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Old 4th Nov 2007, 13:31
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sorry JIPPIE. first time poster but long time lurker, dont really understand your last post,

JippieIn the slotlist for the summer of 2008 in RTM, Air Southwest has slots for a flight from/to LGW. 3x daily on weekdays and one flight on sunday. To be operated with the DH3. But they that's if the use them.
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I hope FlyBE dont offer GLA and NCL to NQY. Their service and ontime performance is dire compared to WOW. Would much rather use them than FlyBe. BE are more likely to be able to offer silly low prices initially and force competitors off the route.
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Service and on time performance is now very good at Flybe
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Thats because they sub charter in everybody else to operate for them
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sorry JIPPIE. first time poster but long time lurker, dont really understand your last post,
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JippieIn the slotlist for the summer of 2008 in RTM, Air Southwest has slots for a flight from/to LGW. 3x daily on weekdays and one flight on sunday. To be operated with the DH3. But they that's if the use them.
Some airports are slot controlled and you have to apply for and be awarded slots in order to start new services. It appears that Air Southwest have applied for slots at Rotterdam, though having slots doesn't mean an airline will use them
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airhumberside, thanks for clearing that up!
so am i correct in reading that WOW have slots for summer08 that they could do Rotterdam to LGW 3xdaily on weekdays and one on a Sunday?
can i assume that by dh3 you mean the currect dash 8 300's??
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 20:03
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For the record, ASW did indeed apply for LGW slots to be able to operate a RTM service but have not, as yet, been allocated any slots.

They may indeed have been allocated slots at the other end of the route, but the RTM slots data is not yet available for "public" view to other carriers...so only they would know if they have been successful as yet.

I may be wrong (can't remember if it applies only to jet aircraft)...but something in the back of my mind says that RTM has a ORY/LCY-style annual movements limit....or was than EIN??!
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Airhumberside and cornishsimon are correct. But the RTM slots data is public and they've got the slots. But indeed we will have to wait and see if they will use them.
Both RTM and EIN indeed have a maximum number of slots but apparently there was room for some slots for WOW.
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 20:24
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Tunawholesalers,

Few people in Air Southwest want to be backed by Sutton Harbour but until someone tells MG, there's nothing anyone in the airline can do!
No idea who MG is, and I have no particular axe to grind here, but I think your comment is a little mis-guided.

To be fair, if it wasn't for Sutton Harbour, Air Southwest wouldn't have existed in the first place. Sutton Harbour own the Plymouth Airport, and could probably have quite reasonably used the withdrawal of BA a few years back as a reason to shut the airport and build houses on it. But they didn't - they started Air Southwest instead!

ASW are doing a decent job in developing services from the far South West - let's not knock it!
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EXT & BOH on the cards

when will services from Exeter and Bournemouth start?

I had heard from the grapevine it would be 2008 sometime? Spring or Summer?
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L-G double yew, sutton harbour were paid by BA to set up Air south west after BA pulled out they also did all there line training for them as well on the Dash, if i remember correctly there was a bit of pressure from MPs in the commons on BA to ensure a link was maintained to the south west from the london area, this had nothing to do with the fact that quite a few MPs have holiday homes in the Devon/Cornwall area!!!!
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EXT & BOH on the cards
when will services from Exeter and Bournemouth start?

I had heard from the grapevine it would be 2008 sometime? Spring or Summer?

i didnt know that any services from exeter and bournmouth had been confirmed???

where are these services to? how many etc ?

surely if there are to be services to/from these airports as well as the current expansion of services to Glasgow and Newcastle there will need to be an expansion of the current ASW fleet of 5 DH8-300's ?

any ideas whats on the cards? i see from previous posts that money is available to expand the fleet, do we think that this will be some of the ex BA/Bacon DH8-300's that passed to Flymaybe?

what do we think the chances of having all 3 ex BA dh8-300's and also perhaps some of Flybe's BAE 146's which i understand are soon to retire ?

would certainly make sense
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 15:13
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will they make the most?

What i'm most curious about is will the managment at Sutton Harbour or Air Southwest perhaps make the most of the great £/$ exchange rate and SAS grounding something like what 27 Q400's and perhaps expand their fleet with some of the newer Dash 8's?

Would be nice to see
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 15:39
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I`m not sure a Dash 8 400 would not have a weight penalty out of PLH

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Q400's and PLH

I'm pretty sure the Q400 wouldn't be suitable for PLH... IIRC even the 300's are pushing it at times?
Willing to be corrected though!

For NQY there wouldn't be a problem though.
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 09:23
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Was hoping to get any feedback on the interview process? Julie indicated informal but was interested in balance of tech to HR? Any help very much appreciated
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 09:30
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jerboyQ400's and PLH
I'm pretty sure the Q400 wouldn't be suitable for PLH... IIRC even the 300's are pushing it at times?
Willing to be corrected though!

For NQY there wouldn't be a problem though.
certainly wouldnt be a problem at NQY, flymaybe use them on the routes that they operate sometimes from NQY

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when will services from Exeter and Bournemouth start?

I had heard from the grapevine it would be 2008 sometime? Spring or Summer?
does anyone have any further information on this ??
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 12:22
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Ah i probably should have been a bit clearer

The 400 isnt viable to use out of PLH - but there is no reason why they cant base one or two in NQY and add some extra capacity to routes such as the Gatwick or possibly the new routes.

It would be fairly easy to still serve PLH by bringing a 300 over from there with pax to tie up with the 400.

They can then use the 300 to go off on a stand alone service from newquay to be back in time to meet the 400. Air Southwest seem pretty good at these tie ups (when the schedules work)
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FunFlyinAh i probably should have been a bit clearer

The 400 isnt viable to use out of PLH - but there is no reason why they cant base one or two in NQY and add some extra capacity to routes such as the Gatwick or possibly the new routes.

It would be fairly easy to still serve PLH by bringing a 300 over from there with pax to tie up with the 400.

They can then use the 300 to go off on a stand alone service from newquay to be back in time to meet the 400. Air Southwest seem pretty good at these tie ups (when the schedules work)
just a thought here, but i would bet that WOW stick with the DH8-300 instead of bringing in the Q400, especially considering the current problems with the Q400.

does anyone know which aircraft are able to fly in/out of PLY? would they be able to use the 146's that flymaybe are ditching ?

however all that said, and considering the Chambéry route for late 2008, i think a slight change in direction of the fleet is going to have to become evident sooner or later, iv seen some queries over the range etc of the 300's for use on this route.

as well as this i was looking at the press releases on the NQY website and notice the following:
On the destination wish list for summer 2008, Karen Medweth confirmed, are flights to Amsterdam and Paris, plus key cities in Germany and Spain. “There is also a strong demand for domestic flights from Newquay to the West Midlands, Newcastle and Glasgow.”
obviously WOW would be at the top of the list of airlines that would possibly provide some if not all of the routes that NQY want, seeing as though they have already announced the Newcastle and Glasgow.

i would of thought that if they can see profit in the routes that we could well expect a fairly decent expansion in fleet and routes
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Simon,

The 400 would probably be easier for the company than the 146 only due to type commonalities.
They would run into problems trying to crew a jet and a turbo prop (salaries etc) and maintenance would probably cause problems!!

The Chambery route on the 300 is (i think) viable mileage wise. But the more ASW starts to probe into europe (fingers crossed) the more problems they might stumble across - i don't think the 300 cruises at too high a speed.

With regards to what can get into and out of PLH - ummm. The 300 struggles at times i'm sure. The old ATR used to use it. I know the 146 is a STOL aircraft but whether it can use PLH and all its seats i dont know

But they have to expand the fleets before they can expand the routes. Although i'm hoping for more announcements once the Military/Civil switchover has completed. It can't be easy having to deal with both the MOD and the council with everything
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