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Old 14th Feb 2008, 21:59
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Let's be glad these muppets have gone, and here's hoping that those who worked there who wish to work for a quality air are successfully recruited.

Egnxema

Easier said than done egnxema - I fear that those of us with UKIA on our CV -and we cant hide it because of security requirements and 5 yr refs - will have some stigma to live with for some time......

This was not a superficial burn !!

Good Luck to all anyway.



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Old 15th Feb 2008, 12:23
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here here, ukia had some highly trained proffesional and excellent crew working for them who wanted to make it work but unfortunley backfired on them but im sure will all find work with other airlines!!
Its just makes me wonder how the pks kept on affording to go abroad, when they have no money to pay the staff!!!
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Does anybody know what has happened to the crew so far? Have they successfuly been recruited by any other airlines? I really hope that having UKIA on your CV doesn't affect your chances of being employed! After all from what I hear the crew did a fantastic job at UKIA and committed themselves 100% to get the airline up and running and keep it running! It wasn't their fault that the owners were a bunch of monkies.
Good luck to all of you trying to find new jobs you really do deserve so much better!
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Did they have multi ethnic crew or just from subcontinent or Pakistani origin.
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 06:39
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It's been a week or so now, any further news on this airline?

Cheers

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Old 25th Feb 2008, 11:29
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UKIA

Apparently the owners are still talking to investors. I fail to see how anyone can fall for the stories the owners are telling - Then again, the employees did, I suppose? And, who exactly do they think will work for them now?
Now word has spread I urge no-one currently in employment to give it up for UKIA. The only way is for the owners is to be bought out completely and disappear. Let someone run the airline who knows what it entails.
This guy has spread lies about former employees with their new employers, he doesn't deserve to be a success.
I also hear they have still not paid salaries for Dec 07 and some ex-employees are taking legal action.. The one's that can afford it, off course.
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 17:15
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Well, after speaking to the UKIA 'Management' last week, there completeing a due dilligence process with new investors and they believe that all staff will be paid within two weeks.

Urmmmmmmmmm, have heard that one before!!!!

I think there actually trying to sort this out to start back up!!! More chance of me winning the lottery i think and i dont even play!!!! lol
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 19:27
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UKIA 1st April GDS Dates

Funnily enough the Videcom GDS indicates flights for the 1st April 2008, coming to think of it 1st April they aint going to FOOL me
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 23:45
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Apparently the owners are still talking to investors. I fail to see how anyone can fall for the stories the owners are telling - Then again, the employees did, I suppose? And, who exactly do they think will work for them now?
Now word has spread I urge no-one currently in employment to give it up for UKIA. The only way is for the owners is to be bought out completely and disappear. Let someone run the airline who knows what it entails.
This guy has spread lies about former employees with their new employers, he doesn't deserve to be a success.
I also hear they have still not paid salaries for Dec 07 and some ex-employees are taking legal action.. The one's that can afford it, off course.


WHY is this family so desperate to start an Airline ??

I would have thought that they would have realised that this Industry is not what they have experience of ??

I hope they do start up again, But with little experience of running an Airline, It seems a pointless waste of peoples careers and money.

OK they may have some 'self made' equity but at the end of the day money cannot buy you success in this game.

I think they should leave it a few years, Do their homework first - And don't get everyone excited about nothing
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 06:23
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Unpaid bills since launch are running into millions, aircraft are repossessed, and there are no assets of value. Nearly all postholders have other jobs, the CAA would think twice about un-suspending the AOC for same shareholders.

The best thing that UKIA could do now would be to pay employees in full along with the travel agents and passengers who paid up front - then they can quietly disappear with a at least a modicum of dignity.
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Old 11th Mar 2008, 17:19
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UKIA is unable

I know someone who has been trying to help UKIA but UKIA is not able to do anything. They are financially completely dried up. There are some people who are willing to assist UKIA but UKIA is not able to anything. It seems owners of UKIA are totally incapacitated for anything financially. I wonder do they have enough people to do necessary tasks for restructureing it. Anyone knows inside story about UKIA?
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Old 17th Mar 2008, 16:06
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UKIA

Globepal,

From what I've heard there is a lien on the aircraft sitting at EMA and has been looked at by CAA to ship it out to somewhere for maintenance (?)

Former employees are still fighting for salaries owed, and the owner wants to start again?! Ha! He was looking for investors but that seems to have died a death now. Guess the possible investors have been finding out about them and thought better of it. Smart move.

Some fools are still hanging on the guy's everyword and sticking around. They are the ones that cannot find a job elswhere...?
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Old 17th Mar 2008, 19:21
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Regarding some recently removed posts, there is a fine line between rumour and libel. Lets keep the statements of 'fact' provable and indentify rumours as rumours.
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Old 17th Mar 2008, 22:01
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why people are critizise UKIA all the time

i simply dont understand why most of the people critisize on ukia all the time , i know they have failed to pay the salries but did any body asked why this thing happened to a new carrier who provide the jobs to those people who are jobless at that time with no expereince in the aviation industry. if they done some thing wrong not delibretly cant we support them dont assume that iam favouring ukia people as a general reader i always think that can we help them in this difficult time if we cant help them financialy we can give them a moral support just put your self in their show and think what they are facing these days friends we belong to the same industry come on let give the moral support so they can stand on their feet again they have invest so much ( as we all know starting an airline in first world is not an easy task ) if they have done something for the people lets support them its enough critisisom now how much we critisize them now .. its time to give them a support from this industry so we have better oppurtunities to work ...
please this is my humble request lets forget and forgive everything and start giving them support
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Old 17th Mar 2008, 22:59
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why people are critizise UKIA all the time



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Old 18th Mar 2008, 09:08
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AOC issue

Just a thought. UKIA got their AOC last October to do that they had to comply with EU regulation and CAA regs on finnacial fitness. Basicaly they had to have sufficent cash to operate for the first three months with nil income and then have a robust business plan to operate for the first two years also the CAA set the level of capitalisation normally requiring a cash buffer in the account during that two years. One wonders what then has gone wrong?

Have a look at the CAA web site under consumer protection then Airline licensing.
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 11:17
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failed buisness plan

absolutely agreed that they are financially burst there is a reason which i come to know that there GSA,s whih they appoint has not paid them on time most of them stopped the payment and above all being a new entrant they have no credit facility available from the suppliers being alone funding the airline with his own money he paid all his suppliers in order to avoid the suspend of the operation but being an aviators we all know without the investment back it will be a problem thats the reason now they have suspended the operation and looking for invester to start again. if the owners are shady character they can easily declare bank currapcy being a ltd company and go home but they still want to start the airlie again as there so many people still on the payroll who are working there becuase of thiose people they want to get some investment to start thats is the best part of the owners i like that they the spirit to stand again we should support them on this instead of critise on them we should give them our expertise to start again being a aviation people we need more airline will come and provide better oppurtunities to the aviation industry
i believe every body needs a better opportunity and if UKIA will start again nd provide us the better future why cant we moraly support them
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 16:31
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Surely the CAA should then shoulder some responsibilty for allowing these wanabees to start up. Is there likely to be an investigation into how the CAA allowed such muppets are allowed "to play" airlines?

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Old 18th Mar 2008, 16:33
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What???

I cant believe what Im reading, David007 you are obviously someone who still works there and the more I read what you have wrote the more I think you are the owner himself!
How on this earth do you expect people to forgive and forget what UKIA has done to them?
If the management could see what was happening to UKIA then why didn't they ground the operation earlier and pay everyone up to date???
I really do feel for the ex employees of UKIA and to ask for forgiveness and support is just another slap in the face. Pay everyone what they are owed and then ask for forgiveness, or if you have no money then do the right thing and declare yourselves bloody bankrupt! At least the employees may get a little bit off the government, instead of being given false hopes and fake promises of payment.
UKIA will NEVER EVER get off the ground again and they dont deserve to either.

So no....no support from me

And as for the people still at head office- open your eyes and wake up!
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 16:59
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...and the PPRUNE annual award for the longest sentence without any punctuation goes to............David007

Spel Cheque wud bee nice two. It wouldn't make your argument anymore credible, but it might make it easier to read.

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