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Old 27th Mar 2008, 20:17
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Domestic and international are totally mixed. Flew out of T5 as a domestic passenger today, what a difference to the horrible domestic T1 departures area!
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 20:25
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Well a large number of the airbridges are of incredible length (I'm sure the day I was there they said that two of them were the longest in the world) so maybe that affects why some of them are metal and some glass-sided. Perhaps to do with the length of span of some of them across roads and mini-roundabouts etc.
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Actually, none of the airbridges have glass....but the passage ways that lead towards the Airbridges do! LOL!
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Nooooo ! Why oh why oh why is it that Heathrow just can't ever seem to manage to do luggage?
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MA; You are wrong BAA will not relinguish their hold on the building. The T5 steering group in 1998 put forward the scheme for BA to manage own and operate everything at T5, facilities & security. At first BAA were all for it but then changed their mind as they wished to keep control. Such reasons were what might happen in the event of BA going bust and if any of the companies BA used going to the wall.

On the other issues of unionisation sadly you are correct as the whole company is riddled with it from the Captains to the loaders. everything involves the question 'How much'. Many of the movers and shakers involved in the project from the outset were consultants who knew nothing whatsoever about airports and airlines and these were assisted by BA / BAA staff that did not have jobs but could not be fired.

My thread from March 20th
FIASCO @ 5 STARTS ON THE NIGHT OF THE 26TH WITH THE RUNWAY BEING CLOSED AND TURNED INTO A ROAD FOR THE EQUIPMENT TO BE DRIVEN ACROSS FROM 4 BY THE MOST DIRECT ROUTE. mANY OF THE mON -fRI STAFF ARE VOLUNTEERING.

If I knew it was likely to be a fiasco why didn't the BA / BAA and HAL management know it.
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 09:44
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Originally Posted by mech assassin
When you go to checkout at the supermarket.....Supermarket operations are much smaller than airports and can afford to provide help for some people (mums with kids and the elderly), but what if every single customer wanted help? They couldn't cope.
You've obviously never been to a supermarket in ther USA (and many other countries) where every single shopper has their bags packed by supermarket staff.

And this is a microcosm of the management structure at Heathrow. Well paid people going round saying things can't be done, whereas the real truth is they can, but those in management are thick, don't understand, don't know how to do things, are mesmerised by compliance with budgets, and a series of other stupidities.

I think the Minister of Transport should call for Willie Walsh's resignation if things are not running very well indeed by the end of today. And do you know what we would see if such a demand were made, it would happen. It's possible.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 21:28
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Heathrow expansion west of T5

The BBC is showing on the map below some significant LHR expansion west of T5 and beyond the M25.

I was totally unaware of this and I have missed the "Heathrow Expansion Road Shows".
Can anyone enlighten me with details or point me to some web sources.
I guess it is zero newsworthy as it has a low population unlike north of the airport.



http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...hrow_expansion


Source: Department for Transport
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 21:35
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That's the landfill site for the lost luggage.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 21:56
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Maybe car parking? Can't get an aircraft there and the multi-storey car park prevents T5 expanding westwards.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 22:02
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Heathrow Expansion

another little clue as to the intentions is the layout of the trains tracks below T5. The tube station is designed as a through station, not a terminus.It is clearly intended that the Piccadilly line is to extend west of T5.

Car Parking, Car Hire, Hotels, all to be displaced by the development required for the third runway.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 22:18
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If you missed the Roadshows for the Consultation (now closed) the major docs for the discussion are at the DfT site:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/...nway3study.pdf

and the related tech docs at: http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/...hnicalreports/

The docs cover the technical aspects of the need for expansion - not what happens to passengers......

Hope this of some interest.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 22:34
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Terminal 7, when they decide to close T5 and pretend it never happened

Originally Posted by CaptJ
another little clue as to the intentions is the layout of the trains tracks below T5. The tube station is designed as a through station, not a terminus.It is clearly intended that the Piccadilly line is to extend west of T5.
That may be a design possibility but it's more likely that the reason the tunnels run on past the tube station platforms is (1) because that's what "tube building law" says must be built - new dead-end tunnel platforms haven't been allowed since the Moorgate tube disaster of 1975; (2) to provide space beyond the platforms to store a couple of trains at night or perhaps but broken trains during the day until the night when it's easier to go fetch them.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 22:43
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The station is designed for expansion. There are 6 platforms with 4 in use and 2 reserved for future through rail. There is an idea to link this to the line which goes to Reading from Waterloo. It is known as project AirTrack. The idea gives several possibilities - Paddington to Reading via T5 (possibly onto Bristol etc.), Waterloo to Reading via T5, Woking etc. T5 to the South West.
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Old 31st Mar 2008, 00:12
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Exclamation Heathrow Expansion Plans

This is top secret news and cannot go any further....

Heathrow Expansion Plans

Terminal 6 has already been built......I kid you not!

They are disguising it as Wembley Stadium but trust me their intentions are indecent. Some conspiracy theorists (I'm not one) even go as far as stating that the Millenium Dome was built as Terminal 7 for their eastwards expansion.

As for Wembley, I'm really concerned for the England team as they'll feel orphaned again. They might end up having to play their matches at the Fremirates Stadium (French-Emirates) in norf london......

We must act quickly!








Sorry, I've been on the vino tonight and couldn't resist some humour.....
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Old 31st Mar 2008, 00:17
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Originally Posted by electriclightfoot
Sorry, I've been on the vino tonight and couldn't resist some humour.....
And we are all eagerly awaiting some.
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Old 31st Mar 2008, 15:05
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Go west young man!

When T5 was first being mooted about 20 years ago I recall seeing an unofficial drawing indicating further possible LHR terminals 6, 7 & 8 exteding westward from T5. T8 was roughly located on the site of a well-known medieval castle that will become surplus once the present tenant passes on.
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Old 31st Mar 2008, 15:14
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'Heathrow West' is what Ryanair plan to call White Waltham when they introduce service there.
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Old 31st Mar 2008, 15:59
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"'Heathrow West' is what Ryanair plan to call White Waltham when they introduce service there."

Nah, Heathrow West is the new base at Bournemouth which opens on Thursday.....
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Old 31st Mar 2008, 17:41
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White Waltham Heathrow West?

No - far to close and convenient for Ryanair - it would have to be Newquay, or Penzance.
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Old 3rd Apr 2008, 21:26
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Terminal One

Saw that the BA B757s are now using the old domestic stands on the old Novemebers and Alpha stands. I guess there are no domestic flights now are BA using the old Shuttle lounge on pier 4? Are BMI still using the bombsite that is Pier 3 or have they got the Europier.

I guess United and Air New Zealand will be getting the newer facilities on there?
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