LEEDS

[INKJET]

Time for LBA to dust off its plans to put a another taxy way in to save the back track. Looks like more "your No 4, speed back to 180"

It will be very interesting to see how the Southern arrival tracks fit in with Donny departures next year. Does any know if there are plans to change the airspace over South Yorkshire?

Best of Luck to Flybe & Airsouth west and a warm welcome from all in Gods own county

Cheers

Burt

[Mooncrest]

Be nice to see some routes into France and Germany, such as Toulouse, Lyon, Berlin and Dusseldorf. Rather see jets than props doing them though, especially on the longer trips. However, to get the routes and their markets established is a big step in the right direction. Sorry to thread creep but...we could really do with some more IT flights now. There, I've said it !

[bmifox]

Well said Mooncrest! i really must congratulate the team at LBIA for their no doubt hard work in getting Air Southwest and Flybe to start and increase their operations from LBA!
I wonder if something gave them a kick up the arse this Summer?

[INKJET]

bmifox

I think you certainly contributed to developements at Leeds, well done! But afore everyone is pop'in champange its worth remembering that at least in Flybe case these flights are half a year away and Flybe can be flyby night if things change, They set up camp at Leeds before, walked on LCY then cleared off to Belfast, they are rather prone to cancel flight as well!! just watch wed and thursday when the Leeds FZFG sets in!!

I am just so glad Jet2 have Cat3 kit (and the crews have their cars in the car park!!)
Cheers

Burt

[bmifox]

Astraeus Summer 2005?

I know it's still early days but the Airtours website now shows 5 flights from LBA next summer to REU, PMI, ALC, AGP and IBZ with AEU flight codes. The timings are all for morning departures from LBA on Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon and Tue landing back early afternoon. Trouble is i can't find them doing anything in the afternoons or nights! Only thing i can think of is that the times will change and these 5 flights will W into LBA from elsewhere. The daft thing is that there is enough work to base an aircraft at LBA for 5 days already. On Fridays Airtours charters AEA to TFS and PGT to DLM. On Saturdays AEA to LPA and MYT to PMI so if Astraeus took over these 4 flights that should be nearly 4 days of work. Maybe bring back the LCA on Sunday/Monday on a smaller aircraft (737-700). Again on Tuesdays Airtours currently charter KMC for MLA and MON for PMI. Why not just keep Astraeus for an extra day to operate these 2 flights and maybe bring back a night HER that operated for the past few years with TV on Tue evenings.

[LGWAlan]

bmifox

Great efforts on improving LBA before I go any further

As I see it at present the LBA charter schedule from MYT for S05 is as follows:

Mon
REU 0800-1120/1220-1335 AEU TBA

Tue
ALC 0820-1200/1300-1450 TBA
PMI 1730-2100/1430-1600 AEU TBA
MLA 1910-2330/1600-1820 KM TBA

Wed
FUE 1330-1730/0830-1230 LTE377/6

Thur
ACE 1455-1845/0930-1335 IWD3450/49

Fri
IBZ 0615-0950/1050-1235 AEU TBA
MAH 1340-1710/1805-1940 - TBA though it does tie in to an afternoon rotation following the IBZ - possibly the AEU?
TFS 1300-1730/0740-1200 AEA208/7
DLM 1055-1720/0710-0955 PG TBA

Sat
ALC 0605-0945/1045-1235 AEU TBA
FAO 1420-1715/1015-1315 TBA
LPA 0010*-0440*/1740-2210 AEA296/5
PMI 1535-1905/1240-1420 MYT391/2

Sun
AGP 0800-1150/1250-1445 AEU TBA

Taking this one step further, I see the full charter times for S05 as:

Mon
REU 0800-1150/1250-1445 AEU TBA
ZTH 0745-1315/1415-1555 BY148A/B
DLM 1735-2345/0045-0415 BY197A/B
DLM 1030-????/????-0930 XQ161/0
BOJ 1830-????/????-1730 LZ ?

Tue
ALC 0620-1020/1120-1310 BY310A/B
ALC 0820-1200/1300-1450 TBA
TFS 1440-1915/2015-0025 BY366A/B
PMI 1730-2100/1430-1600 AEU TBA
MLA 1910-2330/1600-1820 KM TBA

Wed
FUE 1330-1730/0830-1230 LTE377/6
MAH 0730-1105/1950-2125 BY213A/B

Thur
ACE 1455-1845/0930-1335 IWD3450/49
FAO 1420-????/????-1315 FCA2412/1
FAO 0700-1000/1100-1350 MYT5614/5664 - can't see this operating
PMI 0730-1100/1940-2115 BY277A/B

Fri
CFU 0700-1215/2230-2355 BY089A/B
IBZ 0615-0950/1050-1235 AEU TBA
MAH 1340-1710/1805-1940 TBA
TFS 1300-1730/0740-1200 AEA208/7
DLM 1055-1720/0710-0955 PGT TBA

Sat
ALC 0605-0945/1045-1235 AEU TBA
FAO 1420-1715/1015-1315 TBA
LPA 0010*-0440*/1740-2210 AEA296/5
REU 0650-1010/1110-1220 BY468A/B
AGP 1350-1755/1855-2050 BY076A/B
IBZ 2225-0205/0305-0440 BY587A/B
PMI 1645-????/????-1545 AEA638/7
PMI 1535-1905/1240-1420 MYT391/2
VRN 0900-1220/2020-2140 KL7851/2
PSA 0700-1040/1110-1240 BD7991/2

Sun
PMI 0705-1035/1925-2100 BY329A/B
AGP 0800-1150/1250-1445 AEU TBA
IBZ 1815-????/????-1715 IWD TBA
VAR 1900-????/????-1800 LZ TBA

[Mooncrest]

Nice to see Zakynthos again after some ten or eleven years' absence. Just out of interest, is BY planning on using a 767 again for part of next season ? Only, I seem to remember the parking apron at Zak ain't all that big and a 767 could occupy a lot of room.

Bmifox makes some interesting points about Astraeus doing more
for Airtours than currently planned. It'll certainly make a change to have them around.

I've read today that Flybe is looking at the likes of Bergerac and Bordeaux possibly for summer 2006 from LBA. They'll probably find they've been beaten to it by then by someone else ! Don't like to speculate but on my travels through the airport today, I couldn't help noticing several large cardboard boxes bearing 'bmibaby' labels. It probably means absolutely nothing of any significance whatsoever but you never know.

[INKJET]

MONNCREST

I wouldn't get your hopes up, bmi's fight against other carriers amounts to no more than sending staff around with "baby" bomber jackets. baby is looking more and more still born! i reckon Flybe have announced more new routes in the last week than the bmi group have all year.

I think they are set to be let down again by the CCA this Friday on the India routes. Some outfits punch above their weight other don't seem to be able to land a punch at all, you judge!

Cheers

Burt

[NEW-CREW]

Possible new routes

I flew with Jet2 recently and on their pasenger survey there was a question as to wether people would be interested in seeing a German route... ie Munich, Berlin. Also noticed on the LBA website that theres another survey thing asking wether or not a route to New York would be useful.

Interesting stuff, especially the New York route, dont know who would offer it though.

[HOODED]

I believe Continental have expressed an interest in the past. I'd have thought a Pakistan route would have come before New York though judging by previous rumors. Jet2 to Germany is only a matter of time and if they don't get a move on they could be beaten to it by another carrier.

[bmifox]

I think WAW may be next on the list for Jet2. Anywhere in Germany would be good though.

[NEW-CREW]

Continental would be understandable because it also asks if potential pax wether or not they would still be interested in the route if it was to go via another airport. I think CO do New York flights from Glasgow and Edinburgh dont they? I think that would seem logical.

[INKJET]

New York -No Chance

Sadly the markrting team at Leeds are in pipe dream land and are try to blow smoke up your a**e. They hanker back after the days of Wardair & the sight of a 747 over the Leeds skyline (impresive though it t'was) either way you'll not get a useful payload out of Leeds west bound on anything that Continental have in their current fleet. If it means going via say LPL i'd rather go to Manchester or LHR than pratt about, the days of take off -land-take off-land are over, well at least for me.

Cheers

Burt

[ILS 119.5]

I suppose it's just like over emphasising the "new route to london city" when it has failed before.

[682ft AMSL]

LBA-EWR

The longest TODA available off of BRS (27) 3,016m, the shortest (09) is 2,071m. Leeds offers 3,169m (14) and 2,279m off of 32. LBA is about 60ft higher than BRS and great circle distance to EWR is the same. I'm not technically minded, but I thought TODA included obstacle clearance and thus the chevin issue off of 32 at Leeds is implicit in these numbers?? If so, why is BRS-EWR happening and LBA-EWR with the same airline & equipment, a 'pipe dream'

ILS - the point with LCY is they are not over emphasising the route but it is precisely what they should be doing considering FlyBe made such a mess of it a few years ago. Ironically enough, FlyBe demonstrated this week how to make a song and dance about not very much at all; bmi could learn some lessons from them

682

[nibor]

Well done to the team at LBA for the new scheduled routes just announced , now go and drag in the tour operators for S06.

I never got to see the apron during the busy days over summer.
please could anyone advise if the apron was able to accommodate all the aircraft or were there some holding delays due to a lack of stands?

I have completely lost count of how many nightstoppers there are planned over winter, so could someone update me and what are the current numbers planned for summer?

I hope that the apron expansion plans are in a very advanced state as it looks like the space will be needed sooner rather than later.
Anyone know of any firm plans for terminal expansion because i doubt the current facilities will be able to cope with the arriving flights over summer, never mind the departing ones.

Have the rumoured plans to move the central screening zone upstairs, opposite the food court been heard of in recent months?

Finally, how did the tent cope over the summer and just how temporary is it planned to be?


Cheers bye

(Maybe the future might not be so dull after all)

Note to self....must learn to proof read before pressing submit

[Going loco]

If runway length is an issue, EA and co could do worse than get a form of words from CO which indicatd their desire to run the route subject to a couple of hundred metres of concrete being laid. He then has a very tempting carrot to dangle in front of the council and planning board.

In the meantime, it'd be nice to see a few more routes from Jet2.
Can't believe there isn't more they could do from Leeds.

loco

[coasting]

I think there is scope for Jet 2 to announce routes from LBA to Budapest, Warsaw, Berlin, Cologne, Rome, Toulouse, Madrid, and dare I say it Gatwick, who I'm sure would do a better job at marketing the route than BMIR are doing with the LCY. Hopefully one or some new destinations will be announced very shortly, as JET2 seem to be on a roll at the moment.

[INKJET]

Going LoCo

I did read some where a while back that as "all the extra 300m required are within the air field boundry" that technicaly they do not need formal planning conscent, provide that it is a starter strip and not part of the LDA.

If the glide path was not moved then the clearence over the threshold and therefore everthing before it would be unchanged, it would also provide a more stable platform for the RA on CAT3 approaches. The TORA would still stop at the same point as now (although the ASDA would be greater) and therefore the climb out performance/ OBCL would be unchanged.

What the good people of Menston would notice is that in most cases (how many USA bound a/c a day would there be?) is that it would be a lot quieter for all aircraft, as the would reach the same height 300 m earlier on the climb out or use `flex` or derated thrust, which in turn would be less noisey.

It would of course move the T/O thrust noise further back towards Scotland lane, but fewer aircraft would need to use 14 with the extra length on 32 and the thrust settings would be lower in any event.

Can you imagine trying to `sell` that one to the anti noise protester????

Who knows with the extra length they might be able to re lay the whole runway like they did at EMA without closing it (much)

Cheers

Burt

[shark1]

No more informations about a launch of a Jet 2 Service from Leeds to Toulouse please ?