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I assume the list is just a comprehensive coverage of all Sala-related flights. What emerges from under those stones may offer insight into all the related issues. |
If as has been suggested this has been raised and re-raised over a 7 year period what is so easy to investigate now that proved so difficult to get on top of before??
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The football "transfer window" may be closed, but business trips surely still have to be arranged as managers and football club scouts travel to watch potential transfer targets. After all the attention Cardiff City F.C. has attracted, one wonders how its manager and associated agents arrange their flights.
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Both planes were registered in America, which means they cannot be flown commercially
From report on BBC website referring to a/c used on some of the flights listed:
'Both planes were registered in America, which means they cannot be flown commercially in Europe without the express permission of US regulator, the Federal Aviation Authority, and the CAA. The flights were listed on flight plans, as non-commercial. BBC Wales has discovered that eight days after the plane carrying Sala crashed, one of these planes was de-registered in the US and re-registered as a Guernsey-based plane. It was then placed on the company's AOC.' |
oops! No surprise here, I suppose. The plot thickens nicely. Now it needs the authorities to devote the time, energy and manpower to follow up this ... and all the other cases. |
Originally Posted by parabatix
(Post 10423990)
From report on BBC website referring to a/c used on some of the flights listed:
'Both planes were registered in America, which means they cannot be flown commercially in Europe without the express permission of US regulator, the Federal Aviation Authority, and the CAA. The flights were listed on flight plans, as non-commercial. BBC Wales has discovered that eight days after the plane carrying Sala crashed, one of these planes was de-registered in the US and re-registered as a Guernsey-based plane. It was then placed on the company's AOC.' An attempt to cover the traces?? |
Originally Posted by Gurnard
(Post 10424061)
The aircraft concerned - Eclipse EA500 N531EA became 2-JEZA.
An attempt to cover the traces?? |
No, as mentioned in an earlier post, not OK for a US-registered aircraft to operate commercially under a Guernsey AOC, or at all if it is Part-91
Also, as Channel Jets is a Guernsey AOC, and Guernsey is non-UK and non-EU, they can't operate even a 2-REG aircraft commercially to/from UK or EU without a permit from the Authorities at both ends (e.g. a flight from France to UK would need a permit from both France and the UK) |
Originally Posted by Gurnard
(Post 10424061)
The aircraft concerned - Eclipse EA500 N531EA became 2-JEZA.
An attempt to cover the traces?? |
Originally Posted by korrol
(Post 10423553)
Yes . Here is the list of flights which are being investigated by the Air Charter Association :-
So therefore, no cost sharing on any of the jets listed here. |
Complex aircraft?
PA46 and PC12 are not complex aircraft. The term ‘complex motor-powered aircraft’ is defined in Regulation (EC) No 216/2008 as follows: “‘complex motor-powered aircraft’ shall mean: (i) an aeroplane:
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FAA rules are wobbly prop, wobbly gear and flaps. It's a tad more detailed than that (!) but them's the basics.
So a Piper Arrow is complex. |
Australia follows the same rules Sam. Retractable undercarriage and variable pitch prop ratings seem logical to me. |
BTW EASA is an Agency; FAA is an Administration and CAA is an Authority.
Sad I know but I thought I'd mention it:8 |
With regard to the Cardiff City incident this story gets more bizzare by the day. This from the Guardian. Willie McKay, who is no longer registered as a football agent but helped his son Mark complete the ill-fated Sala transfer, has been the subject of an investigation by South Wales police over claims he threatened to kill staff at the Premier League club in a dispute about who is liable for damages following the death of Sala in a plane crash In a brief statement the Welsh force said the investigation “has been transferred to the Metropolitan police service”. It is understood at least one of the alleged threats has been claimed to have occurred in London and that was confirmed in a statement from the Metropolitan police on Thursday. “We] have received an allegation of a possible public order offence that took place at Kendall Street, W2 on Friday 22 February,” a spokesperson said. “Officers from central area command unit are investigating. No arrests have been made at this time.” Kendall Street is in an upmarket part of London north of Hyde Park and 22 February was six days after Sala’s funeral in Argentina. Apart from the ill fated Malibu another N reg Malibu was also involved in the saga. After Sala had signed up to play for Cardiff City, his agent Mr N'Diaye was flown back to Nantes on 18 January by Lord George Porchester, who flies his own Piper Malibu plane under the company name Altaclara. The son of the Earl of Caernarfon, whose family seat is used as a filming location for TV's Downton Abbey, he holds a private pilot's licence. As the plane is registered in the US, it cannot be flown commercially in Europe and Lord Porchester can only fly passengers in the EU on a cost-sharing basis, not for reward. Lord Porchester has told BBC Wales he flew Mr N'Diaye as a "favour" for Willie McKay and did not receive any payment for the flight. "I've got my own aircraft and I flew that flight," he said. "There was no financial arrangement at all with anyone, it was a private flight." He added: "I've been pulled into this because I've done someone a favour."
N14EF is registered in Wilmington Deleware to Altaclara Aviation. The same company with Lord Porchester at the helm is registered in the UK. Their company description contains the following; Renting and leasing of air passenger transport equipment |
Originally Posted by Air Snoop
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BTW EASA is an Agency; FAA is an Administration and CAA is an Authority.
Sad I know but I thought I'd mention it:8 |
Altclara Aviation was only formed 11 months ago and appears to have only one US registered aircraft. I will be surpised if they are operating it for public transport without all the necessary documentation. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....eff33c59f.jpeg |
...nonetheless I can find nothing for this George Herbert (Lord Porchester fellow DOB 13 Oct 92) on the FAA database. It seems likely we have another illegal flight as he would require an FAA licence to fly his N reg outside the UK. There is a George E Herbert but wrong DOB.
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Originally Posted by oggers
(Post 10426002)
...nonetheless I can find nothing for this George Herbert (Lord Porchester fellow DOB 13 Oct 92) on the FAA database. It seems likely we have another illegal flight as he would require an FAA licence to fly his N reg outside the UK. There is a George E Herbert but wrong DOB.
Try, Jules Thin Crust Limited Company number 09880949: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...80949/officers And : https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3455471.html And when he is not pulling lager or two and slapping Manuel around the kitchen, he might be taking a few of his diners on a jolley in his kite. Here is a picture of him: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3455471.html |
BBC Wales website (referred to earlier) identifies G-KARE as one aircraft connected with these activities.
"The plane they flew on - a Pilatus PC-12 single engine aircraft with the registration G-KARE - is operated by a company called Flexifly Aircraft Hire Limited, based in Surrey and linked to a care home provider." Company details identify Dr. Karen Graham as a director, thus the registration probably relates to her name. She appears also to be connected with Graham Care Ltd. |
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