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And I did say in the recent past, RYR would be flying from GLA!! As I also said, those who know, know..... I also recall some saying that this would never happen, I knew, they obviously didn`t!
Incidentally for the record, I no longer work at PIK, I have moved on. But things are changing, beginning soon!
No more from me on this subject.
Incidentally for the record, I no longer work at PIK, I have moved on. But things are changing, beginning soon!
No more from me on this subject.
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Y will be down to just 12 weekly on STN - GLA this winter
Not sure where you are seeing 12 from as the timetable shows 2-4 daily depending on the day of the week. Not everything will be loaded yet btw into next March.
http://www.glasgowairport.com/flight-timetable/
BTW new website, try finding the above without the search facility, I couldn't! "CHANGE EVERYTHING Yaaaaaay!"
* gets coat
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EZY does 13 a week for much of the winter season on STN - GLA (2 flights a day except Saturday with only 1 flight), but when I looked for March 2015 there's no Saturday service, so it is only 12 a week by then. I guess we'll find out tomorrow if FR brings back STN, whether it be GLA or PIK.
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Today The Times Scotland
The budget carrier Ryanair is expected to make an announcement today about the future of its services in Scotland in a move that could threaten the government-owned Prestwick airport.
The Irish company, Prestwick’s sole passenger airline, with 24 routes, is to hold simultaneous news conferences in Glasgow and Edinburgh. Reports on the BBC last night suggested the airline would announce it is to begin flying from Glasgow airport.
The Ayrshire terminal was bought by the Scottish government for £1 last year to avert closure, after a steep decline in passenger numbers and annual losses of about £7 million. Although the airport also handles freight, maintenance and training, it relies on passenger traffic to bring in income.
Last month, ministers announced a further £10 million of public money to overhaul the ailing airport, prompting anger from council leaders and rival airports.
Nicola Sturgeon, the Deputy First Minister, told MSPs that the extra funding was needed to clear a maintenance backlog and refurbish the terminal, including the duty free shop, so that passengers would spend more money. It brings the total ploughed into the Ayrshire airport to £15 million, all in loans, which must be repaid with interest.
A Scottish government spokesman said yesterday: “We are aware of an announcement from Ryanair tomorrow. The airline is important to Scotland’s airports and we look forward to working with them in the future.
“With regards to Glasgow Prestwick airport, as the Deputy First Minister outlined in her ICI Committee appearance last month, there is no ‘quick fix’ solution for the airport — it will require a sustained effort over a number of years.”
The spokesman added: “We are confident there is a place for Glasgow Prestwick airport in the evolving and increasingly competitive Scottish aviation market, as an airport serving Ayrshire and other parts of the west of Scotland, and are committed to making it the success we know it can be.”
The Irish company, Prestwick’s sole passenger airline, with 24 routes, is to hold simultaneous news conferences in Glasgow and Edinburgh. Reports on the BBC last night suggested the airline would announce it is to begin flying from Glasgow airport.
The Ayrshire terminal was bought by the Scottish government for £1 last year to avert closure, after a steep decline in passenger numbers and annual losses of about £7 million. Although the airport also handles freight, maintenance and training, it relies on passenger traffic to bring in income.
Last month, ministers announced a further £10 million of public money to overhaul the ailing airport, prompting anger from council leaders and rival airports.
Nicola Sturgeon, the Deputy First Minister, told MSPs that the extra funding was needed to clear a maintenance backlog and refurbish the terminal, including the duty free shop, so that passengers would spend more money. It brings the total ploughed into the Ayrshire airport to £15 million, all in loans, which must be repaid with interest.
A Scottish government spokesman said yesterday: “We are aware of an announcement from Ryanair tomorrow. The airline is important to Scotland’s airports and we look forward to working with them in the future.
“With regards to Glasgow Prestwick airport, as the Deputy First Minister outlined in her ICI Committee appearance last month, there is no ‘quick fix’ solution for the airport — it will require a sustained effort over a number of years.”
The spokesman added: “We are confident there is a place for Glasgow Prestwick airport in the evolving and increasingly competitive Scottish aviation market, as an airport serving Ayrshire and other parts of the west of Scotland, and are committed to making it the success we know it can be.”
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Really bad news for Prestwick:
Bydgoszcz, Derry, Dublin, Riga, Warsaw Modlin & Wroclaw routes move to Glasgow Intl.
Prestwick is now:
1 based aircraft
7 winter routes in total (to/from Alicante, Barcelona Girona, Gran Canaria, Fuerteventura, Lanzarote, Malaga & Tenerife)
13 weekly return flights
Over 500,000 customers p.a.
Bydgoszcz, Derry, Dublin, Riga, Warsaw Modlin & Wroclaw routes move to Glasgow Intl.
Prestwick is now:
1 based aircraft
7 winter routes in total (to/from Alicante, Barcelona Girona, Gran Canaria, Fuerteventura, Lanzarote, Malaga & Tenerife)
13 weekly return flights
Over 500,000 customers p.a.
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http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ne...ily/?market=en
Unsustainable, which gives the government a get out clause to downsize massively to cut what will only be ever increasing losses without major cost reductions. Those routes remaining are a good fit for GLA, if DUB yields jump at GLA, and given the poor schedule PIK has had in recent years, they ought to, there's a good argument to move lock stock and barrel. The hangar is accesible via a short hop from the GLA or DUB bases leaving a core PIK operation around non commercial passenger traffic.
If it had been complimentary then duopoly, it's one at the expense of the other so beginning of the end at PIK as now PIK can't afford Ryanair!
500K is not far shy of the 300K from the end days of Gateway Scotland and a long way from the mid 2000s high point of 2.4M.
#bubble
Glasgow Prestwick
1 based aircraft
7 winter routes in total (to/from Alicante, Barcelona Girona, Gran Canaria, Fuerteventura, Lanzarote, Malaga & Tenerife)
13 weekly return flights
Over 500,000 customers p.a.
1 based aircraft
7 winter routes in total (to/from Alicante, Barcelona Girona, Gran Canaria, Fuerteventura, Lanzarote, Malaga & Tenerife)
13 weekly return flights
Over 500,000 customers p.a.
Thin end of the wedge? Or clever duopoly?
500K is not far shy of the 300K from the end days of Gateway Scotland and a long way from the mid 2000s high point of 2.4M.
#bubble
Only 13 return flights per week on the winter timetable, less than 2 per day. It will be a ghost town if Ryanair don't get a deal. Even the summer appears quiet according to the departures board, 7 departures between 0800 and 0600 the next day, only 7 arrivals between midnight and 11pm, an average of one every 3-4 hours.
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Ryanair can easily sustain flights from both airports.
Business / city routes from GLA and bucket and spade from PIK. People will still travel to PIK if it is for a week's holiday.
The question is can PIK sustain that?
Business / city routes from GLA and bucket and spade from PIK. People will still travel to PIK if it is for a week's holiday.
The question is can PIK sustain that?
People will still travel to PIK if it is for a week's holiday.
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I meant - but perhaps could've made it clearer -
for Prestwick?
regarding competing from GLA (Ireland routes in particular)
OR both?
I meant - but perhaps could've made it clearer -
Thin end of the wedge?
Or clever duopoly?
OR both?
They'll be an e-mail or letter floating around somewhere making it clear to PIK that unless they (the airport) allows Ryanair to use the facility for diddly-squat, or probably somewhat less than that, there won't be any Ryanair at the airport by April 2015.
Guns and heads come to mind.
Guns and heads come to mind.
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Ooocha! But not totally unexpected. It will be an interesting dog fight between FR and EZY, Wizz and EI at GLA so it will be interesting to see what the reaction is.
On the PIK front the summer 15 timetable will be crucial and inevitably cutbacks in staffing (particularly manegement) will have to be made given the further reduced winter schedule. FR have obviously kept the PIK operation due to the maintenance facility and the fact that the sun and spade routes do pretty well. And people will still 'come down the road' to use them from not only Glasgow but also from further afield. I have firends from Edinburgh who use PIK as opposed to EDI as they can usually get a much better deal (and free car parking at mine!)
So, its back to the drawing board for PIK (yet again!) but I still say the airfield has a future outside Pax but as has been mentioned on this forum many times it needs the right business plan driven by the right management. If Kemble, Biggin Hill and Farnborough (as examples) can thrive and be profitable then so can PIK.
On the PIK front the summer 15 timetable will be crucial and inevitably cutbacks in staffing (particularly manegement) will have to be made given the further reduced winter schedule. FR have obviously kept the PIK operation due to the maintenance facility and the fact that the sun and spade routes do pretty well. And people will still 'come down the road' to use them from not only Glasgow but also from further afield. I have firends from Edinburgh who use PIK as opposed to EDI as they can usually get a much better deal (and free car parking at mine!)
So, its back to the drawing board for PIK (yet again!) but I still say the airfield has a future outside Pax but as has been mentioned on this forum many times it needs the right business plan driven by the right management. If Kemble, Biggin Hill and Farnborough (as examples) can thrive and be profitable then so can PIK.
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Hopefully, PIK will decide on a minimum acceptable RYR schedule, below which they need to give them the boot. That will take a management with backbone............ no chance, then 😒