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Old 17th Sep 2005, 07:01
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Question CAA fails FAA inspection ??????

Can some-one either confirm or deny the rumour that the SACAA recently had an inspection by the FAA , the result being that SACAA failed the inspection ????

Seeing that the SACAA controls all ZS reg aircraft and now that they have apparently failed this inspection and have been given a certain time period in which to get thier house in order.........what happens when this time period expires and the house is still in a mess?????

Does that mean that the FAA can stop all ZS registered aircraft from entering any FAA controlled airspace and would this not snowball into the JAA imposing the same restrictions ????
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VTS, my information is that the FAA did indeed visit with the clowns in Treur Close Waterfall Park.

They (the FAA) were unhappy about the type of person the SACAA were sending on inspections. They (the FAA) alleged that the inspectors are poorly qualified, have no experience and are not on par with the FAA inspectors performing the same duties. (this we all know)

They (the FAA) instructed the SACAA to get their house in order, employ suitably qualified people and make sure that the inspectors they send to the USA on inspections are not some exiled from Swaziland, Lesotho, Botswana, Nigeria, Uganda etc. employed in South Africa because he has the right skin color. Its common knowledge that the majority of the clowns employed at the SACAA have no friggin clue. For this reason, apparently so, the SACAA Board have decided to re-employ some suitably qualified white faces on a contract basis.

Should they fail, they (the FAA) will not allow any South African registered aircraft into its airspace, and they categorically stated that SAA can then fly its passengers into Mexico, and bus them into the USA. Class act my man, class act!

It sure will be interesting to see how the situation develops.
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It's about time some one gives the CAA a kick up the . They need a big wake up call, because the standards are dropping and we're soon to become like the rest of Africa.
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You are like the rest of Africa, my man! What's different?
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look on this post "crisis looming at SACAA" and you will find a person with a handle of "missouri" and it seems this person has serious inside info or he/she actually works there.
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Thank for that. At last someone has seen the light. Will it make a difference though? Hopefully yes Maybe wishfull thinking..............
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Place your bets that the only thing that will happen will be the change of the time of Sunset.
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You are like the rest of Africa
True but I was refering to the fact that we still have (barely) working nav aids and not as many accidents as the rest of the continent. But that only seems to be for now.

Funny I haven't heard anything about this in the newspapers yet. Government trying to keep it quiet?
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I see the "CAA Chief" responded on the drama with "moer Laat"

I would like him to say something here as well.

With his aviation background he must have seen the writing on the wall and he allowed it to continue to a where it is today.

Why, why, did you not stop it then, or was it not the right political thing to do.

CAA has a serious problem and I was just wondering whether you want to make a comeback. Some of us who know you and worked with you might support you.
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Should the FAA not find suffiecient inprovement, then apparently they downgrade the SACAA. They have recently downgraded Greece and Ghana CAA's. The implication is as suggested above. American airlines will most likely not fly into this airspace and ZS aircraft will not be allowed into US airspace.

I believe that on the previous site, a contributor made the point that with the Soccer World Cup coming up in 2010, perhaps Starlight Cruises will be the only transporter of foreign visitors to our shores!

If the public were made aware of the current situation, I am sure that they would be howling for heads to roll. I guess that is why the 'big' businessmen in this country fly their big private jets on foreign registers?!
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Life's Short-Fly Fast..... You're spot on. The "big boys" keep their airplanes on foreign registers. Norway, the BVI, Luxembourg etc. Toooo ashamed to be seen poling a ZS jet I guess!

Its a fact that the SACAA does'nt know its ar end from its head. Lots of mistakes. Recently heard that one of the black youngsters employed to become a flight inspector, was sent to a flying school to learn to fly, and had not solo'd in 70 hours of instruction. When the matter was raised at a meeting, the boss said and I quote: "Why worry about him not going solo in 70 hours. He needs 200 hours for a Com so leave him alone. He can solo at any time during the 200 hours of training".

That says it all!

Mind you, some of the idiots at SAA are not any better. The only thing that remains a class act at SAA, are the cockpit crews.

With regards to Trevor Abrahams..... yes, I would like to see him come back to the SACAA. He's the only dude that knows the ins and outs of it, and I believe that he can turn it around. There are people there that hopes he comes back. At least when he was there, there was a bit of discipline. Most of the people that tried to work him out have left the employ of the SACAA. Some were dismissed due to dishonesty, some resigned, and I guess some were fired. The "power struggle of South Africa".

Well come on Minister Radebe, get your department into gear and do something meaningfull for aviation. Put Trevor back in there! Its time!
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Exhaust - I was wondering the exact same thing. This should have been front page news (well maybe not front page but atleast page 2 or 3 ) I suppose the powers that be dont exactly want this to come out. People are already nervous of air travel can you imagine how they would feel if they knew how badly the standards are slipping - especially maintance standards. The CAA needs to get its act together... I think we are all in agreement here that they need more qualified people... forget colour concentrate on qualifications. Nepitism needs to go as well. Stop whining, get off your ar and do some work..... and hopefully in a couple of years time we will still have an aviation industry.
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The CAA in Crisis? What Crisis?

Hi Knoppiesdoring, I see you wrote:
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“I see the "CAA Chief" responded on the drama with "moer Laat"

I would like him to say something here as well.

With his aviation background he must have seen the writing on the wall and he allowed it to continue to a where it is today.

Why, why, did you not stop it then, or was it not the right political thing to do”

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Now my stint as Commissioner did thicken the epidermal layer quite a bit but I don’t believe good rumouring can be built on fiction alone.

Yes the developments in the CAA is a national disgrace, a disaster waiting for a location and a matter of deep personal disappointment to one who put in quite a bit of time into building a world class outfit – lets face it the DCA was not exactly a firm foundation to start of from.

Not to pat my own back, but the CAA to my departure had started attracting well qualified personnel at all levels, many of whom we were attracting from the industry, not the dregs of aviation, some of whom found a home in the DCA. ( I am not suggesting ALL the DCA employees were without merit).

We covered areas, which were hither to never done well or done at all, look at the medical officer (white female) in charge then – still an industry leader in the field, now outside the CAA. Look at aviation security and the joke we have operating there now, look at air show supervision and the expertise, which is no longer at the CAA, look at safety promotion and the team who took the show around the country etc. …..

We had world-class development programmes, which have now placed PDI inspectors with M.Sc. in aeronautical studies in the CAA. So much for qualifications … can’t guarantee the attitude in a rudderless ship.

Go back since I left the helm as CEO in December 2002 and add up the loss in qualifications of staff who have since left, were pushed or hounded out. By way of example, the IT manager, perceived a friend of the CEO was prosecuted only to have the CCMA rule against the CAA ( a cool R390,000 of your money owed to this IT manager by the CAA)

“Writing on the wall” Well what I did see is a board member who wanted me to employ some of his (unqualified) cronies. I resisted and they instituted a so called forensic audit (R750,000 of your loot for less than 1 months shoddy work – not my words, but the senior advocate who presided in my hearing.) and a subsequent disciplinary process (R3.28m .. you guessed …of your money) for a disciplinary process where 83% of the charges were kicked to boot, the rest were so ridiculous to land the CAA with a suite of R2m from myself.

There’s much more to say by Pprune has server limitations and maybe I could become an author one day.
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Well said Trev!

The current status of the SACAA is very much in the open. We've seen here on these forums postings by people in the know, people who have even quoted, from time to time, some very senior staff members from the SACAA. Most of the SACAA staff are known to us aviators, and I find it difficult to fathom out the system currently employed by the SACAA, their policy and a million of other things. A lot of things are wrong at the SACAA, but no one seems to care. No one seems to be taking the initiative to rectify the problem either. Jeff Radebe is absolutely "stuhm" on the matter, but he's a politician, so one really can't expect much from him.

In all frankness and openess, for the sake of "public safety" (thats what those idiots at the SACAA always say) lets look at the true scenario!

Sakhile Nyoni/Reiling stands up at a public meeting and tells the meeting that the SACAA Board have failed dismally at their task. She basically tells the meeting that they're useless, and they(the board) don't even bat an eye lid. (Like most employees at the SACAA) Yet SHE is happy to work only 1 or 2 days a week, because she is not a full time employee, but on contract. Instead of informing the Board of their shortcomings and where they have failed, she does'nt care 2 hoots, because as it is, she's hardly ever at the office and could'nt care about what goes on there. To get an appointment with her is just not possible. She's way too important and she NEVER has time for anyone. ("Call Anthea my secretary and she'll block off some time in my diary".... yeah right..... 5 attempts, no luck.... on 2 occassions she did'nt even pitch. 5 million excuses.)

Seboseso is an introvert, scared of people, and cannot look you in the eye. As far as I'm concerned, he's a dead friggin zero! Camp Zero for sure! What's he doing there guys? Drafting legislation to inconvenience Supervan, or what? ;-)

Gilbert Twhala is the biggest B r on two legs, and you know for sure that he's lying every time his lips move. I mean, come on Trev, what's a dude like that doing at the SACAA?

Obert Chakarisa spent 8 years at a prestigious French Aeronautical University and obtained various "prestigious" Aeronautical degrees, but can't even say good morning in French! Now that I find very strange. Apart from being a Zimbabwean, who by the way, when questioned about Zimbamboon land, will tell you what a great statesman Bob Mugarbage is, but yet he's living in sunny SA, on a fat pay package, and could'nt care 2 hoots about his starving brothers up north! Eesch!

This is the senior management at the SACAA. Its a disgrace ma broer! Not to forget the Part 121 boss, who by the way, used to fly a Fokker Jet for some Z t kingdom, and who had no idea how to manage the fuel system, with the result that he declared an emergency at JIA, after losing an engine, and nearly ploughed the airie into the ground. When the inspectors went aboard, they questioned the honorable Captain, who claimed an engine failure, but on closer inspection it appearred that the honorable captain did not know how to manage the fuel system. Now how does a guy like that get to be in command of a commercial airliner, and MOST OF ALL, how does hew get to be the boss of Part 121 at the SACAA? Beats me! Oh someone just said he's from the Royal Family. A Dhlamini! How could I be so forgetful? Yeah thats right!

Then lets look at the colorful, 39 year old playboy. Hugo Boss suits, Gucci shoes and a brand new Mercedes! Yes you've guessed it right! Our super "cewl, hip hop, super duper, ace helicopter pilot" and Part 127 Chief, Mr. Pule Ramalofi! This dude learned to fly on an ESCOM bursary, and after obtaining his Com License, he went to work at Saphire. Unfortunately, he could not make it there, coz he could'nt fly properly, with the result that he joined the SACAA as an inspector, and progressed to the "Chief in Charge" within 4 months. Another clown of note! Charismatic for sure though! By his own admission, "the chicks adore me man", especially after a few tequila shooters!" Ha Ha !

Who's next? Oh yes, don't forget the "brilliant, Einstein equipped, Intellectually challenged Dr. Emily #*$@+ whatever, the medical doctor. Mmmmm, thank goodness I'm not one of her patients, but yes, she's in charge of Aviation Medicine! Tequila addict for sure. Ask Pule!

I must'nt leave out the rotten, partly illeterate, legal department. Good "ol KC". Shafted Trevor, and in the process got caught up in his own corruption scam. Left the employ of the SACAA, and now I believe, he's the Airport Manager at Pietersburg..... on a salary of R1.2 million a year, but is never there, runs the airport from his carphone (Mercedes of course), and chases the chicks in Pretoria.... most of the time. The "super queen" Kim G left also, and I recently noticed him on the arm of Wrenelle Stander. My goodness, what a "queer" co-incidence! The rest of the legal team is not much to write about. They're still arguing whether they should take on Gary van der Merwe (after losing 4 cases) and which council to use. The village idiot, HW is still floating around the building, but most of the time he does'nt know who he is, or where he is. I think they call it PMS or MPD.

So Mr. CAA Chief, these are the main clowns that make up the F up SACAA. Do you honestly believe that these people are able to mak a significant contribution to civil aviation in SA?

I personally have my doubts, but hey, who am I to be so judgemental...... but prove me wrong ma bro!

Amandla!, Viva! Amandla! Long live Jeff, Isreal & most of the **%%##@@& ars es that pretend they know about aviation.

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Fiction does not make for good rumours

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You well versed in the problems at the CAA

A few minor edits ought to improve your outrage

1. Obert Chakarisa only spent one year and a few months (French language course) in France - some time back, which probably accounts for him forgetting his Bon Jour? Comme ca va? etc.

2. KC definitely has been the "xxxxxxxx in the pile", being the racist that he turned out to be - but then I employed him (we all make our mistakes).
He specializes in screwing young junior staff, laziness and back stabbing. Got booted out the CAA but then the next major Domo, ex-Ekurhuleni police chief, messed that up and resulted in KC get a CCMA award ( 3 months salary ... somewhat less than his legal costs).
Joined FAPB, stabbed the then airport manager in the back who got fired. Guess what, KC later got fired from there too. Now joined City Deep as legal eagle... girls there beware.

3. There is a new board in place. The entire old board were booted out as they had in fact become disfunctional. Could not even agree on a new CEO.

New chairman is Duke Moorosi, ex-SAA in charge of pax services, pilot who held ATPL in Lesotho. John Morrison, Southern African Airlines Assoc also there. So forward your complaints to them.

Now all we need to have "MINISTER" sign in.


Racist phrase deleted. 4HP

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Brilliant thread - absolutely fantastic! This is what this site is all about. I can literally smell the dirty laundry.

This is one hot potato.

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Is this whole situation going to add to the demise of SAA? They're cutting regional routes and if the CAA don't pull finger then SAA won't be able to go to the US anymore.

I would of thought that SAA would be making a bigger deal out of this.

Anyway, CAA is so full of people who don't know their ar e from their face that trying to fix this mess is going to take a while, especially with this whole BEE mentality. They need qualified people not just as many "previously disadvantaged" as they can find.
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Question Am I previously disadvantaged?



I came here a while ago from shores to the north of this fine country and sadly have quietly witnessed the steady decline of this instituion.

SA has been my home for the last few years and I love the place most dearly, however the BEE will kill this country and render it incapable of doing any serious business at any decent level outside of this continent.

It remains a pathetic joke of the first order that flight inspectors are recruited after having completed a comm and then given the powers to act thereafter.

I simply cannot see why this beloved country carries on so. The goings on at the CAA are just SO, SO farcical that it sometimes truly beggars belief. Too fail an inspection from another authority is to make a public statement of gross and overwhelming incompetance that has no excuses whatsoever. There can be no cheap back peddling on this one.

An emergency effort to recruit intelligent, keen, knowledgable and competant people irrespective of colour must now commence. Cast aside the need for BEE; the very integrity of the CAA and the SA aviation industry is at stake and mud sticks.
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"CAA Chief"
Thankyou for responding.

We can carry on with the 'dirty washing' till pprune runs out of memory but it is not going to help. Some how someone is going to have to stand up and take CAA to task.

You have invited the Minister to respond, but I cannot see that happening, surely you still have his ear? Talk to him. This mess can only be sorted out from the top.

And,I see there are also others that share my view that you should make a come back.

'Alwaysinverted" between you and Missouri you have given us some interesting info but I believe we should now all stand together and try and resolve it.
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Post Flight Ban

The South African CAA failed the FAA audit recently. This may result in a ban on flights to the USA by all SA registered aircraft if they do not get their house in order. The ICAO audit is to follow in about 18 month. Failure of this audit may result in a flight ban to Europe.

It is sad to see that South Africa is now in line with most of Africa in their inability to keep up standards to an acceptable level. The major cause of this drop in standards is non other than a flailing and inept administration who are placing incompetent and un-qualified people in post through the forced process of Black Economic Empowerment.
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