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From the Ryanair thread:
I don't suppose we'll have to hold our breath on this forum. Though someone did speculate about a Palma base. But still, I think we're safe enough. 
Looks as if a batch of new routes is about to be announced tomorrow (22.09.). FR organizes simultaneous press conferences in Spain, Italy, Poland (where else?).
It would seem a bit early for them to announce any new routes for summer '11, but you never know.
Palma and Malaga would be obvious choices. Any FR Palma would kill the charter out of Derry though, which would be a pity.
Palma and Malaga would be obvious choices. Any FR Palma would kill the charter out of Derry though, which would be a pity.
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Haven't seen any reports of new routes/bases from Ryanair today, or am I mistaken? Also any one know if there are pictures of the new departures configuration? I think it'd be great perhaps to get an Ibiza route from Derry, definitely would be sustained by drunken teenagers and students alike! Ryanair could even argue their route is fuelled by Bio-Ethanol!
Any conceivable chance of Easyjet or Flybe coming in to break CODA's dependence on Ryr?
Any conceivable chance of Easyjet or Flybe coming in to break CODA's dependence on Ryr?
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Haven't seen any reports of new routes/bases from Ryanair today, or am I mistaken? Also any one know if there are pictures of the new departures configuration? I think it'd be great perhaps to get an Ibiza route from Derry, definitely would be sustained by drunken teenagers and students alike! Ryanair could even argue their route is fuelled by Bio-Ethanol!
Any conceivable change of Easyjet or Flybe coming in to break CODA's dependence on Ryr?
Any conceivable change of Easyjet or Flybe coming in to break CODA's dependence on Ryr?
Would love to see some pictures of the new departure area myself. I wonder how big the new W H Smith shop is?
If another carrier is to arrive my money would be on Flybe because of their a/c size and possible routes they could start would be perfect for LDY.
I'm sure the airport are speaking with possible new airlines all the time, so you never know who might pop up in the next few years.
Article in today's Journal suggests a deal has been done, and BB will take over management of CODA:
Derry airport deal done - Derry Today
Any thoughts on implications?
Derry airport deal done - Derry Today
Any thoughts on implications?
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Meanwhile, passenger numbers at City of Derry have hit a five-year low, according to industry figures.
Statistics released by the Civil Aviation Authority show that a total of 37,416 passengers used the airport in July of this year, the lowest level since July 2005.
A CODA spokeswoman said: “It is hopeful that the number of flights will increase for the summer period 2011 in view of the fact that an increasing number of available seats are being sold."
Statistics released by the Civil Aviation Authority show that a total of 37,416 passengers used the airport in July of this year, the lowest level since July 2005.
A CODA spokeswoman said: “It is hopeful that the number of flights will increase for the summer period 2011 in view of the fact that an increasing number of available seats are being sold."
Increase in the number of flights for next year? Lets hope she knows something the rest of us don't.
The number of flights next summer could easily be increased without new routes.
I.e. 2xDaily STN; daily (as opposed to 5xWeekly) LPL; 6xWeekly BHX; 5xWeekly PIK. That's 24 extra flight already by adjusting the schedules on current routes.
AGP and PMI would work from LDY too.
The inevitable loss of RE would mean RYR may be the only operator at LDY next summer. Hopefully, another airline can be found to cover the obvious routes of BRS, MAN and EDI.
I.e. 2xDaily STN; daily (as opposed to 5xWeekly) LPL; 6xWeekly BHX; 5xWeekly PIK. That's 24 extra flight already by adjusting the schedules on current routes.
AGP and PMI would work from LDY too.
The inevitable loss of RE would mean RYR may be the only operator at LDY next summer. Hopefully, another airline can be found to cover the obvious routes of BRS, MAN and EDI.
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Is it right for me to be alarmed at BB's history of relations with Ryr? After all, Ryr has reduced or totally removed flights from both Exeter and Blackpool since BB began operating there... I hope that they can be influential in attracting the likes of Flybe though!
Northern, Ryanair have never operated from Exeter, which is and has been the base airport for Flybe (and all its previous guises).
They certainly did operate from Blackpool, but pulled out early in 2009 citing Blackpool Airport's introduction of a £10 per person development fee as the reason. As BB were 95% owners of the airport at the time, this must've been their idea. Whether BB intend to introduce such a fee at CODA, and whether DCC as owners would allow this, remains to be seen.
They certainly did operate from Blackpool, but pulled out early in 2009 citing Blackpool Airport's introduction of a £10 per person development fee as the reason. As BB were 95% owners of the airport at the time, this must've been their idea. Whether BB intend to introduce such a fee at CODA, and whether DCC as owners would allow this, remains to be seen.
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Whether BB intend to introduce such a fee at CODA, and whether DCC as owners would allow this, remains to be seen.
I mean are BB just operating the thing for a commision or are they leasing it as a going concern? Given the history of public sector agreements with the private sector, I hope this agreement isn't one sided.
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As BB were 95% owners of the airport at the time, this must've been their idea
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2xDaily STN; daily (as opposed to 5xWeekly) LPL; 6xWeekly BHX; 5xWeekly PIK. That's 24 extra flight already by adjusting the schedules on current routes.
Lack of a base so no dedicated aircraft to timetable properly instead having to rely on availability from other bases?
Low yields?
Low loads?
Better profit to be made using the aircraft elsewhere while Ryanair were growing rapidly and had fewer planes than now?
But Ryanair even parked up 14 aircraft last winter instead of using one for additional flights at LDY. You've got to ask why . . . .
STN was reduced because of cuts at STN. Out of the rest LPL has always performed well.
I'm not going to second-guess RYR's logic. Their recent withdrawal from BHD shows they have their very own brand of this.
Still, I have no doubt a reintroduction of double-daily STN would work, as would daily LPL.
I doubt RYR would pull out of LDY because of BB (and let's face it, if they've stuck it out at Derry this long, then it seems they will for a while yet), and I also doubt DCC would allow any action by BB to jeopardise the major carrier at the airport.
I'm not going to second-guess RYR's logic. Their recent withdrawal from BHD shows they have their very own brand of this.
Still, I have no doubt a reintroduction of double-daily STN would work, as would daily LPL.
I doubt RYR would pull out of LDY because of BB (and let's face it, if they've stuck it out at Derry this long, then it seems they will for a while yet), and I also doubt DCC would allow any action by BB to jeopardise the major carrier at the airport.
Is there the demand? I know the schedule used to look like that but it was reduced so one has to ask why?
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I suppose we can have some faith in DCC to ensure no ridiculous charges occur. I remember reading this http://www.ilex-urc.com/userfiles/Fi...nt_3_FINAL.pdf (Page 58)
were ilex stated they hope to have 15 scheduled routes by 2020... Surely we could have more. The ~40k that availed of the BRS route would be definitely suitable for a turboprop operator. Or what would be definitely nice would be if Flybe stationed one of its Embrear E175's once they arrive. That would do a couple of flights further afield like maybe Amsterdam, Paris etc. Closer to home I think Leeds Bradford would be a good option as well.
were ilex stated they hope to have 15 scheduled routes by 2020... Surely we could have more. The ~40k that availed of the BRS route would be definitely suitable for a turboprop operator. Or what would be definitely nice would be if Flybe stationed one of its Embrear E175's once they arrive. That would do a couple of flights further afield like maybe Amsterdam, Paris etc. Closer to home I think Leeds Bradford would be a good option as well.
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Seen this on a local website anyone else heard about it
Ryanair says it is committed to City of Derry Airport and is considering increasing flights from there in light of a recent decision to pull its services out of City of Belfast Airport.
The company is celebrating carrying over 2.5 million passengers at City of Derry since it started operating their in 1999.
Laszlo Tamas is a senior manager with Ryanair – he says the company is looking to expand its service in Derry:
Ryanair says it is committed to City of Derry Airport and is considering increasing flights from there in light of a recent decision to pull its services out of City of Belfast Airport.
The company is celebrating carrying over 2.5 million passengers at City of Derry since it started operating their in 1999.
Laszlo Tamas is a senior manager with Ryanair – he says the company is looking to expand its service in Derry:
I knew he was commenting on Derry as RYR have passed the 2.5million pax through LDY since they commenced their services.
Do you have a link to the website you're quoting there Stewart?
Do you have a link to the website you're quoting there Stewart?