with beltway traffic!!
Yes, we're going BMI to LHR outbound in late May. However, return is BA to LHR and then BA LGW-JER. Three weeks' clothing and some shopping tends to cross the baggage limits, and at least that way we get the trans-Atlantic baggage allowance on the x-Channel sector.
I'll take a look at some of those other options, although we were hoping to avoid either internal airline changes in USA, or a lengthy drive after a day or so travelling. At least IAD is just 45 minutes from where I'm headed, even with beltway traffic!!
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If the stories are true, and Virgin is planning to take over BMI, would you experts visualise the current BMI hop to LHR being re-scheduled [as a VS sector] to allow pax to connect with the morning VS flights to USA?
Surely there would be demand from the Finance community for such a connection?
Surely there would be demand from the Finance community for such a connection?
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If this goes ahead - and Branson clearly wants it to happen - I would have concerns for the future of all BD short haul routes from LHR; RB isn't interested in the A319/320/ERJ routes - he wants the slots.
Unless the UK govt does something (unlikely?), that would be a seriously bad development for JER. The best hope we would have is that by the time the 3 yr BD contract expires (2010), Mixed Mode would be in use at LHR which would hopefully protect some of the short haul slots.
New route from JER: Summer charter with VLM to Manston, Saturdays:
http://www.kentinternationalairport-...yRoute0804.asp
(Well, I had to avoid their tiny error in calling it a "New Jersey" route ...)
Unless the UK govt does something (unlikely?), that would be a seriously bad development for JER. The best hope we would have is that by the time the 3 yr BD contract expires (2010), Mixed Mode would be in use at LHR which would hopefully protect some of the short haul slots.
New route from JER: Summer charter with VLM to Manston, Saturdays:
http://www.kentinternationalairport-...yRoute0804.asp
(Well, I had to avoid their tiny error in calling it a "New Jersey" route ...
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Flybe Contemplate JER-LGW frequency Increase
Flybe records 25% increase in demand for Jersey- London Gatwick service
16 May 2008
Flybe, Europe’s largest regional low cost airline, reports unprecedented demand for seats on its popular Jersey – London Gatwick service with advanced summer seat sales having increased by 25% over 2007.
Mike Rutter, Flybe’s Chief Commercial Officer says: “We have been absolutely bowled over by the demand on this key route. Our decision to offer Islanders the opportunity to fly to London on our brand new 118-seat state of the art Embraer 195 jet aircraft has clearly been welcomed by Islanders wanting to enjoy not only an affordable service but one that is comfortable with spacious 2x2 seating configuration.”
Flybe is also pleased to have had recent recognition for its ‘very good’ punctuality and reliability rating on its London Gatwick service by flightstats.com, an online information portal now adopted by Jersey Airport as a measure for airline performance.
“We are committed to serving the Island community by providing the most affordable and convenient service on this route,” adds Mr Rutter. “It is one we recognise as being of strategic importance to both business and leisure travellers. As a result, we are considering increasing our daily schedule with the addition of another two flights, especially at the beginning and end of the day. With this end in view we are exploring whether slots would be available to take the service to eight a day.”
16 May 2008
Flybe, Europe’s largest regional low cost airline, reports unprecedented demand for seats on its popular Jersey – London Gatwick service with advanced summer seat sales having increased by 25% over 2007.
Mike Rutter, Flybe’s Chief Commercial Officer says: “We have been absolutely bowled over by the demand on this key route. Our decision to offer Islanders the opportunity to fly to London on our brand new 118-seat state of the art Embraer 195 jet aircraft has clearly been welcomed by Islanders wanting to enjoy not only an affordable service but one that is comfortable with spacious 2x2 seating configuration.”
Flybe is also pleased to have had recent recognition for its ‘very good’ punctuality and reliability rating on its London Gatwick service by flightstats.com, an online information portal now adopted by Jersey Airport as a measure for airline performance.
“We are committed to serving the Island community by providing the most affordable and convenient service on this route,” adds Mr Rutter. “It is one we recognise as being of strategic importance to both business and leisure travellers. As a result, we are considering increasing our daily schedule with the addition of another two flights, especially at the beginning and end of the day. With this end in view we are exploring whether slots would be available to take the service to eight a day.”
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Hmmm I was under the impression that pax numbers had fallen on this route...........How many more services do they intend to add as they operate 6 services each weekday as it is.
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Just wondering if this announcement is a prelude to the announcement of a joint BE/BA operation; BE can increase its operations ... if BA were to cut its flights altogether, as has been rumoured ...
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A Matter Of Time?
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Spoke to a good source on Thursday about the winter schedules for B.A. Jersey to Gatwick.
The person said it will be a mix of B737 and Airbus aircraft.
The mix I am lead to beleave is due to the smaller B737 500s will be gone shortly.
Although with Flybe trying to add more Jersey to Gatwick does seem to show they are trying to get B.A. off the route?
On the other hand B.A. might not hand over the route until they are sattisfied Flybe can cope?.
As we know there is another carrier in the back ground that would step in if there is only Flybe on the route.
We will have to wait and see on this on how the winter pans out for the route.
Spoke to a good source on Thursday about the winter schedules for B.A. Jersey to Gatwick.
The person said it will be a mix of B737 and Airbus aircraft.
The mix I am lead to beleave is due to the smaller B737 500s will be gone shortly.
Although with Flybe trying to add more Jersey to Gatwick does seem to show they are trying to get B.A. off the route?
On the other hand B.A. might not hand over the route until they are sattisfied Flybe can cope?.
As we know there is another carrier in the back ground that would step in if there is only Flybe on the route.
We will have to wait and see on this on how the winter pans out for the route.
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At present Jersey is the top performing short haul route bar a couple of LHR routes (GVA and CDG) spring to mind in terms of volume. It is also the biggest route at LGW in terms of Club Europe pax by a mile. The reduction in numbers in the Club cabin was partly due to an agreement between ops and rev man to peg the max divider at 30 due to the short flying time and the need for additional crew which offset the revenue gained.
We have consistantly grown the market share at the expense of BE and the load factor is also up vly (although admittedly this is partly due to the decrease in capacity). These figures are freely distributed between all carriers between here and London and are there for all to see.
There is catagorically no intention to hand over the route to BE at any time in the forseeable future.
It is correct that JER will recieve a mix of 735's and busses over the coming winter, which will increase to 90% Bus by the start of next summer.
We have consistantly grown the market share at the expense of BE and the load factor is also up vly (although admittedly this is partly due to the decrease in capacity). These figures are freely distributed between all carriers between here and London and are there for all to see.
There is catagorically no intention to hand over the route to BE at any time in the forseeable future.
It is correct that JER will recieve a mix of 735's and busses over the coming winter, which will increase to 90% Bus by the start of next summer.
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Good to hear JER doing well for BA.
I guess the one question I'd have is whether the groundings recently hinted at by WW might have an effect on the 735 fleet; if, as I suspect, the 735 is one of the first fleets to be cut back, then JER could see 319s sooner?
I guess the one question I'd have is whether the groundings recently hinted at by WW might have an effect on the 735 fleet; if, as I suspect, the 735 is one of the first fleets to be cut back, then JER could see 319s sooner?