406 down in tz
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hi guys,
just got this via "sms" believe it or not,
a cessna 406 has crashed in HTAR,possibly due to engine failure on take-off...details of the accident to follow.....
keep it up there fellows,
no more 406pilot
just got this via "sms" believe it or not,
a cessna 406 has crashed in HTAR,possibly due to engine failure on take-off...details of the accident to follow.....
keep it up there fellows,
no more 406pilot
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hi guys/hmm and the gals..
yeah everyone is "alive and kicking" indeed a silver lining happened on rwy 27...HTAR.
another pt6 down......where helldog when u need him...
keep it up there
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yeah everyone is "alive and kicking" indeed a silver lining happened on rwy 27...HTAR.
another pt6 down......where helldog when u need him...
keep it up there
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The 406 was from Regional Air, and after engine failure went sliding across the grass. There was a God watching over everybody yesterday in Arusha: the tarmac was full, the ATR was loading its passenger, airplanes were at the pump refueling, and the 406 came sliding a few small meters from them. Things could have gone really wrong.
The pilot had also survived a nasty Caravan crash, with PT6 engine failure, on take-off from HTLM a few months back.
The pilot had also survived a nasty Caravan crash, with PT6 engine failure, on take-off from HTLM a few months back.
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well , as reported , i can confirm that everybody was unscratched after the event .the pilot went home driving his own car , and our pax (bow low to their nerves ) were on their way shortly after on our twotter .Other than that , the A/C is in ruin : props folded , LDG gear twisted , one wing bend , fuselage bend , cargo pod in smitherens .... not much hope for that one .That particular aircraft had already gone through a minor prang in olkiombo , kenya a few years back and was subsequently sold to executive turbines , SA ...
TCAA was investigating today and it looks like our engineers and bosses from the city in the sun are on their way for more .
well , time to drown the sorrows in something fizzy.
night night
TCAA was investigating today and it looks like our engineers and bosses from the city in the sun are on their way for more .
well , time to drown the sorrows in something fizzy.
night night
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Yep close shave for a few people there. There is a new girl flying for the Flying Medical Service, I hear the left wing missed her leg by about one foot! She must have needed a panty change after that. At least all pax and the pilot were ok. There is a theory or two floating around. But due to the fact that I know the pilot and the rest of the RAS crew, I will wait for facts. Cheers.
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hello guys...
Wellcome back helldog, i was wondering how long u were gonna keep away from pprune....anyways first things first who is this new chick @ flying medical,i do recal one such adventurous blonde who kept making left turn outs on rwy 09 in a fully loaded 206,until her luck gave up on her,wonder if she's back...
a big hello goes to perceval, could you please give my "pole sana" to the pilot.
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ps: Helldog there is another forum called" "let410 down in tz" waiting for your feed back....any luck with the 727???
Wellcome back helldog, i was wondering how long u were gonna keep away from pprune....anyways first things first who is this new chick @ flying medical,i do recal one such adventurous blonde who kept making left turn outs on rwy 09 in a fully loaded 206,until her luck gave up on her,wonder if she's back...
a big hello goes to perceval, could you please give my "pole sana" to the pilot.
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ps: Helldog there is another forum called" "let410 down in tz" waiting for your feed back....any luck with the 727???
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Hey 406 dude. Yep that chick is back, well she never left. She is a top bird though, and she did learn a valuable lesson about the old left turn off 09. But at least she admits it was a mistake and she tells people about it so a similar thing does not happen to them. But it was another girl who almost had her legs cut off by the 406 wing.
I have no comment on the Let I have not even seen it. I am quite sure that this is a fact- both pilots are susspended for now.
Also looks like this 406 had a turbine blade failure, thats prelim.
Cheers
I have no comment on the Let I have not even seen it. I am quite sure that this is a fact- both pilots are susspended for now.
Also looks like this 406 had a turbine blade failure, thats prelim.
Cheers
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it sure is nice to be reading your expert comments mr.helldog...yeah i agree she is a top cat that flying medical chick...rumour goes that as the 406 was busy slipping,pax off the atr were actually running for their lives,must have been quite a scene ...huh
keep it up there fellows,
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keep it up there fellows,
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photos of the plane after the crash. impressive! follow the link and go to "406 crash HTAR"
http://photos.yahoo.com/chrisfavro
http://photos.yahoo.com/chrisfavro
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Hello there Guys
Sorry to hear about ol Freddie, Again !
Hey 406 I thought your dege had good single engine performance ?
Can you shed some light on this buddy, surely Mikey will have a lot to say about this.
after all he is the best 406 man around
Sorry to hear about ol Freddie, Again !
Hey 406 I thought your dege had good single engine performance ?
Can you shed some light on this buddy, surely Mikey will have a lot to say about this.
after all he is the best 406 man around
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I think Mikey the G 
would have said "why did he try to land! the plane has enough on one engine to go around! I would have gone to Kili! I would have stayed in the air! Forever!" 
Good question Lone Falcon, I was thinking about it this weekend: the cross-wind was very bad and he didn't want to try a full approach on 1 engine in those gusty conditions. With the Manyara accident in mind, he just wanted to be back on the ground a.s.a.p. He just lost an engine, didn't know the cause, didn't want to risk it on the other one, thinking it could fail too. Kili? too far.
You would know what were the company recommendation/procedures for EFATO (on the Twotter) when you were there?
I am sure that if the wind would have been calm he would have kept it on the rwy.
Sijui!!
would have said "why did he try to land! the plane has enough on one engine to go around! I would have gone to Kili! I would have stayed in the air! Forever!" Good question Lone Falcon, I was thinking about it this weekend: the cross-wind was very bad and he didn't want to try a full approach on 1 engine in those gusty conditions. With the Manyara accident in mind, he just wanted to be back on the ground a.s.a.p. He just lost an engine, didn't know the cause, didn't want to risk it on the other one, thinking it could fail too. Kili? too far.
You would know what were the company recommendation/procedures for EFATO (on the Twotter) when you were there?
I am sure that if the wind would have been calm he would have kept it on the rwy.
Sijui!!
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I see some expert here having some big speculation around what happened.
I will speculate too then.I would believe in case of an engine failure you do your best to control the aircraft and bring everyone safe on the ground and not try to remember what are recommendations/procedures given by the company.
I do believe he did run out of the runway due to a lost of control induce by the assymetric thrust given by the live engine.(I do believe he was with take off power).Then the speed went below VMCa and he lost control.
But like i said earlier sijui.
I will speculate too then.I would believe in case of an engine failure you do your best to control the aircraft and bring everyone safe on the ground and not try to remember what are recommendations/procedures given by the company.
I do believe he did run out of the runway due to a lost of control induce by the assymetric thrust given by the live engine.(I do believe he was with take off power).Then the speed went below VMCa and he lost control.
But like i said earlier sijui.
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and of course, as a non-expert who don't know much I would add that maybe, somehow, possibly, in case he had cut off the second (operating) engine before touching down (as he was about 30 feet in the air when the engine failure occured), the 20 to 30 knots N-NW wind may have also possible somehow helped to push him out of the rwy.
But there again, I am only a private pilot and no nothin'
But there again, I am only a private pilot and no nothin'
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Hey I agree with JP , the most important thing at the end is to save everybody and that's what the 406 driver did in Arusha .
Also guys you have to remember that the 406 is not a FAR/JAR 25 certified airplane so it will not meet the climb requirement on the second segment , etc ...
Even if the 406 is a great plane I recall during my "type rating" that the climb performance at N-1 was not that impressive at mid weight and sea level , so if you consider the density alitude of Arusha during 30 degrees celcius day I do not think that anybody can affirm that he would have been able to climb.
Also guys you have to remember that the 406 is not a FAR/JAR 25 certified airplane so it will not meet the climb requirement on the second segment , etc ...
Even if the 406 is a great plane I recall during my "type rating" that the climb performance at N-1 was not that impressive at mid weight and sea level , so if you consider the density alitude of Arusha during 30 degrees celcius day I do not think that anybody can affirm that he would have been able to climb.
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Thanks Gusto, at last the technical linguo and the right explaination. I woul dhave done the same though, wind or no wind, as long as there's plenty of runway left, just land the plane.