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Mr Tinkler pointed out that the group also owns London Southend Airport and flies almost two million people to Dublin from their under franchise agreements with Aer Lingus and Flybe.

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rowly - please don't take my post personally - I know you're just posting an article from the Beeb. A journalist from the Beeb should be capable of doing a bit of background research before effectively recycling a press release
Stobart are opening routes from Southend to both Manchester and Glasgow at the end of October 2017.
I have 3 questions about this plan for a London-Carlisle passenger route.
1 - At which London airport will it land ?
2 - Which airline will be doing the flying ?
3 - Which company or organisation will take commercial responsibility for any possible losses ?
The spotter in me would really like to see a regular London-Carlisle route start up, but the realist side of me is unable to find viable commercial solutions. Of course, others on here are probably far more familiar with Stobart and Carlisle so I happily defer to their wisdom
However, until there's a clear and credible commercially-viable answer to each of these questions, I'm pretty dubious about the whole scheme
Stobart are opening routes from Southend to both Manchester and Glasgow at the end of October 2017.
I have 3 questions about this plan for a London-Carlisle passenger route.
1 - At which London airport will it land ?
2 - Which airline will be doing the flying ?
3 - Which company or organisation will take commercial responsibility for any possible losses ?
The spotter in me would really like to see a regular London-Carlisle route start up, but the realist side of me is unable to find viable commercial solutions. Of course, others on here are probably far more familiar with Stobart and Carlisle so I happily defer to their wisdom
However, until there's a clear and credible commercially-viable answer to each of these questions, I'm pretty dubious about the whole scheme
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No offence taken, I thought that with the money now being released that we may see some action on the ground so to speak.
I have always thought that any airline willing to try from CAX would have to be brave and have deep pockets, but what do I know.
No offence taken, I thought that with the money now being released that we may see some action on the ground so to speak.
I have always thought that any airline willing to try from CAX would have to be brave and have deep pockets, but what do I know.

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DUB would probably do just fine IMO, though I'm more sceptical about Belfast. Citywing (RIP) via IOM would probably have been a better fit. London is a waste of time, though with the route fund subsidy Stobart will still be laughing if it's fresh air they're flying around.
Is it worth the investment for 40-odd pax per day on the one sustainable route? Definitely not.
Is it worth the investment for 40-odd pax per day on the one sustainable route? Definitely not.

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It will pick up a few price sensitive business travellers on the assumption the flight is cheaper than the train at short notice. A few people will use it to access the Lake District. And that's about it, I can't see there are many people needing to travel between Essex and Carlisle or vv this will benefit.

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Stranger things have happened, MAN took the lead up north handling the passengers in tents whilst LPL got left behind fannying around building an art deco terminal building.
