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Thank you for your PM's and your concerns to post correctly.
As I said, names are not allowed. If they are on a website that does not mean they allowed on the forum.
I also think you have to positively ascertain which is criminal action and which is civil action. Tax fraud is a matter for the tax office who will if needed take action. They just have to be informed.
Thanks again for taking care.
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As I said, names are not allowed. If they are on a website that does not mean they allowed on the forum.
I also think you have to positively ascertain which is criminal action and which is civil action. Tax fraud is a matter for the tax office who will if needed take action. They just have to be informed.
Thanks again for taking care.
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Close to the mark
Interesting thread and thanks to Prune Mods for keeping it alive - we are sure its gonna be worth the effort.
Good post Ms Richterscale and well accurate, there are some other posts wich are also closer to being accurate than they might seem. Miss Muff Flaps for example, she was close to the mark too (curious name though)
Good post Ms Richterscale and well accurate, there are some other posts wich are also closer to being accurate than they might seem. Miss Muff Flaps for example, she was close to the mark too (curious name though)
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UKIA again!
Quality posting from all - some interesting thoughts from Mike21 - Who was obviously not involved. This is a sad state of affairs for all the people that have been dragged into this debarcle. I hear that the owner, when interviewing all these people from aviation -(as HE clearly isn't) promised he had money and would not jeopardise anyone's future...ha. He certainly sold the idea from his furniture shop somehow, hence why everyone joined but I feel sorry for the people who can't pay their bills and have not been paid since Nov, bet you all had a great Christmas?!
So well done to the owner
, he succeeded in sucking many experienced people in, when there were many doubts surrounding the operation.
In the meantime has anyone got any ideas how all the ex-employees can get their money?? as no-one has had any success so far!!!
Good Luck to everyone involved with UKIA, I'm sure you will all find jobs elsewhere
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So well done to the owner
, he succeeded in sucking many experienced people in, when there were many doubts surrounding the operation.In the meantime has anyone got any ideas how all the ex-employees can get their money?? as no-one has had any success so far!!!
Good Luck to everyone involved with UKIA, I'm sure you will all find jobs elsewhere
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There is a lot of speculation and comments been thrown at UKIA and can i say by some people who aint even anything to do with UKIA
UKIA has let his crew and flight deck down badly, and by us all posting these comments i hope people realise that this company is best avoided at all cost
At the interview we were promised a number of things as every new airline does, but i wonder how can a new start after 3 months colapse so quickly, i think the we have to point the finger at the owner , i know as i flew with his nephew that he/has signed over half his properties to his relatives and is basically trying everything in his will to not to be associated with UKIA anymore,
I feel for the crew and everyone who worked there, basically we aint gonna see no money, never ever and if we do it would be a god send, maybe on this account we have to write it off and put it down to a BAD BAD BAD BAD mistake
Wishing all the crew and FD all the best for the future, some good people who worked there, THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
UKIA has let his crew and flight deck down badly, and by us all posting these comments i hope people realise that this company is best avoided at all cost
At the interview we were promised a number of things as every new airline does, but i wonder how can a new start after 3 months colapse so quickly, i think the we have to point the finger at the owner , i know as i flew with his nephew that he/has signed over half his properties to his relatives and is basically trying everything in his will to not to be associated with UKIA anymore,
I feel for the crew and everyone who worked there, basically we aint gonna see no money, never ever and if we do it would be a god send, maybe on this account we have to write it off and put it down to a BAD BAD BAD BAD mistake
Wishing all the crew and FD all the best for the future, some good people who worked there, THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
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phishpood - au contraire - (that how you spell it?) I think you will find that Mike 21 was VERY much involved...... Eh Mike??
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They can't legally terminate your employment without having told you. If the e-mail notification has been sent today, then they would be obliged to pay you up and including today, not the 18th. Good luck.
Your notice period will be defined in your contract and may depend on how long you've been with the company. [I'm assuming that they had given you a contract!] If none is specified, then I think the statutory minimum is one week's notice period as you would have been employed for more than a month but less than two years. If your contract says it is longer, then the longer period would apply. Do a quick search on the terms "UK minimum notice period" and it should bring up the government advice page with the hard info that you need.
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Hi guys and girls,
A sorry predicament, been there before myself, hope you all find your feet very soon indeed.
I believe you are entitled to lodge a claim for all legitimate monies owed to you, wages, agreed notice period, per diems, accrued holiday pay, over-time and (god forbid) out of pocket business expenses while employed.
With the exception of wages (as the e-mail says you will be paid) I believe you will be unsecured creditors for the remainder.
My apologies to phrase it like this, but it was a whole lot more clear cut the last time it happened to me, the company bigger and the terms of service much longer.
Entitlement to the Government schemes is strictly governed, most not applicable until 2 years continuous service.
However:
http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/pdfs/gu...remployees.pdf
Does state, redundancy notice pay from 1 weeks service, if I interpret it correctly
Protected award for lack of consultation:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/employment/emp...page13852.html
Read them through and ring the departments for clarification.
Little consolation, but I found the Government Agencies responsible most helpful in the past.
Also, as I said before, I am not an authority on this, only through past experience. Anyone please feel free to correct me if I am misleading folks here in my attempts to help out.
Good luck and happy job hunting
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A sorry predicament, been there before myself, hope you all find your feet very soon indeed.
I believe you are entitled to lodge a claim for all legitimate monies owed to you, wages, agreed notice period, per diems, accrued holiday pay, over-time and (god forbid) out of pocket business expenses while employed.
With the exception of wages (as the e-mail says you will be paid) I believe you will be unsecured creditors for the remainder.
My apologies to phrase it like this, but it was a whole lot more clear cut the last time it happened to me, the company bigger and the terms of service much longer.
Entitlement to the Government schemes is strictly governed, most not applicable until 2 years continuous service.
However:
http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/pdfs/gu...remployees.pdf
Does state, redundancy notice pay from 1 weeks service, if I interpret it correctly
Protected award for lack of consultation:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/employment/emp...page13852.html
Read them through and ring the departments for clarification.
Little consolation, but I found the Government Agencies responsible most helpful in the past.
Also, as I said before, I am not an authority on this, only through past experience. Anyone please feel free to correct me if I am misleading folks here in my attempts to help out.
Good luck and happy job hunting
Bored
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well i cant beleive its gone bust sucha good honest company to work for, who woulda thought ali would **** on his own hey. so much for blending cultures hey. they only look after themselves.
on a good note av met some wicked people who i'll continue to stay intouch with, we had some good times in dubai and in sharjah. but all good things come to an end.
on a good note av met some wicked people who i'll continue to stay intouch with, we had some good times in dubai and in sharjah. but all good things come to an end.
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I have read all your replies and GINKO after you published the letter that you say UKIA sent you well maybe it is the best way. a True proffesional like you will get a job anywhere
By the way I had my own business as well in the past and i can only say from a Pro point of view AFTER READING ALL I think they UKIA definately had a bad bunch of employees.
Mike 21 Go take a hike for a few days with a foolish comment like that. Hogg
By the way I had my own business as well in the past and i can only say from a Pro point of view AFTER READING ALL I think they UKIA definately had a bad bunch of employees.
Mike 21 Go take a hike for a few days with a foolish comment like that. Hogg
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Mike21,
I take serious offence at your last post, The staff at UKIA were amongst some of the most respected in the industry and I considered it an honour to work alongside them.
As for the email Ginko says was apparently sent by UKIA i can confirm it WAS sent as i received one to.
You are obvioulsy someone who smiles and laughs at others misfortune or someone who has absolutley no idea wht he is talking about, or worse still both.
I advise you show a little more restraint as aviation is a small world and it is possible you may find yourself bumping into us 'bunch of bad employees' who may have an impact on any of your future career moves, or if you continue to aimlessly ramble on it could be lack of career moves.
Show a little to respect to fellow PROFESSIONALS in wht is a very trying time for us all.
I take serious offence at your last post, The staff at UKIA were amongst some of the most respected in the industry and I considered it an honour to work alongside them.
As for the email Ginko says was apparently sent by UKIA i can confirm it WAS sent as i received one to.
You are obvioulsy someone who smiles and laughs at others misfortune or someone who has absolutley no idea wht he is talking about, or worse still both.
I advise you show a little more restraint as aviation is a small world and it is possible you may find yourself bumping into us 'bunch of bad employees' who may have an impact on any of your future career moves, or if you continue to aimlessly ramble on it could be lack of career moves.
Show a little to respect to fellow PROFESSIONALS in wht is a very trying time for us all.
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Mike21, I echo what The Highlander says - that is out of order. 
Unfortunatley, some less experienced people will have been hurt by this too, some of them will be put off aviation for life which is a shame. It is a small world and you never know who you will bump into and where. Friends made in aviation generally stay friends -(Although there are one or two exceptions!!!!)
Yes, there were initial signs of this, but if you don't try you never know do you? To be involved in a start-up and to gain an AOC, operate charters and then a scheduled operation with less than minimum resources is some achievement (before the money ran out). Give the 'bad employees' some credit, Mike21.
It wasn't the employees that let the owners down, it's the other way round.
To be emailed with termination of contract just shows how unprofessional these people are - complete lack of respect for what was achieved by some excellent people who devoted their entire lives to trying to make this a success. And, all this after a meeting was held where the owners discussed their plans for new staff and aircraft - These people are
Best of Luck to all of the 'good employees' from UKIA - no doubt we'll meet again soon, somewhere!
Unfortunatley, some less experienced people will have been hurt by this too, some of them will be put off aviation for life which is a shame. It is a small world and you never know who you will bump into and where. Friends made in aviation generally stay friends -(Although there are one or two exceptions!!!!)
Yes, there were initial signs of this, but if you don't try you never know do you? To be involved in a start-up and to gain an AOC, operate charters and then a scheduled operation with less than minimum resources is some achievement (before the money ran out). Give the 'bad employees' some credit, Mike21.
It wasn't the employees that let the owners down, it's the other way round.
To be emailed with termination of contract just shows how unprofessional these people are - complete lack of respect for what was achieved by some excellent people who devoted their entire lives to trying to make this a success. And, all this after a meeting was held where the owners discussed their plans for new staff and aircraft - These people are
Best of Luck to all of the 'good employees' from UKIA - no doubt we'll meet again soon, somewhere!
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Mike 21
As I said before and saying it again, either you are one of the owner or associate and you have proved it by making all the shameless post.
I can tell you one thing for sure that ‘with this attitude you can’t even run corner shop’. By the way all professional who were working for ukia are already out there and doing well
. I have no doubt that UKIA owners will pay for there deeds one way or the other. What goes around comes around!!! Be prepared for it
As I said before and saying it again, either you are one of the owner or associate and you have proved it by making all the shameless post.
I can tell you one thing for sure that ‘with this attitude you can’t even run corner shop’. By the way all professional who were working for ukia are already out there and doing well
. I have no doubt that UKIA owners will pay for there deeds one way or the other. What goes around comes around!!! Be prepared for it