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Old 17th Oct 2008, 21:12
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Is he not saying one thing to the Birmingham Post then another to the Coventry Telegraph?
As for talking to 19 airlines 3 or 4 of them large carriers, is that not what all airports do on a constant basis?
If Orphanou has had a glittering successful career, what on earth is he doing at Coventry airport?
It will be interesting to see if he can get any airline that will not want CVT to pay them to come in. They will have the upper hand in any negotiations as CVT are now desperate.
How will they then recoup any costs? No terminal built yet, no retail....??????
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 21:32
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Call100,

Chris Orphanou is not at Coventry Airport as a result of his own careers downfall. I suggest that instead of quite blatantly from an uninformed and unknowledgeable position, criticising him, you should actually read the facts and then post a piece of writing that is worth the space it occupies.

Chris is actually here as a result of a family tragedy. Apparantly, he used to fly around the world in his position as a manager of Vinci Airports, until his wife died at a young age as a result of cancer. According to the Coventry Telegraph and numerous other websites, he then had to move to a permanent position to look after his daughter.

It was only as a result of sarcasm that the 'glittering career' rubbish was introduced. The point that I was trying to convey that he is very experienced airport manager, who has worldwide experience.
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 22:54
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Reality check

One would not wish to rubbish, personally, any one person involved in the CVT saga but, I feel, the assetions about the ability of the present incumbant of the CEO position contrast, starkly, with the opinions of just about everyone at the airport. Compliments about management style, expertise and the relationships fostered at the airport in the last two years are extremely hard to find. Do feel free to ask around to substantiate this assertion. Indeed you will find many people with axes to grind but, frankly, the regime did nothing to foster goodwill from within and some will say they actually, on occasions, went out of their way to create conflict both within and outside the business.

Regardless of whether or not the top job at CVT is an impossible task (and my personal belief is that it was spiked somewhat before the present regime took control), the role required a good deal more charisma, creativity, strategic intelligence and, yes, competence than has been present in the last two years.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 01:38
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It's a mystery to me why Chris Orphanou has restarted the call he made 18 months ago that BHX should give up what he calls its 'short haul' business and allow Coventry to take it over.
I simply can't believe he is that naive.
He either knows absolutely nothing about airport business or he is attempting to politically 'spin' Coventry's problems and blame it on Birmingham.
Presumably if BHX tells him he's being ridiculous he will accuse the BHX management of being ruthless and selfish. Perhaps he'll get Bob Ainsworth, the Coventry North East Labour MP to intervene again. It was this MP who described BHX's opposition to the huge expansion plans of Coventry as 'quite disgraceful'.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 13:07
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His personal life has nothing to do with the question I asked. May I suggest you answer the question properly.
The question was what is he doing at Coventry?
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 14:02
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In the context of your question, I think CVT answered it very well.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 16:31
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Question Major Airlines to fly from CVT???

Chris Orphanou's comments regarding 19 airlines expressing intrests in CVT, including 4 "big Players" puzzles me CVT dont have a chance of getting a "proper" terminal, far too many Nimby's around the area where CVT is built and i cannot see any major airline (I take it that is who Mr O means by big players) wanting thier passengers in uprated portacabins with little facilities.
Could one of them be FR? lets face it MOL has expressed an interest in having his own airport within the UK, There is less chance of STN being sold off now & he certainly would not mind having his pax in sheds (as long as its cheap), Unless BIA have screwed him to the ground when he came in (which I doubt) he has & will up sticks & move at a moments notice.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 19:06
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Ryanair CVT

One of many problems.

B737 800.

Dont think so
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 20:06
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In terms of big players - who arent down the road at BHX, it only leaves EZY and Jet2....
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 20:18
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I think its time some people on here ask, what can coventry offer to large/big airlines that BHX or EMA can't
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 20:50
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I think it could be argued that Coventry offers an additional runway in the region, one that, according to the White Paper, will be needed in years to come.

Right now there doesn't seem much prospect of any airline starting up at CVT, but it could happen. The management at BHX might get arrogant; the charges at BHX might become a lot higher than at CVT. Several reasons why a small airline could decide to use CVT rather than BHX - but I don't think it is likely in the current economic climate. But in 5 years, maybe 10 at the most, Coventry will be a very useful airport helping to serve the region.

The immediate future is, I guess, to develop business aviation operations and perhaps some cargo, and continue to be a very useful GA airport. It will have to reconcile itself to being a 2nd division airport (which it is anyway), and set out its stall accordingly. No shame in that.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 20:50
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In the context of your question, I think CVT answered it very well.
You could be right (or not). However, it would have been better put without the insults. If he's taking this personally then he should have a little more self control. His relationship with Mr Orphanou is of no interest to me.
I suggest he reads all of the posts against Mr Orphanou and not just pick out one post to attack or reply to them all. My question was not an attack but just a legitimate question given CVT's brown nosing in an earlier post reference Mr Orphanou's career.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 23:40
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Call 100,

I can guarantee that I have not taken anything personally, and that I certainly have no relationship whatsoever with Mr. Orhpanou!

I truly do apologise very sincerely if any of my comments caused any insult to you in any way, shape or form as I can assure you that they were in no way meant to be malicious or in a personal manner.

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Old 19th Oct 2008, 10:38
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driving past cvt yesterday, i saw white plane with blue tail with the letter b on the tail. not to sure what it was, probably fokker 100, crj or 717 also not to sure what airline it is. does anyone know what airline and aircraft it is? perhaps this is one of chris' new airlines coming in to cvt!
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 10:52
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A/C identity

a/c sounds like blueline from france who operate md80s and fokker jets. Do a lot of charters for numerous airlines.

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Old 19th Oct 2008, 10:55
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thanks Barry.
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 11:40
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Was a Fokker 100 charter from Montpelier with the Rugby team for the Heineken Cup game against Northampton, doubt if Chris even noticed they were here let alone knew who they were were!
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 18:32
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cvt

call 100 its are jobs that are going not yours
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 19:31
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OK, Perhaps I was a bit over sensitive....I'll try harder next time...

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I know it's your job's that are on the line....I take no delight in that. It's not the workforces fault in anyway. I don't believe I gave that impression.
As I said hopefully they will pull something out of the bag. Have they announced any job losses yet?
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 19:57
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No announcement to my knowledge about job losses yet. I believe that airport management have said that they will know more about this within the next few weeks. Let's hope something materialises sooner rather than later.

As for the three/four airlines; my immediate thoughts also turned to easyJet and Jet2, with perhaps Flyglobespan being a faint possibilty. Judging from a few rumours, their financial positition isn't all too desirable though!

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