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Old 16th May 2016, 13:31
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Scheduled passenger flights from Carlisle Airport will be operating by this time next year, Stobart Group chief Andrew Tinkler has pledged.

Chancellor George Osborne announced in his Autumn Statement that proposed routes from Carlisle to London Southend, Dublin and Belfast would receive a start-up subsidy from the Government’s Regional Air Connectivity Fund.

Mr Tinkler revealed that Stobart would also receive grant funding towards runway improvements, which must be completed before scheduled passenger services can start.

He said: “Our aim is to carry out those works and get it up to Civil Aviation Authority standards this summer, and have the airport ready for scheduled flights by October.

“We might start them then but it may be better to wait until the spring, given that it takes time to sell airline seats. We will see how it goes.”

He was speaking after Stobart Group, which owns the airport, posted healthy pre-tax profits of £10 million for the year to April.

The company completed a freight distribution centre at Carlisle Airport last summer and then agreed a sale and lease back deal on the property for £16.9m. The bulk of the 315,000sq ft freight distribution centre is sub-let to haulier Eddie Stobart.

Stobart Group’s plan for scheduled flights would see twice daily services to Southend, which is less than an hour from central London by train, and one flight per day to both Belfast and Dublin, the latter with onward connections to the US.

The flights would be operated by Stobart Air, in which Stobart Group holds a 45 per cent stake. Mr Tinkler added that the proposals for flights from Carlisle would not be affected by recent management changes at Stobart Air.

He had to take over as chairman of the airline last month following the sudden departure of former Ryanair executive Tim Jeans after only six months in the role.

Then last week it emerged that chief executive Sean Brogan was quitting after his plan to lead a management buy out was rejected.

Stobart Air, which operates Aer Lingus Regional services under a franchise agreement, carried 1.4m passengers in 2015-16.
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Old 16th May 2016, 13:43
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All sounds like good news.
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Old 16th May 2016, 23:40
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Sounds good but it's easy to make encouraging noises. Believe it when I see it...
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Old 17th May 2016, 07:57
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He said that this time last year...
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Old 17th May 2016, 11:28
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Sounds like bad news to me. Let Stobart run their service if they feel there is money to be made but the money to be made seems to be from the UK taxpayer.

The only reason the service to Southend will be made is that they have fingers in all three pies.
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Old 18th May 2016, 01:07
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I would love to see this work but if Teesside, with its much more populous catchment area, can't sustain services to any of those three destinations I'd be amazed if Carlisle can. The best chance is Southend, because of the longer rail journey time from Carlisle to London compared to that from Teesside. Belfast and Dublin though? Can't see it I'm afraid.
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Old 18th May 2016, 12:33
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There are multiple trains per hour from Carlisle to Euston. The faster services do it in less than three and a half hours. These are massive people movers, routinely 9 or 11 carriages. I don't know what niche would be served by a prop service to Southend.
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Old 18th May 2016, 18:11
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Maybe they will use it when on company business at the airport to save sending people from HQ in Carlisle in hire cars.
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Old 18th May 2016, 19:04
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There is a classic illness of people who run airlines, namely thinking that running an airline with lots of planes to lots of places is a proof of one's masculinity. Stobart shareholders will prefer management do not succumb to this disease.

Disclaimer - Secretly I really hope this route comes to fruition so I can fly from Carlisle once in my life; once I've bagged that flight my conflict of interest will end and I'll be able to give just my professional opinion that the route is commercially bonkers.

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Old 18th May 2016, 19:15
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Perhaps they'll use it to ship south all the money they've made from the logistics centre - remind me, how did they swing the planning permission on that?
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Old 30th Jun 2016, 20:44
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Now that it seems Cityjet and Stobart Air (i.e. the airline, not the airport) will likely merge, does Carlisle have any chance of seeing scheduled commercial passenger flights ?
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Old 30th Jun 2016, 21:01
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Any chance went when permission for the distribution centre was agreed.
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He said: “Our aim is to carry out those works and get it up to Civil Aviation Authority standards this summer, and have the airport ready for scheduled flights by October.

“We might start them then but it may be better to wait until the spring, given that it takes time to sell airline seats. We will see how it goes.”

He was speaking after Stobart Group, which owns the airport, posted healthy pre-tax profits of £10 million for the year to April.


Any news on whether the runway work has started?


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Old 30th Jul 2016, 11:00
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Old 1st Aug 2016, 12:31
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I was flying out of Carlisle over the weekend and no sign of any work on the runways.
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Hi all

Any local supporters care to update on developments,plans,hopes etc?

Been really quiet on here since Stobbarts "had their wishes granted" !!
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Old 11th Jan 2017, 18:40
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The new warehouses are looking very nice!
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Nowt in local rags or news
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Old 11th Jan 2017, 19:03
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Their main focus is SEN at the moment so it will be a while before they get around to dealing with Carlisle.
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So how long have they got to implement the govt funding to SEN, DUB, BFS?
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