Kenya Airways AB Initio Pilot Recruitment
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The psychometric is the morrisby profile. Google morrisby profile and do some practice questions on the computer. All the best guys. For more info you can PM me
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Guyz i know you are eager to get your wings and fly, but should it come at any cost? If there was something you could do to protect this career that you envy so much, would you not do it.
If eventually the airline is full of financially overburdened pilots, the terms and conditions of employment will be so Eroded it will not be what you think it is.
Only one person showed interest on how much pilots in KQ earn, i will not tell you how much, but i will tell you this, the Ab initios get deducted 133k a month to recover the loan.
So they either give them control over these funds or they go back to the old Ab initio programme,
Thanks All
PS: think carefully before getting yourself into this, especially if you are on a promising career path like actuary or medicine
If eventually the airline is full of financially overburdened pilots, the terms and conditions of employment will be so Eroded it will not be what you think it is.
Only one person showed interest on how much pilots in KQ earn, i will not tell you how much, but i will tell you this, the Ab initios get deducted 133k a month to recover the loan.
So they either give them control over these funds or they go back to the old Ab initio programme,
Thanks All
PS: think carefully before getting yourself into this, especially if you are on a promising career path like actuary or medicine
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@ Bolt,
that is the most selfish sentiment i have had from anyone in a while, what about those who want to make real careers out of it, support their families and enjoy the job while at it.
It is this myopic thinking that has made aviation a very poor paying job in the states and parts of Europe, pilots are quickly being reduced to paupers and mere drivers, because of your ilk, who would even pay airlines to fly instead of the other way round, and progressively eroding the terms and conditions of pilot employment.
I wish you all the best with your interviews, but i doubt if you will make it through the training if you get through, this career needs people who are focused and firm, and the wash out in SA gets the desperate ones like you.
Cheers
that is the most selfish sentiment i have had from anyone in a while, what about those who want to make real careers out of it, support their families and enjoy the job while at it.
It is this myopic thinking that has made aviation a very poor paying job in the states and parts of Europe, pilots are quickly being reduced to paupers and mere drivers, because of your ilk, who would even pay airlines to fly instead of the other way round, and progressively eroding the terms and conditions of pilot employment.
I wish you all the best with your interviews, but i doubt if you will make it through the training if you get through, this career needs people who are focused and firm, and the wash out in SA gets the desperate ones like you.
Cheers
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by the way this is not to discourage anyone from going through the recruitment, but ask the hard questions at the time of signing the dotted line.
note, there are people from other quarters putting the company to task over this issue, since the recently returned Ab initios are already finding it difficult to cope.
You are not on your own!
Goodluck to all of you who are already gong through the interviews
note, there are people from other quarters putting the company to task over this issue, since the recently returned Ab initios are already finding it difficult to cope.
You are not on your own!
Goodluck to all of you who are already gong through the interviews
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hi guys, i applied for ab initio program in june and up to now, no reply, i just updated my qualifications last week after i graduated, adding a degree,few days later, people were invited 4 interview, i dont understand! cud it be am overqualified??? am turning 25 next year march, dont knw if the next interview coulb be in time for me
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If your dream and passion is truly aviation, you wouldn't really care about the salary and stuff. Many people talk badly about Kenya Airways but I'm a firm believer that the pride of Africa is going places. I have a pal at KQ, same case as us but he ain't complaining, he's loving his career. The salary is enough to satisfy your needs unless you are a spendthrift. Stop listening to those discouraging voices and go for your dream.
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really wannabe? why did you then inbox me on how much KQ pilots earn if it's a non issue, hypocritical don't you think
, i know 100k looks enough when you are 19 and have no responsibilities, but remember that is how low you are benchmarking pilot salaries even for experienced guyz from wilson, who may have families and responsibilities and paid millions for their own training
, i know 100k looks enough when you are 19 and have no responsibilities, but remember that is how low you are benchmarking pilot salaries even for experienced guyz from wilson, who may have families and responsibilities and paid millions for their own training
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It's cause I wanted to see if you really got your facts right. Stop lying to people in this thread, the salary ain't 100,000 you just want to mislead people. Its more than 100,000. As I said I have a friend who has gone through this process successfully and is flying the Boeing 737-800. Yes I am 19 years and very proud of it, its really childish of you to use my age just to get at me. Those of you who wish to listen to @UA405 go ahead and do so but I would suggest you hear it straight from an Ab initio cadet for yourself first before listening to people who go around spreading lies just because they either didn't make it or they got cut off during their training. I've heard so many rumours of the like, "KQ Ab Initio is a corrupt process", "43 air school is racist", "KQ fires cadets after a while." All these are just rumours rumours and more foolish rumours. KQ standards are high and that is why airlines like Emirates come to poach their pilots just cause they can pay you higher. Take note of what I've said, you will hear all this nonsense as you go on.
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The entry salary of a direct entry pilot and that of an Ab Initio cadet entry are very different because definately you have to pay back the loan. The direct entry, those who paid for their own training, is 300,000 excluding allowances and the salary is reviewed yearly. get your facts right young man. I maybe young but I know quite alot. Watch out guys for people who will mislead you
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To those going for the psychometric exam tomorrow Google "Morrisby profile" and do the practice questions, make sure you can write "S" and a reversed "S" very quick as you will b given 5 secs to do, then 10 then 20 seconds. Make sure your also creative with words as you will b given two middle letters and asked to construct as many words in just 2 minutes. You will also be asked to draw lines from one end to another through a gap and these gaps keep on decreasing in size. You will do it with your strongest hand first then the weakest. make sure you dont cheat about your weakest hand it might cost you. The test will take like about 3 hours or more. ALL THE BEST GUYS
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I totally agree with your sentiments regarding the ab initio process.It is the chance of a life time,some of us just want to fly,salaries should not be prioritized over an opportunity to achieve one's dreams.Raising that 5.4 milliion is no easy task,infact next to impossible for the average citizen,no bank gives you that kind of money without colossal collateral requirements.Fact is, for those who are genuinely passionate about becoming pilots,ab initio is light at the end of the tunnel,a career as an airline pilot is very alluring and rewarding.Only a fool or an entitled person would throw away such a wonderful opportunity.
UA405 Stop hating.
UA405 Stop hating.
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Point of correction, at no point did i volunteer salary info. for KQ pilots, i used 100k as a ball park figure since that is what my friend Bolt initially said he wouldn't mind earning, only info i volunteered was the amount guyz are being deducted.
No. 2 i haven't discouraged anyone from going through the process, i just said challenge the management on the loan expenditure before signing the dotted line, since it is you who will pay for it.
One poster has indicated that securing the 5.4 million isn't easy and that is why when it is secured under your name do you not have reason to be prudent and try to spend as little as is possible of it so you are not overburdened by the time you start work as a new F.O
It's interesting you bring up a 737 F.O's salary, you said it was 300k, was it, then you fall into the 30 pcnt tax bracket, so minus 90k, you remain with 210, is it, then a loan repayment of 130K, now you have what, 80k is it, and oh you still have your car loan to think of and Union obligations.
I didn;t undermine your age, i said you were young and as it were no real responsibilities, and they creep up with time, and a pilot job is not some corporate job where you will scale the corporate ladder with ever increasing salaries.
No. 2 i haven't discouraged anyone from going through the process, i just said challenge the management on the loan expenditure before signing the dotted line, since it is you who will pay for it.
One poster has indicated that securing the 5.4 million isn't easy and that is why when it is secured under your name do you not have reason to be prudent and try to spend as little as is possible of it so you are not overburdened by the time you start work as a new F.O
It's interesting you bring up a 737 F.O's salary, you said it was 300k, was it, then you fall into the 30 pcnt tax bracket, so minus 90k, you remain with 210, is it, then a loan repayment of 130K, now you have what, 80k is it, and oh you still have your car loan to think of and Union obligations.
I didn;t undermine your age, i said you were young and as it were no real responsibilities, and they creep up with time, and a pilot job is not some corporate job where you will scale the corporate ladder with ever increasing salaries.
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@ captain Ben,
are you not contradicting yourself just a little, when you say passionate wannabe's like you do not care about the pay, then you go on and say it is attractive to make a career out of flying because its alluring and rewarding, catch word here is reward, in employment terms it is ''PAY''.
Anyhow by all means give the career your best shot, but i am just against how cheated the new ab initios are with regards to this loans, all i am trying to bring to your attention is you are the ones to pay back these monies, so there should be some level of flexibility with regards to expenditure down south, or else they make it as it were before, a real scholarship where you only pay what was loaned and no interest.
The programme used to be full sponsorship with no repayent, then it was pay half, then it was paying full amount loan with no interest, then it became a loan that had a capped interest, now it is a commercial loan with variable rates,
what next? go through the interview and pay for your own training, then after that? interview, pay for your own training and pay to fly for KQ, coz that is where we are headed gentlemen.
They managed to get the cabincrew to pay for their training and pay to get in, and it eroded the terms of their employment, and the ones deemed expensive fired, you think it will never happen to pilots? think again, with all the desperation i sense here, it is coming pretty soon.
Enjoy the psych. test
are you not contradicting yourself just a little, when you say passionate wannabe's like you do not care about the pay, then you go on and say it is attractive to make a career out of flying because its alluring and rewarding, catch word here is reward, in employment terms it is ''PAY''.
Anyhow by all means give the career your best shot, but i am just against how cheated the new ab initios are with regards to this loans, all i am trying to bring to your attention is you are the ones to pay back these monies, so there should be some level of flexibility with regards to expenditure down south, or else they make it as it were before, a real scholarship where you only pay what was loaned and no interest.
The programme used to be full sponsorship with no repayent, then it was pay half, then it was paying full amount loan with no interest, then it became a loan that had a capped interest, now it is a commercial loan with variable rates,
what next? go through the interview and pay for your own training, then after that? interview, pay for your own training and pay to fly for KQ, coz that is where we are headed gentlemen.
They managed to get the cabincrew to pay for their training and pay to get in, and it eroded the terms of their employment, and the ones deemed expensive fired, you think it will never happen to pilots? think again, with all the desperation i sense here, it is coming pretty soon.
Enjoy the psych. test
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Really 80,000?? Really?? Well most people see the Ab Initio as a fundamental block towards a successful piloting career. Not everybody is well off to foot the bill by themselves. After all you can always leave KQ after the training bond to fly for other well paying carriers such as Qatar, Emirates and the like. Embrace some positivity boss it doesn't hurt
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Hello everyone? I will be taking the psychometric test today. All the best comrades! @wannabe, I agree with you. Any more information on what to expect? I appreciate your help guys.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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I realize that they are calling people so early for the psychometric. as for the guys who did their aptitude on Tuesday feel free to tell us when you are invited for the psychometric.
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its true that there is a consipiracy between coop and kq.yesterday when we were doing our aptitude sam lady called Egla made it clear that the money was not a sponsorship by kq but a commercial loan which attracts interest.kq only wears the guarantors hat.
When some of us will be settling in kenya from SA,we will be having a debt of more than 15M.
They do this because they know we are desparate to accomplish our dreams.
For those who will make it to SA,before you sign the dotted line ask for the facts from the vultures behind the desk who are eager to tripple the money in 18 months.
All the best
When some of us will be settling in kenya from SA,we will be having a debt of more than 15M.
They do this because they know we are desparate to accomplish our dreams.
For those who will make it to SA,before you sign the dotted line ask for the facts from the vultures behind the desk who are eager to tripple the money in 18 months.
All the best