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Star Alliance at BRS
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I'm wondering what the chances of seeing a Star Alliance airline set up shop at Bristol? OneWorld and SkyTeam are represented, but it's a bit hard for us Star fliers to keep trekking to BHX and LHR.
I use Star (LH/UA/OS/TG/SQ) to do long haul out to the US, Asia and Australia, as well as short stuff into Germany and Austria. In that respect, having the MUC and FRA routes run by BA isn't as helpful as if they were run by BD/LH. The hubbing opportunities through FRA/MUC would be so much better when hooked up with a Star airline rather than BA, which is a bit "dead-ended".
I've asked LH, and they were very non-commital (they used to run BRS->DUS in the late 80's), and the airport was similarly unable to give any firm information. Maybe I'm missing a trick here? Maybe the existing KL arrangements through AMS are thought to be good enough (surely nobody takes SN through BRU as a serious hub?).
(In case you're wondering, I choose the Star airlines because a) where I fly is where they go and b) the service I've experienced has always been better on LH/SQ/OS/TG than BA/AF/QF etc. It's not a case of chasing my points around!).
I flew BRS->EWR and then LHR->JFK (on UA) in the same week, and the BRS flight got it by a whisker because of the convience. I can bear 31" seat pitch if it's only 20 minutes to the office when we land! Otherwise, I'd be in UA's Y-Cabin....
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I'm wondering what the chances of seeing a Star Alliance airline set up shop at Bristol? OneWorld and SkyTeam are represented, but it's a bit hard for us Star fliers to keep trekking to BHX and LHR.
I use Star (LH/UA/OS/TG/SQ) to do long haul out to the US, Asia and Australia, as well as short stuff into Germany and Austria. In that respect, having the MUC and FRA routes run by BA isn't as helpful as if they were run by BD/LH. The hubbing opportunities through FRA/MUC would be so much better when hooked up with a Star airline rather than BA, which is a bit "dead-ended".
I've asked LH, and they were very non-commital (they used to run BRS->DUS in the late 80's), and the airport was similarly unable to give any firm information. Maybe I'm missing a trick here? Maybe the existing KL arrangements through AMS are thought to be good enough (surely nobody takes SN through BRU as a serious hub?).
(In case you're wondering, I choose the Star airlines because a) where I fly is where they go and b) the service I've experienced has always been better on LH/SQ/OS/TG than BA/AF/QF etc. It's not a case of chasing my points around!).
I flew BRS->EWR and then LHR->JFK (on UA) in the same week, and the BRS flight got it by a whisker because of the convience. I can bear 31" seat pitch if it's only 20 minutes to the office when we land! Otherwise, I'd be in UA's Y-Cabin....
Nick
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I think you will find that its is a matter of when not if the Old Terminal will be demolished. The area would be used to put at least another 6 Parking stands on.
I know there were talks a while back on one of the airport press releases about routes to Shannon, Lisbon and Dusseldorf and surely it is only a matter of time before we see some routes to Scandinavia Copenhagen/Stockholm/Oslo etc. Warsaw and krakov and other Eastern European Countries have been Voiced and we have recently heard of a possible Boston route. According to another aircraft Forum it looks as if AA are targetting BRS as one of their next Wants in Europe, how true this is I don't know. Domestically there is still plenty of scope for NWI,LPL of course LON (When Brs has got all the Long Haul routes it wants) not to mention Ireand Scotland and the North East. Finally routes to Northern and southern France are so popular at the moment we may see some increase in these.
All of the above are of course Schedule Destinations so there is plenty of room for expansion and B_T may find a Star Alliance route or two coming into BRS.
I know there were talks a while back on one of the airport press releases about routes to Shannon, Lisbon and Dusseldorf and surely it is only a matter of time before we see some routes to Scandinavia Copenhagen/Stockholm/Oslo etc. Warsaw and krakov and other Eastern European Countries have been Voiced and we have recently heard of a possible Boston route. According to another aircraft Forum it looks as if AA are targetting BRS as one of their next Wants in Europe, how true this is I don't know. Domestically there is still plenty of scope for NWI,LPL of course LON (When Brs has got all the Long Haul routes it wants) not to mention Ireand Scotland and the North East. Finally routes to Northern and southern France are so popular at the moment we may see some increase in these.
All of the above are of course Schedule Destinations so there is plenty of room for expansion and B_T may find a Star Alliance route or two coming into BRS.
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Denim Air are/were flying for Aer Arran. And talking about different aircraft, what about today? A Dutch Air Force C130 and a Canadair CL229 fire-douser on delivery. At least I think it's a 229, it's one of those bright yellow things that looks a little like a Catalina!
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We have a FR on finals from MJV aparently for a fuel stop. Fuel must be axpensive in MJV...
....Isn't it wierd how it is not stopping with our friends and their Orange dot out in CWL?!!!
....Isn't it wierd how it is not stopping with our friends and their Orange dot out in CWL?!!!
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Fernando,
Many thanks for that.
On a different topic does anyone know why KLM Cityhopper have begun cancelling flights recently?
I note that the morning inbound (KL 1047) plus the return (KL 1048) have been cancelled today. This flight was also cancelled on 20 May (the day of the first CO to EWR).
In recent weeks one of the two afternoon rotations has also been cancelled on more than one occasion.
As someone who has used this service a lot over the years, and would hope to do so again, this apparent unreliability is a source of concern, especially when inter-continental connections at AMS are involved.
Many thanks for that.
On a different topic does anyone know why KLM Cityhopper have begun cancelling flights recently?
I note that the morning inbound (KL 1047) plus the return (KL 1048) have been cancelled today. This flight was also cancelled on 20 May (the day of the first CO to EWR).
In recent weeks one of the two afternoon rotations has also been cancelled on more than one occasion.
As someone who has used this service a lot over the years, and would hope to do so again, this apparent unreliability is a source of concern, especially when inter-continental connections at AMS are involved.
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Winter 05/06 scheduled flying
Any rumors or idea's on the scheduled airlines plans for the winter? I see BA have added a Sat service to ZRH over the ski season. Are Easy or BA likely to add new destinations?
How are SN Brussels doing at BRS any indication of larger a/c required? Also are KLM likely to add any additional frequency or increase capacity?
How are SN Brussels doing at BRS any indication of larger a/c required? Also are KLM likely to add any additional frequency or increase capacity?
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easyJet will commence services to Mahon from the 23rd July. Operates for the summer only.
Flights depart Tuesdays and Saturdays.
http://www.easyjet.com/EN/News/20050602_01.html
Flights depart Tuesdays and Saturdays.
http://www.easyjet.com/EN/News/20050602_01.html
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Given that INV/MJV/PSA will have started by then, which Tuesday/Saturday flights will they be dropping?
Or are they going to introduce an extra flight per day for one of the aircraft, it's already tight with Nice/Palma flights daily.
MH.
Or are they going to introduce an extra flight per day for one of the aircraft, it's already tight with Nice/Palma flights daily.
MH.
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From what I can see the BUD is taken off its tuesday rotation and the MAD is taken off its Saturday rotation to accomadate the Mahon.
Can't see a LON route for a few years yet probably sort out all of the routes they want direct before offering a LON with connection. It would be nice to see a FR dot over BRS though!!!
Can't see a LON route for a few years yet probably sort out all of the routes they want direct before offering a LON with connection. It would be nice to see a FR dot over BRS though!!!
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I think they might have looked at which flights were not performing on specific days (BUD/MAD) and then looked at the slot situation. It would be nice to see IBZ but I think MAH would work.
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Interesting move, although the MAH is only on for five weeks - basically during the long school holidays.
I wonder if easy will do better with the MAH on the two days a week it is to operate rather than keeping with the MAD and BUD on those days.
A look back suggests the MAH will need huge loads to better the MAD and BUD.
The now defunct CPH route commenced 12 months before the MAD and BUD routes but started slowly, with 4102, 6012, 6358 and 6573 monthly pax in the Jan, Feb, March and April of its first months of operation. However, by July and August it had built up to 7534 and 7608 monthly pax respectively.
The MAD and BUD have started more strongly. MAD shows 5446, 6547, 7972 and 7275 monthly pax in Jan, Feb, March and April respectively whilst BUD had 5851, 6588, 7789 and 7154 in the same months.
If the CPH experience is followed it might be expected that by July and Aug both MAD and BUD would be around 8,000 per month, so MAH will have to do exceptionally well in capturing passengers to even equal this (pro rata).
However, I am sure easy knows what it is doing, and of course loads are secondary to yields as I keep being told.
I wonder if easy will do better with the MAH on the two days a week it is to operate rather than keeping with the MAD and BUD on those days.
A look back suggests the MAH will need huge loads to better the MAD and BUD.
The now defunct CPH route commenced 12 months before the MAD and BUD routes but started slowly, with 4102, 6012, 6358 and 6573 monthly pax in the Jan, Feb, March and April of its first months of operation. However, by July and August it had built up to 7534 and 7608 monthly pax respectively.
The MAD and BUD have started more strongly. MAD shows 5446, 6547, 7972 and 7275 monthly pax in Jan, Feb, March and April respectively whilst BUD had 5851, 6588, 7789 and 7154 in the same months.
If the CPH experience is followed it might be expected that by July and Aug both MAD and BUD would be around 8,000 per month, so MAH will have to do exceptionally well in capturing passengers to even equal this (pro rata).
However, I am sure easy knows what it is doing, and of course loads are secondary to yields as I keep being told.
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Lovely day in the south west so I thought I would have a wander out to Bristol Airport. It was very busy in the middle part of the day with the added 'attraction' of the callibrator aircraft operating most of the time.
At one point nothing appeared to be able to land for a while with the interesting spectacle of four or five aircraft circling overhead. Not sure if this was directly related to the callibrator although engineers seemed to be working on the equipment towards the western end.
However, my main point is the CO from/to EWR. It had an interesting day, arriving over four hours late, then finding that an interloper had sneaked onto stand two and had to be pushed back and 'banished' to the western apron (apparently still full of pax) for the late running transatlantic to gain its 'rightful' berth.
When the time came for the CO to return to the USA the live runway had been changed from 09 to 27 for callibration purposes, despite a downwind breeze.
The CO was asked if he could get off on 27 and replied in the affirmative. Immediately before its takeoff run the wind was out of 90 at 6 knots (it seemed to be moving between 90 and 130 and between 6 and 8 knots in the minutes either side of the take-off). The 757 (still no winglets) seemed to have considerable runway to spare as it lifted off.
I don't know how heavily it was loaded but an unwingletted 757 getting airborn with a following breeze and with apparent ease (the day brought out the poet in me) can surely be no bad thing for BRS's confidence. Furthermore, does this mean that a wingletted 757 could get off under the most unfavourable conditions and, if so, is this an end to the conjecture about BRS, CO and the runway?
At one point nothing appeared to be able to land for a while with the interesting spectacle of four or five aircraft circling overhead. Not sure if this was directly related to the callibrator although engineers seemed to be working on the equipment towards the western end.
However, my main point is the CO from/to EWR. It had an interesting day, arriving over four hours late, then finding that an interloper had sneaked onto stand two and had to be pushed back and 'banished' to the western apron (apparently still full of pax) for the late running transatlantic to gain its 'rightful' berth.
When the time came for the CO to return to the USA the live runway had been changed from 09 to 27 for callibration purposes, despite a downwind breeze.
The CO was asked if he could get off on 27 and replied in the affirmative. Immediately before its takeoff run the wind was out of 90 at 6 knots (it seemed to be moving between 90 and 130 and between 6 and 8 knots in the minutes either side of the take-off). The 757 (still no winglets) seemed to have considerable runway to spare as it lifted off.
I don't know how heavily it was loaded but an unwingletted 757 getting airborn with a following breeze and with apparent ease (the day brought out the poet in me) can surely be no bad thing for BRS's confidence. Furthermore, does this mean that a wingletted 757 could get off under the most unfavourable conditions and, if so, is this an end to the conjecture about BRS, CO and the runway?
