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Old 17th Feb 2011, 12:28
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Technically, Peel Airports still own 100% of DSA. Peel Airports in turn is owned 65% YVRAS, and 35% Peel Holdings.
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Old 17th Feb 2011, 20:37
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Yeah Ryan, technically! But you're on the same forums I frequent, so you'll have seen what and who I've seen!
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Shirely Peel Airports are merely an operating company who actually own only a contract to run an airport owned by somebody else, i.e. they own diddlely squat
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i.e. they own diddlely squat
who actually own only a contract to run an airport
Contracts are worth quite a lot of money - so really they do own something quite valuable.
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If you want to put it like that then, the owner is Peel Airports Limited, and the operating company is Doncaster Sheffield Airport Limited. Just as Manchester is owned by Manchester Airports Group, and operated by Manchester Airport PLC.
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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 00:03
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From what I can gather its the runway that interests these guys and also not too much competition, bits that I have heard is that this is something new to the aviation industry and if it does take off it could be massive
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Sounds interesting! Hopefully you'll be able to provide us with more details soon, as I realise it might be a bit secret at the moment.

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If it's the runway that interests them and lack of competition, then it must be long haul.In this case they would also be looking at EMA which has greater potential.
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Old 24th Feb 2011, 09:40
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But ...

That depends on the type of 'lack of competition'.
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Old 28th Apr 2011, 20:48
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Any more news on this at all?

I'm intrigued after the recent developments at Humberside, surely Peel must be under pressure to announce 'something' - that said I guess the Vulcan announcement was impressive and made up for it.

I can't but help think Mr. Morton's announcement in January could be the press being confused over the alleged upcoming BA charters?
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Well something 'quite famously' didn't happen recently, but there will no doubt be announcements in the months to come regarding a few services.
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Shame about that, as you say I'm sure they'll be future developments. I suspect Ryanair's presence at DSA will increase, that said their development at HUY to ALC was a surprise (to me at least).

I guess MME must be more of a priority for Peel at the moment, although I'm no expert - Beverley is about as far North as I go. I haven't got a clue about MME, but I must say it's some what an 'odd ball' that intrigues me.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the Vulcan on this thread Definitely going to try and see if I can get down tomorrow to see it depart for Abingdon - should be well worth the trek. I don't normally take a fancy to military a/c, but I don't know there's just something special about it!
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Old 7th May 2011, 18:11
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I suspect Ryanair's presence at DSA will increase
what makes you think that? Have yoou seen the loads?

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FR- I haven't. I guess it would help if expanded on my comment as it suggests I 'know' something.

I really think LCC's are suited to DSA and Ryainair obviously already fly from there. As we've seen Easyjet's operations at DSA didn't work out, so the only other LCC's that come to mind to fly from DSA are that of FlyBe, Jet2 and Wizz Air.

Jet2 I think is out of the question being up the road at LBA and FlyBe & Wizz Air already fly out of DSA. I can't see Wizz Air's presence growing hugely for the foreseeable future as obviously they specialise in serving Eastern Europe and as for FlyBe I'm not knowledgeable of their current circumstance, but I personally haven't heard of any talk of them developing at DSA.

With the ALC service I assume Ryanair are testing the local demand. If all works out fine, surely HUY isn't large enough to cater for Ryanair to expand upon in the long term? To be honest from a GA perspective I'd love HUY to stay quiet from scheduled activity and more air taxi's and GA movements as it's a great place to fly in/out of at the moment.

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So i see it was not good news regarding the release of the summer 2012 holiday programmes this week for DSA. Thomson's are dropping 1 of its current 3x based 737 aircraft.

The Airline/Tour Operator is axeing routes to Bourgas, Heraklion, Larnaca & Zante. It is also reducing capacity on service's to Bodrum, Dalaman, Enfidha & Palma.

I wonder if anyone will step in to replace these routes from DSA?
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Old 8th May 2011, 18:06
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To be honest from a GA perspective I'd love HUY to stay quiet from scheduled activity and more air taxi's and GA movements as it's a great place to fly in/out of at the moment.
I agree, being in the same boat, but I would much prefer MAG to keep hold of HUY, and that happening rests on a growth in passenger numbers in the medium term.

I dont see how FR could not expand at both to some extent. ALC is proving popular from both HUY and DSA.
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New Airline @ DSA

...and it's not April 1st hmm....Media | Press Releases | New Airline Flies from Robin Hood Airport Doncaster Sheffield to Amsterdam
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Great news till I saw the price £295* Return.

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Old 9th May 2011, 11:40
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Hi Air - Fill thy purse with money

A glance at history doesn't bode well for this type of venture. Even in good economic times this sort of niche, low capacity service has usually foundered. Unless they are prepared to ride the inevitable early losses it is unlikely to last six weeks. Upmarket niche services can only exist where there is an upmarket demand, which in the UK means London, not Doncaster.
Doubtful what value will be seen in personal service on a less than one hour sector. Suckling sustained it for several years in the 1980s but that was from Ipswich/Cambridge - the wealthy south-east, and in a boom economy. The higher frequency, lower fares, interlining etc offering by KLM from several airports not far away will be more attractive to the majority of business travellers.
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Agreed. Unfortunately the market around Doncaster is more geared towards a low-cost airline serving the route. Obviously KLM would work but that's because of the onward worldwide connections it can seemlessly offer not to mention it is well known in the surrounding areas.Even the business passenger market will look elsewhere for the cheapest availabilty to save money these days. Though it will be great if it does well, for the price you are going to pay, apart from being able to flying from your local airport,it just doesn't offer anything else different than flying with say bmibaby from EMA just 50 minutes away and then still be able to get another couple of return flights out of the money saved!!!
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