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Old 14th Oct 2011, 18:59
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A way WOULD be found by shifting someone less glamorous along a few stands.
I've often wondered whether BA and BD have some kind of long-term deal with BAA to exclusively, or almost exclusively, use stands 6, 9 and 10 which are conveniently close to their respective lounges. They certainly seem to have first call on these stands when needed. If they do have such an arrangement, then it might not be easy for BAA to move them to other stands and thereby make available the former stand 6A or the former diagonal stand between stands 11 and 14 for larger long-haul aircraft. If I were BA or BD, and I if had a long-term deal for these stands, then I would be very reluctant to renegotiate any such deal when the consequence might be to lose passengers (that would otherwise route long-haul via LHR) to a direct long-haul flight from EDI. Maybe I’m putting two and two together and getting five? Maybe there is no such arrangement? As a casual observer it would appear that there may well be.

Conspiracy theorists and cynics might look at the weak PCNs linking the SE apron to taxiway alpha, the previous abolition of stands 6A and the stand between 11 and 14, the almost exclusive use that BA and BD have to the stands that block the use of these potential large widebody stands (even if they were reinstated) and the general lack of investment in suitable international/long-haul facilities at EDI and conclude that, despite all the fine words, EDI has never really been serious about attracting long-haul and that they are instead looking after their own interests and those of their biggest clients at LHR (BA and BD) by trying to route as many passengers as possible via LHR. The benefits of this to BA, BD and their respective alliance partners are obvious. In the case of BAA they get two lots of airport “taxes” and two opportunities to get passengers into their shopping malls instead of one. I’m more inclined to believe that the situation at EDI is the long term result of government and then BAA policies in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s (and possibly right up until the competition commissioner started his investigations), some of which have been touched on by others earlier in this thread. Having said that, some of the more recent BAA decisions have been puzzling to say the least, such as abolishing stand 6A before strengthening the taxiways to the SE apron, and not creating a dedicated walking route between some international contact stands and the immigration hall; this often results in an aircraft not being able to board passengers when another is disembarking and vice versa.

If anyone is interested, the EDI parking/docking chart can be found via this link; NATS | AIS - Home . Note that, at EDI, the gate numbers are not the same as the stand numbers.
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Old 14th Oct 2011, 19:14
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Its certainly not just a stand issue, as has been mentioned elsewhere, EK for example are happy to remote stand and bus at lots of their major destinations across their network.
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Retracting my Air Transat comment, the equivalence is between the A330-200 and the A330-300, not the A310. Still WIERD though!
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BAA TO SELL EDINBURGH

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Looks like you should be eating humble pie right now with your replies to Joe Curry on this matter a few pages ago :-O
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EZY will give up CGN from 8th January.
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Old 5th Nov 2011, 21:58
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Humble pie? Now why would I eat that? Because I said the clincher of the deal doesnt revolve round BAA HQ... You know that was the specific reason? Please do share....

"Commonsense would dictate they sell the worse performing Scottish central belt airport"
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Old 5th Nov 2011, 22:32
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EZY will give up CGN from 8th January.
Not surprising given the increased freqs from Germanwings.?
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 19:40
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EZY Giving up CGN.

Can't say it'll be a great loss. Personally, I always saw it as a total missed opportunity for EZY and EDI. I even considered it a waste of time for EZY as 4U have always had a better product with the added benefit of offering connections from CGN at prices which are quite favourable when compared to LH or BA and sometimes cheaper than EZY anyway.

Hopefully in time EZY will give us a much needed HAM link or even VIE...both are cities I cannot believe are not served from Scotland. Perhaps I'm being too optimistic, though.
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Hopefully in time EZY will give us a much needed HAM link or even VIE
Hopefully EZY will move it's Berlin service to EDI to take advantage of the obvious attraction Edinburgh has for German travellers in particular.
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Old 7th Nov 2011, 18:05
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Interesting FR EDI Berlin has never really set the heather alight comparing with other UK Berlin routes
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Without a successful GLA-DXB service there would be little prospect of EK starting at EDI, so I for one welcome EK's success at GLA and hope it will lead to expansion at EDI in the near future.
Think there's a big UAE announcement coming , but it won't involve EDI !
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Interesting FR EDI Berlin has never really set the heather alight comparing with other UK Berlin routes
568,959 passengers were recorded between EDI and Germany in 2010. 99.82% of them were scheduled passengers.
The GLA figure for 2010 was 91,312 whilst PIK recorded no passengers on German routes.
These figures mean that EDI captured 86.17% of the Scottish Central Belt’s market on German routes in 2010.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 19:09
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Think there's a big UAE announcement coming , but it won't involve EDI !
So irrelevant here?
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 19:15
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No Emirates at EDI then...? Highly relevant in here I would have thought for us interested in EDI. A bit of a body blow for the 'new EDI' if it comes to fruition.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 19:34
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Berlin - LGW 23000
Berlin - STN 19000
Berlin - LPL 11000
Berlin - GLA 7300
Berlin - BRS 6700
Berlin - EDI 3900

CAA Sept 2011
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 20:00
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No Emirates at EDI then...?
Given the announcement is coming from Qatar?gulfnews : Qatar Airways to have strong presence at airshow
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Who said anything about Qatar ?
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Old 10th Nov 2011, 07:42
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I have no idea what this rumoured UAE announcement may be but, in terms of sustainability (i.e. something that will last rather than being tried for a season and then dropped) the best result would be EK going double daily at GLA rather than another Gulf carrier coming to Scotland to split the market.
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Old 13th Nov 2011, 21:12
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What's happened to the 2nd daily CO/UA next year? Only seems to be the morning UA36/37 bookable on the website?

Thought EDI was a good route for Continental?
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