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Old 29th Oct 2007, 12:16
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Farmer, Am afraid to say it.. I can't reveal my source. (You know me though... see you later)

Birdy... Thanks for your input, and yes I do realise the repercussions of said (Speculated) closure.

It has been some peoples thoughts for some time that the Bristol base is in jeapordy of closure. As AirHumberside quite rightly asked, yes at the moment their base at Bristol is purely Charter. We see them coming through security very infrequently these days...

Let's just wait and see but as I hear it... BRS no more..
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Old 29th Oct 2007, 12:34
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Crew the screw could you PM your idenity please?
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 00:21
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New Routes

Air Southwest have announced further expansion at there NQY and PLH bases.

With flights From PLH to NCL/GLA/DUB and ORK via NQY

Also Winter 08 Services to CMF from both NQY and PLH

Question: Are they adding to the fleet if so will they take the EX BACON dash 8's that BE have in storage
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 01:37
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Its a shame CWL isnt involved in any of the new route annoucements.
CWL is crying out for a decent NCL route (Eastern being expensive) and baby only do GLA x1 daily which is no use to business pax.
I'm sure NCL, GLA, ABZ, DUB (against Aer Arann), and even LGW/LCY would do well from CWL.
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 04:53
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i presume it is only the based a/c and crews that are leaving Bristol, leaving the existing MAN-LBA-PLY-NQY services to be operated as 'w' pattern as they were prior to the Brs base being established. As has been stated previously, i aggree they missed a hell of an oportunity by not jumping in after FLYBACON pulled out.
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 08:07
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The Bristol base to close, its now public, what a complete lack of foresight our management seem to have
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 10:48
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Have to agree with Caaardiff, come back to CWL Air Southwest. you were great here and surely there must be some routes for you to do.......

Have also been advised that the towbar for WOW has been returned to CWL - due to all the large amount of charter flights. CWL to CFE,HUY,GCI,LPL,SNN to name a few.

If BRS is closing why not make that jump to CWL - we will look after you !!!
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 11:00
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Lack of foresight? Has ASW EVER shown any foresight? Moving to Cardiff would involve moving out of the airlines beloved South West region. And that would require balls and someone to have a clue about what is going on. Something that the management I doubt are capable of doing.

This recent decision proves that the management have no clue. A whole host of opportunities have gone begging over the last couple of years. A realy shame for the great people that work at BRS. Excellent people and I wish them well.
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 11:10
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When FlyBe pulled BACon out, all at BRS were hoping Air Southwest could be the next success story from here-They could have gained a lot. The ASW crews are all top and wish them the best for the future. I would imagine BRS are not too worried though as we will still have them here on a W and it will free some night parking. With thier expansion plans in the future they may decide to come back. Aviation is a fickle and unpredictable business. Good news for Newquay though. I think they could build up a nice airport there with right investment.
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 11:21
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I think they could build up a nice airport there with right investment
There lies the problem. Who is going to invest in it? If you think Sutton Harbour - your wrong. They are only interested in safe, secure investments - not airports. What happens to the ASW routes at NQY when Easy and Ryanair pop a shiny A319 or B737 on it??

There are a heap of potential routes at BRS, but alas no business sense to set any of them up.
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 12:39
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It has been some peoples thoughts for some time that the Bristol base is in jeapordy of closure. As AirHumberside quite rightly asked, yes at the moment their base at Bristol is purely Charter. We see them coming through security very infrequently these days...
Sounds like a genuine enough business idea.
As above states, BRS was mainly used for charter. Were the any of the scheduled routes that were started using the BRS crews and a/c?

They are an airline of the southwest. Using only NQY/PLH as their bases would save them alot of money. And it also means more routes from these bases, as has just been released.
If the route was PLH/NQy-BRS-NCL/GLA this would be a complete waste of time, competing against EZY. There's a gap in the market, and ASW are the perfect people to fill it!
Well done! Here's hoping they do take on more a/c soon and we see more from them!
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 15:10
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BarinBuzz wrote - There lies the problem. Who is going to invest in it? If you think Sutton Harbour - your wrong. They are only interested in safe, secure investments - not airports.
If Sutton Harbour had their way they'd build a nice housing estate on it, probably add a government funded NHS care center to help the people living there during their time of need. They'd have a nice little salt water harbour built in the corner with extortionate moring fees. Make a nice little office block out of the terminal with the sneeky MDs office overlooking the whole development. Build three high rise tower blocks full of aprtments to be rented by Sutton Harbour!

Following the development of this new exciting housing estate they'd issue a press release saying all the money made from the development is to be reinvested in the airport!

Turkeys they are!

Few people in Air Southwest want to be backed by Sutton Harbour but until someone tells MG, there's nothing anyone in the airline can do!

God Bless everyone at BRS - I wish them well!
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 15:40
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Management haven't got a clue? I thought Air Southwest was now run by Jim Cameron and if that is the same Jim Cameron I know with experience stretching back thirty years or more then I find that hard to believe.

Having run an airline myself and been commercial director of two others I assure you it is not easy and what may sometimes appear like a huge opportunity sometimes proves otherwise for many obscure reasons when the numbers are crunched and the research properly carried out.

Success is measured by profit and loss, revenue earned against expenditure and should not be measured by appearance based on what and where you fly.....

If JC reads this how's the availability on the comet 4B this weekend??

????
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 18:51
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How many unserved routes at BRS are suitable for a Dash 8? Not many, and not the likes of FRA, DUS, ZRH, MUC and CPH. Plus theres also the issue of slots at the destination airport. Air Southwest are probably best sticking to one fleet type and expanding in their core market of Newquay and Plymouth
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 22:26
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Bristol base to close?

Am I missing the point, I have just received a mail from ASW saying they have flts from BRS to Man Leeds Nqy Ply and Jersey, so is Bristol closing? Very handy for me popping over from Spain to see the folks in Cornwall so I hope not.
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 10:49
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what may sometimes appear like a huge opportunity sometimes proves otherwise for many obscure reasons when the numbers are crunched and the research properly carried out
Therein lies the biggest problem so far. How much research was done into the BRS-NWI route? 6 months into the route, ASW people were told that "it has now actually been discovered that there is no business people in BRS/NWI that need to commute between the two cities". Mmmm, perhaps that kind of research is needed BEFORE a route starts!!!

Hopefully the new routes ex PLH and NQY will have been better thought out.
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 15:26
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From the NQY position the NCL route is a no brainer, Baby proved the demand from the region out of MME, was unfortunate that when Baby pulled the base from MME that nobody jumped on until now. It will sell like hot cakes.

GLA will be very popular as well, the surveys conducted identify GLA as a top 6 destination Airport.
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 17:11
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Would anyone be surprised if Flybe announced NQY to GLA and NCL? Bearing in mind they already serve EDI from the airport.
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 12:42
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Anyone have any thoughts on the new PLH/NQY to CMF (Chambery)? Bit of a long trek, 2hrs 30mins flying and a bit of a numb bum at the end!! Pax load restricted to 40 to make room for the excess baggage. Get it up to FL250 and switch on the long-range cruise and should be able to do it.

Air Humberside - yeah BRS has been looked at over and over and again with the demise of BACON. There wasn't anything that seemed viable or worthwhile - shame really. Good people there. Lets hope some of them relocate to PLH.
 
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In the slotlist for the summer of 2008 in RTM, Air Southwest has slots for a flight from/to LGW. 3x daily on weekdays and one flight on sunday. To be operated with the DH3. But they that's if the use them.
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