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Old 27th Jun 2006, 13:49
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Grrr

Is this news, I honestly cannot remember if this has been released before:

Wizz Air Ltd., a low-cost carrier in eastern Europe, said it will add 28 flights a week between three Romanian cities and five western European destinations including London and Rome next month and in January 2007. Closely held Wizz Air, which has bases in Hungary and Poland, will inaugurate its first Romanian destination July 14, with three weekly flights between Budapest and Tirgu Mures (Marosvásárhely) in central Romania, the company said today in an e-mailed statement. Wizz Air will introduce most of its flights to and from Bucharest and Arad, Romania, as well as Tirgu Mures, on Jan. 15, 2007. Romania is hoping to join the European Union that month. Romania is becoming increasingly attractive to low-cost airlines as hundreds of thousands of its workers are seeking fast and cheap transportation to EU-member countries such as Spain, Italy and Germany. Romania, a nation of 22 million, will have to fully comply with European Union airline industry competition rules once it joins the EU. The other destinations Wizz Air plans to add are Barcelona, Spain, Rome, Milan, London and Dortmund, Germany. Most destinations are served by three flights a week, while there will be four flights a week between Bucharest and Rome, Wizz Air said. In Romania, Wizz Air's main competitors besides Romanian national carrier Tarom SA and other international airlines flying to the country are low-cost carriers such as closely held Romanian carrier Blue Air and SkyEurope Airlines AS. MALÉV for example started flights to some Romanian destinations this year, such as Tirgu Mures and Cluj Napoca (Kolozsvár), but they have also got flights to Bucharest and Constanta. (Bloomberg, MALÉV)
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Had been rumoured last month. Wizz will start thrice weekly flights between Luton & Bucharest on 16 Jan 07. Expected to go 5 x weekly from end of Mar 07.

Also, despite Aer Arran saying the LTN-IOM service was to finish on the 1 Oct for the winter, it now seems to have a daily evening flight in the booking engine throughout the winter period, for this route.

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Old 27th Jun 2006, 16:49
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Originally Posted by Powerjet1
The area which had new tarmac laid and was being worked on last night, extended from the front, ie, by the predestrian walkway/screen, to about 60/70 yds into the carpark. My initial impression was perhaps the area was going to used as an additional drop-off zone or some other improvement to increase traffic flow in the CTA, but now i'm not so sure. Infact, it looked just like a simple new tarmac layer onto what was the disabled parking area. It may be just that simple, who knows?.
Seeing that the runway has now been resurfaced the resurfacing gang have turned their night shift attention to the short-term car park. They will also resurface a small strip in the staff car park before the end of the month.

It is ironic after years of moaning about the state of the short term car park I am now disappointed to see it being resurfaced as it does not look like a new apron will be built here. It might just be the case that as the guys are getting paid anyway they might as well do something particularly if there is surplus material.

Someone here must know what is going on???
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Old 27th Jun 2006, 22:06
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Hardly surprising LTNman, what kicks off at 16:00 local on Saturday?
I don't know, Buster - what does?

I'm not being deliberately obtuse, since the World Cup and Wimbeldon are already running, I really have no idea what starts on Saturday?
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Old 27th Jun 2006, 22:37
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intersection dpeartures

Having avidly watched LTN traffic for years, I am amazed at the number of inersection departures from 08/bravo. Never seen it before yet in my last 2 visits seen, Easy 733s, 73NGs, and FR 738s doing it. Is this commercial pressure or is here another reason?
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 05:13
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Electing to depart from the 08 intersection reduces the available runway length to around 5,600ft making it one of the shortest take off runs at a major UK airport. Fine if the aircraft has the performance, not so good if the take off run has to be abandoned. One day it will all end in tears! http://doug3658.fotopic.net/p12346425.html

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Old 28th Jun 2006, 05:39
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easyJet routes starting this week

29 June 2006 London Luton to Bordeaux
29 June 2006 London Luton to Istanbul *
29 June 2006 London Luton to Rimini
30 June 2006 London Luton to Rijeka

* subject to approval
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 08:06
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Pain in the R's

The photo is hardly relevant. The DC-7C was landing, not departing. The reverse pitch failed to select and so the acft accelerated when 'reverse' power was applied. It was badly damaged because of the terrain at the end of the runway, something that was remedied soon after by the construction of a RESA.

I am sure the relevant accelerate-stop distances are checked.
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Originally Posted by vintage ATCO

I am sure the relevant accelerate-stop distances are checked.
May be so but given the choice would you prefer a 7,000 ft runway or a 5,600 ft runway if your take off run was aborted late.
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Do you know what V1 is?
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 15:18
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Originally Posted by vintage ATCO
Do you know what V1 is?
Yes the point where you can safely stop so 1400ft of extra runway means that the V1 point is longer in the take off run so it must be safer. Next question please

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Vintage ATCO I think your being a bit picky here, the photograph that pain in the R's published was an example of what can happen if an airliner was to run out of the hardstuff. The point is that if Pain in the R's was to be right about commercial pressure forcing pilots to cut their safety margins (which I doubt),is this good aviating. I would say not and the greater area of safety has to be a good for everybody. Presure on slot time's being made is essintial when your running an outfit with so many legs in a day.lets' hope pilots keep getting thier maths right and everybody equals the safe landing's to the takeoff's
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 17:50
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Put it another way - if 5,600 ft is sufficient runway for safe operations on a regular basis, why is anyone proposing to extend the current 7,000ft runway?
Surely, that would just be an unnecessary expense.

Presumably someone somewhere thinks that it is needed - does anyone know why?
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 17:52
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Grrr

You can take the argument even further, as Stansted as an infinitely longer runway than Luton, are the airlines being unsafe by choosing to use Luton? Of course not!

No one is forcing the crew to depart from the intersection and the reduced length takes into consideration the stopping distance required. Remember, the jets that take it form the intersection are unlikely to be full of fuel and pax, so lighter and quicker to stop?
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Had a look at the new black top in the short term car park tonight. This is a grade 1 job and looks like it has been laid for the long term unlike the sprayed gravel it has replaced.

So what does this mean then for phase 1? I can’t see the airport digging the stuff up next year for a new apron. Has phase 1 been abandoned then? It might explain why the plan has not been released.

The new M&S Simply Food store has passed all expectations. M&S were expecting a turnover of £5,000 to £7000 a day but the shop is taking over £10,000 a day with long queues at its 5 checkouts
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Old 29th Jun 2006, 04:44
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Certainly, the delay in releasing the Final Master Plan and the action taken above, does not bode well. An email enquiry to the Project 30 team about this, produced a "No Comment" response. Surely though, some additional stand space must be produced in the short term, as it makes no commercial sense for the airport to effectively "shut up shop" and keep turning business away. Assuming Silverjet takes to the skies at the end of the year, where will their initial 2 x 767s go?, with more to follow we are led to believe, let alone anything else.

Perhaps things have changed from the original draft MP, but something must happen surely.
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Old 29th Jun 2006, 04:54
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Airport management has gone into denial. Last night the traffic queue into the airport started again at the A505. Yet apart from putting up new signs they refuse to move on parked cars containing their drivers in the drop off zone.
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Old 29th Jun 2006, 15:02
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Istanbul still does not have approval from the Turkish authorities so did not operate today but Bordeaux & Rimini are, with Rijeka starting tomorrow.

Snippet from the easy website:-

"These services bring the total number of easyJet daily departures from Luton Airport to 98, with passenger numbers soaring to more than 5 million expected over the coming year".

Also stated that easy are committed to further expansion at the airport. However, quite where they will put the aircraft if no new apron stands are built soon is a mystery. Does easy now have 17 or 18 based aircraft at Luton?. 19 was meant to be the total by September.
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Grrr

easyJet will operate 3 night flights to Istanbul within the next 7 days, then nothing for the remainder of July allegedly?
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Today marks the last day of 4 months of nighttime runway closures when phase 1 of the runway repair program comes to an end. With the runway only Cat 1 since March 1st it is amazing that Luton has basically got away with it being fog free apart from an odd hour here and there. Who says Luton is a foggy airport
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