PRESTWICK

[FRatSTN]

Ryanair's Summer 2015 Prestwick flights are now on the website.


ScotsSLF you were correct, it is 3 aircraft.


44 return flights a week.


14 destinations:


Alicante
Barcelona-El Prat
Faro
Fuerteventura
Gran Canaria
Ibiza
Lanzarote
Malaga
Malta
Murcia
Palma de Mallorca
Reus
Rome-Ciampino
Tenerife-South

[Aftershock]

Article I saw said MOL stated 16 routes?? Corfu and Pisa?

[bad bear]

I won't even pretend to know how the airport finances run, but, with income from Ryanair reduced by over 50% and no reduction in airfield operating costs..... how big a loss are the airfield owners expecting to make in 2015?

bb

[FRatSTN]

Ryanair Summer 2015

Ryanair will operate 16 routes in Summer 2015. "Aftershock" pointed out Corfu and Pisa which are the 2 that I missed as they will only operate in July.

[farci]

I won't even pretend to know how the airport finances run, but, with income from Ryanair reduced by over 50% and no reduction in airfield operating costs..... how big a loss are the airfield owners expecting to make in 2015?

Ah! It may have escaped your notice but the Scottish Independence Referendum is less than three weeks away and the consultant's report on Prestwick's future is still being, er, 'edited'.

Timing is all!

[ScotsSLF]

Ther will be two versions of the report - one if it's a Yes and one if it's a No.

[CCFAIRPORT]

And about Carcassonne ????

[N707ZS]

Did the proposed scrap man ever start work?

[PIK3141]

No, the proposed scrap man presumably wanted the Polar hangar for near to nothing. Same old story of people who want but don't want to pay. Now the hangar is the permanent home of the Trump S76, the two Gatwick based BA A318s in August, and in for periods in September and November, the home of the Atmospheric Research Aircraft, the ARA BAE146. Outside the hangar at the moment 'RAF Prestwick' is busy loading two A330s, one departing to the USA, one to Italy.

[Skipness One Echo]

Worrying Ryanair are pulling out of Girona in favour of Barcelona el Prat, as this was the twin airport model I suggested PIK/GLA operation could follow. Any summer 2015 currently on sale at PIK can be switched to GLA at any time.

[Aftershock]

PIK3141, you mean there's more going on than Ryanair at PIK?? Surely not. You would think reading this thread that a few 737's a day is all that happens. There's so much more to Prestwick - scheduled 747 and 777 freighters and An12, An26, Il76, An124 cargo charters. C130, C17, A310 and A330 military fuel stops. That's just some of the weekly movements you see. Whether people like it or not, PIK is an asset to the local area and the country as a whole. It amazes me how so many posters on here seem to enjoy the fact that hundreds of peoples' jobs and livelihoods are seriously at risk. So sad.

[Facelookbovvered]

Aftershock or is it wind sock?

Don't be daft no one 'enjoys' for a minute the thought that people will lose their jobs were PIK to close anymore than the did with the Rootes motor business Bathgate? or the pits or the tank factory, but that doesn't justify sticking your head in the sand to the economic reality of running a business, for that is what PIK is, the fact that it is owned by the UK Government is neither here nor there.

I don't want this to drift in to a political forum, but the ownership of this airport just weeks away from the biggest political decision ever in Scotland inextricably links the future of both PIK & Scotland together, let me be clear I started off of the view that 'the better together campaign' was the right course for Scotland's future but over the past 6 weeks I have done a 180 and very much take the opposite view now and hope that Scotland does indeed gain independence on the 18th of next month.

How that will pad out for PIK I'm not certain, the UK has ruled out any currency union with Scotland, that maybe bluff i don't know, but if Scotland chooses to unilaterally use the pound and default (Salmonds words not mine) on its share of the national debt, then it follows that it can't expect to keep the assets acquired by that debt? Of course many assets are fixed and can't be removed, but anything that floats, fly's or drives can!!

Whilst i'm sure that PIK will continue to have a future demand from overseas military transports and heavy lift cargo it will certainly not have the custom from the rUK armed forces

Perhaps as an independent country Scotland may designate PIK as it primary military airport, either way it will be in the melting pot of rUK assets i.e. owned by the rUK Government and they most certainly will not want to own a private airfield in what will be then a Foreign country.

So i think its best to see what happens in 3 weeks time and hope that Scotland votes yes for independence, who knows it might become the Alex Salmond International airport (ASI) and that would put it on the world map

[PIK3141]

FBL. 'I don't want this to turn into a political forum' Then you proceed to do exactly that. I for one, am NOT interested in your political views. Nor am I interested in the views of someone who comes from Newcastle NI, either wrt PIK or wrt Scottish politics.

[N707ZS]

Thanks PIK3141.

[SWBKCB]

Just on a point of fact, isn't PIK owned by the Scottish Government?

[Facelookbovvered]

PIK3141

Not being interested in the views of other seems to be a particular trait in your part of the world at present, an unpleasant one at that!!


SWBKCB

I think you'll find that there in no 'Scottish Government' an assembly with limited devolved powers, but certainly not a Sovereign Government other than Westminster.

Now lets get back to talk about 747's and C17

[SWBKCB]

My mistake for breaking one of the golden rules

[Skipness One Echo]

All the other stuff at PIK generates income which is swallowed up by maintaining a loss making terminal facility that's waaaay too big, old and dated and lacks any business case for replacement. I agree PIK is an asset but until costs are controlled and the business right sized it will continue to lose money. Ryanair are on the way out, that might allow decsions to be made that will save the business.

[LNIDA]

Skipness one echo

I'm very much inclined to agree with you that Ryanair will not stay to any meaningful extent at Prestwick, of course it would be politically explosive to say so now so close to the referendum and they need to get a Summer program on sale. I don't think the outcome will influence what Ryanair do one way or another, but the recent launch of their enhanced business package shows which way they are thinking, one only has to look at Gerona & El Prat.

I hope PIK can find a business solution I have many fond memories of HMS Gannet, BAe Cygnet, Bill MacCloud, watching Concorde doing touch and goes and more recently Monarch circuit bashing.

[22 Degree Halo]

I think you'll find that there in no 'Scottish Government' an assembly with limited devolved powers, but certainly not a Sovereign Government other than Westminster.

Soon to change.