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If the 328 is Jersey-based it means that at least the Jersey-Switzerland flight can go if the weather precludes landing from Guernsey first.
It also reduces the need to position crew across from Guernsey to crew-change in the middle of the day.
It also reduces the need to position crew across from Guernsey to crew-change in the middle of the day.
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JER-LGW is a 6 (soon to be 5) daily route. It's well known that JER-LGW is one of the most profitable shorthaul routes BA has (25 in C on a 735 is not uncommon). Plus many many Gold card holders, and a few Premiums fly ex-JER often.
Its worth remembering that the VG 3xdaily JER-LCY service failed and is now operating just once daily (I would think even this is in doubt with the acquisition by AF-KL)
Whilst I'm fairly sure an LCY route would prove fairly popular (with BA, unlike VG)... would there be sufficient slots at LCY to give a similar sort of service? I doubt it, especially during the early morning and evening time periods. I for one think that many passengers would be driven to the BE (E195) services or the BD LHR services (not necessaraly a bad thing as I'm a big supporter of BD).
If a BA JER-LCY service does commence, I would think that they would be in compliment with the LGW flights; if anything it would be to test the water.
I stand to be corrected with the slot issues at LCY, but the LGW figures are still doing extremely well against the new 6xdaily BE services, and I'm pretty sure that JER-LGW is still a good money spinner for BA.
It depends on who you believe but there are many rumours of expansion or reduction of BA services from LGW. But BA are still keen to serve JER... trust me.
Its worth remembering that the VG 3xdaily JER-LCY service failed and is now operating just once daily (I would think even this is in doubt with the acquisition by AF-KL)
Whilst I'm fairly sure an LCY route would prove fairly popular (with BA, unlike VG)... would there be sufficient slots at LCY to give a similar sort of service? I doubt it, especially during the early morning and evening time periods. I for one think that many passengers would be driven to the BE (E195) services or the BD LHR services (not necessaraly a bad thing as I'm a big supporter of BD).
If a BA JER-LCY service does commence, I would think that they would be in compliment with the LGW flights; if anything it would be to test the water.
I stand to be corrected with the slot issues at LCY, but the LGW figures are still doing extremely well against the new 6xdaily BE services, and I'm pretty sure that JER-LGW is still a good money spinner for BA.
It depends on who you believe but there are many rumours of expansion or reduction of BA services from LGW. But BA are still keen to serve JER... trust me.
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Work this out
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When Flybe took over B.A.Connect last year in the deal B.A. had 15% shares in Flybe.
There is talk about Flybe and B.A. code share on the Gatwick Service if this is correct why operate the service along side?
There is talk as well that Flybe will be moveing to the North Terminal at Gatwick, why would they do that closer working with B.A. as per code share.
With B.A Boeing 737s being returned to the leaser or passed on the Airbus would be the aircraft to replace them, there has been mutterings some while ago about the Airbus operating the Jersey route but that has gone very quite so might not happen.
So what will be the outcomes we will have to wait and see on all this.
When Flybe took over B.A.Connect last year in the deal B.A. had 15% shares in Flybe.
There is talk about Flybe and B.A. code share on the Gatwick Service if this is correct why operate the service along side?
There is talk as well that Flybe will be moveing to the North Terminal at Gatwick, why would they do that closer working with B.A. as per code share.
With B.A Boeing 737s being returned to the leaser or passed on the Airbus would be the aircraft to replace them, there has been mutterings some while ago about the Airbus operating the Jersey route but that has gone very quite so might not happen.
So what will be the outcomes we will have to wait and see on all this.
jerboy....
The amount of gold and premier cardholders in JER is irrelevant to the continuation of a service - just look at JER-LHR. BA dropped that pretty smartish, and i don't think for a second that these frequent fliers prefer LGW....
BA might well remain committed to LGW, i doubt it though. They had the opportunity to expand there recently with the acquisition of GB routes but didn't opting to drop a few routes to make space instead. And there were plenty of slots & a/c available to do so if they wished.
With the demise of the BA regions, the end of franchises, the opening of T5, the beginnings of an ambitious point to point operation (open skies), the movement of long haul services to LHR, where do you see LGW fitting in? 90% of its operation is short haul that is a long way from profitability...
JER-LGW by easy by next summer.... watch this space
The amount of gold and premier cardholders in JER is irrelevant to the continuation of a service - just look at JER-LHR. BA dropped that pretty smartish, and i don't think for a second that these frequent fliers prefer LGW....
BA might well remain committed to LGW, i doubt it though. They had the opportunity to expand there recently with the acquisition of GB routes but didn't opting to drop a few routes to make space instead. And there were plenty of slots & a/c available to do so if they wished.
With the demise of the BA regions, the end of franchises, the opening of T5, the beginnings of an ambitious point to point operation (open skies), the movement of long haul services to LHR, where do you see LGW fitting in? 90% of its operation is short haul that is a long way from profitability...
JER-LGW by easy by next summer.... watch this space
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Blue Islands to DUB ...
Blue Islands will be starting a DUB service with the Summer season: thrice weekly (Mo, We and Fri).
Dep JER 0800 Arr DUB 1030 (via IOM)
Dep DUB 1055 Arr JER 1225
The service is expected to operate year-round.
Dep JER 0800 Arr DUB 1030 (via IOM)
Dep DUB 1055 Arr JER 1225
The service is expected to operate year-round.
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With easyjet's first flt into JER next week (20th) sounds like it is going to be a good press and media affair.
What is the current awareness in JER and with the islanders with regards to easy starting up routes in JER?
Hopefully it is good news to island and everyone is looking forward seeing easy.
What is the current awareness in JER and with the islanders with regards to easy starting up routes in JER?
Hopefully it is good news to island and everyone is looking forward seeing easy.
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Could there be more growth for Jersey?
Ref the new Jersey to Paris service.
How will it operate will this be done by a Jersey based aircraft?
If a Jersey based aircraft, does this mean another aircraft based in Jersey as the two Dash aircraft a fully committed already?
If it is a third aircraft, it does give some slack not only for an aircraft going tech but for more growth?
So can there be more in the pipe line for Jersey.
Are there some more secrets to come out of the Exeter Base for Jersey?
How will it operate will this be done by a Jersey based aircraft?
If a Jersey based aircraft, does this mean another aircraft based in Jersey as the two Dash aircraft a fully committed already?
If it is a third aircraft, it does give some slack not only for an aircraft going tech but for more growth?
So can there be more in the pipe line for Jersey.
Are there some more secrets to come out of the Exeter Base for Jersey?
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I see the Isle of Man flight routes via Newquay in both directions to & from Jersey.
Don't think this will appeal to many with a three hour flight but the base price looks quite good of £90 return for Isle of Man & £70 for Newquay
Don't think this will appeal to many with a three hour flight but the base price looks quite good of £90 return for Isle of Man & £70 for Newquay
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It is good news to see the addition of Paris CDG to the list of new destinations from Jersey. It is beneficial to have an additional air-link to a major hub for connections, business and, of course, tourism for which this new route opens up a relatively undeveloped market for incoming French tourists.
With Easyjet beginning tomorrow, the local authorities have once again shown themselves to be highly proactive in supporting Jersey’s vital air routes.
Looking at the Flybe schedule, I too wonder how the route will be accommodated because the additional Q400 routes to Bristol, Newcastle, and Cardiff etc fully utilise the based aircraft. The same is true for the new Saturday Nice service, which does not fit in with the current based aircraft. It will be interesting to see how it is resolved.
The Twinjet Cherbourg & Orly service, however, looks like it is being dropped as a result.
With Easyjet beginning tomorrow, the local authorities have once again shown themselves to be highly proactive in supporting Jersey’s vital air routes.
Looking at the Flybe schedule, I too wonder how the route will be accommodated because the additional Q400 routes to Bristol, Newcastle, and Cardiff etc fully utilise the based aircraft. The same is true for the new Saturday Nice service, which does not fit in with the current based aircraft. It will be interesting to see how it is resolved.
The Twinjet Cherbourg & Orly service, however, looks like it is being dropped as a result.
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BE still connects with some carriers and I am just wondering if something could be done about this; it would be great if they could do an interline deal with AF. I had hoped that an AF regional partner (well, like Regional or BritAir) might do the route and feed into AF's network at CDG.
Has there been mention of a subsidy for this route? If so, should the States have insisted that there be an interline agreement in place, to ensure that the maximum possible benefit could be derived from it.
Has there been mention of a subsidy for this route? If so, should the States have insisted that there be an interline agreement in place, to ensure that the maximum possible benefit could be derived from it.
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News is that Twin Jet are pulling their JER-CER-ORY service in the near future.
No great loss I suppose, it never really operated with more than 5ish people. They're a strange little airline, surprised they hung around here for so long leaving an a/c sat on the ground all day for so few pax.
Has anyone here actually flown them?
No great loss I suppose, it never really operated with more than 5ish people. They're a strange little airline, surprised they hung around here for so long leaving an a/c sat on the ground all day for so few pax.
Has anyone here actually flown them?
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jerboy,
Twinjet made their money on the CER-ORY sectors where they had a contract to carry workers to the nuclear power station. I believe their 'international airline' status achieved by flying to Jersey was a key part in them been awarded the contract.
I beleive they will continue to operate ORY-CER but the crew and aircraft will slip in Cherbourg for the day
Twinjet made their money on the CER-ORY sectors where they had a contract to carry workers to the nuclear power station. I believe their 'international airline' status achieved by flying to Jersey was a key part in them been awarded the contract.
I beleive they will continue to operate ORY-CER but the crew and aircraft will slip in Cherbourg for the day
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Guernsey lose out?
It does look like the Jersey to Charles Du Gaulle service is being operated by a Norwich based Dash.
So Jersey has an increase on the Norwich at the expense of Guernsey? with Guernsey loseing there Norwich Monday, Wednesday and Friday Norwhich connection but have one on a Saturday.
So Jersey has an increase on the Norwich at the expense of Guernsey? with Guernsey loseing there Norwich Monday, Wednesday and Friday Norwhich connection but have one on a Saturday.
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It is not particularly good to see the Guernsey Norwich flight go from daily last summer to just a weekend flight this year, which is unfortunate for tourism. But it looks like in response to the new CDG route, the Blue Islands Beauvais flight will operate direct from Guernsey both ways. Not really a big loss for Jersey passengers who can still connect on to the flight.
The return Isle of Man flights have also reverted back to a direct routing on the days that Dublin was supposed to operate, which is good for business passengers. Okay, the Dublin route isn't starting, but for passenger convenience the stopover was a problem.
Lufthansa are also using a BAe 146-200 on the schedule Dusseldorf service between July-August, so we haven't lost the aircraft just yet
Gloucester gets an additional Saturday flight too. Another indirect Isle of Man flight, but Gloucester on its own should do well supported by the tour operators.
The return Isle of Man flights have also reverted back to a direct routing on the days that Dublin was supposed to operate, which is good for business passengers. Okay, the Dublin route isn't starting, but for passenger convenience the stopover was a problem.
Lufthansa are also using a BAe 146-200 on the schedule Dusseldorf service between July-August, so we haven't lost the aircraft just yet
Gloucester gets an additional Saturday flight too. Another indirect Isle of Man flight, but Gloucester on its own should do well supported by the tour operators.