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In fairness it could work if the route is a codeshare with the many airlines that currently codeshare with BE. Additionally if the route (presume it will) allows interlining it may be a success. That's if it's even Southend, but cant think of anywhere else it could be.
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Interestingly if this Southend comes off, it could make a return to the days of 3 scheduled London links.
The BA Cityflyer 'base' is also proposing a 1 weekly LCY flight to position the aircraft back to its weekday base, LCY-MAN on Thu and MAN-LCY on Sun.
While the latter London airport is only 1 weekly, it would be a scheduled link none the less and hence a 3rd London route. (Last time this happened was when LGW/LHR/STN were all served).
Strange turn of events considering the contraction of the market in recent years (incidentally LHR-MAN recorded an increase this winter for the first time in ages).
The BA Cityflyer 'base' is also proposing a 1 weekly LCY flight to position the aircraft back to its weekday base, LCY-MAN on Thu and MAN-LCY on Sun.
While the latter London airport is only 1 weekly, it would be a scheduled link none the less and hence a 3rd London route. (Last time this happened was when LGW/LHR/STN were all served).
Strange turn of events considering the contraction of the market in recent years (incidentally LHR-MAN recorded an increase this winter for the first time in ages).
Pity about Norwegian.
On the other hand I can't help thinking that what with the weaker pound, TCX and Virgin's own expansion plans, and AA/UA already contracting in the UK regions, the addition of Norwegian into the fray might have all proved a bit too much capacity for this summer. If the 17.8% capacity increase indicated by slot filings comes to fruition, that's still a very healthy growth.
Maybe NO will give MAN another shot in 2018, assuming they don't get Trumped in the meantime.
On the other hand I can't help thinking that what with the weaker pound, TCX and Virgin's own expansion plans, and AA/UA already contracting in the UK regions, the addition of Norwegian into the fray might have all proved a bit too much capacity for this summer. If the 17.8% capacity increase indicated by slot filings comes to fruition, that's still a very healthy growth.
Maybe NO will give MAN another shot in 2018, assuming they don't get Trumped in the meantime.
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AA/UA already contracting in the UK regions
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Wasn't available, or full, when I booked for travel this month. But even with a preference list of (a) direct (b) via Dublin or (c) via a US hub, that still puts the likes of AA, UA as the third option. Hence the downward slide.....
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I think frequency of flights and whether they are seasonal also have to be taken into account.
Whether it's business or leisure, folk can't always fit their trips around schedules that operate 2 or 3 times a week as opposed to say 5 times or daily.
Whether it's business or leisure, folk can't always fit their trips around schedules that operate 2 or 3 times a week as opposed to say 5 times or daily.
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I suppose the issue is that the TCX service is not daily, and I don't think it operates in winter.
Ideally MAN would have a daily or close to daily year round operation from a carrier which either has a hub operation at LAX or has acess to a partner's hub at LAX.
The present situation is okay, but to capture more of the MAN-LAX market on direct services (and any onward connections) there is clearly a lot more to be done.
Ideally MAN would have a daily or close to daily year round operation from a carrier which either has a hub operation at LAX or has acess to a partner's hub at LAX.
The present situation is okay, but to capture more of the MAN-LAX market on direct services (and any onward connections) there is clearly a lot more to be done.
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Not yet from MAN.
They start flying to SFO, three times per week, in a few months time. The route may only be seasonal.
I assume LAX is pretty high on the order of priority for VS at MAN, but when and if that materialises is for debate.
They start flying to SFO, three times per week, in a few months time. The route may only be seasonal.
I assume LAX is pretty high on the order of priority for VS at MAN, but when and if that materialises is for debate.
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I read an interview with Norwegian CEO in this months Airliner World magazine where he states (words along the lines of) that they were in serious talks with MAN about a long haul base but have withdrawn from these talks as there's too much competition at MAN and that they're now looking to set up a base elsewhere in UK instead (in addition to EDI).
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Interesting if Norwegian do see MAN as having too much competition, would be a step away from what they know where they were the 9th carrier on MAN-TFS, 6th on MAN-AGP and 5th on MAN-BCN but didn't seem to stop them. They compete on TATL from the largest competition market in Europe (London) and are apparently looking at DUB where there is much more competition than MAN from the outset.
Something doesn't quite sound right there, but I suspect it could be more that they didn't get the terms they were expecting from MAN? With TCX and VS expanding maybe MAN in a postition to say no to low offers?
Something doesn't quite sound right there, but I suspect it could be more that they didn't get the terms they were expecting from MAN? With TCX and VS expanding maybe MAN in a postition to say no to low offers?
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I read an interview with Norwegian CEO in this months Airliner World magazine where he states (words along the lines of) that they were in serious talks with MAN about a long haul base but have withdrawn from these talks as there's too much competition at MAN and that they're now looking to set up a base elsewhere in UK instead (in addition to EDI).
I've given up trying to understand what Norwegian are planning as it seems to change on a daily basis! Interesting that the article suggests setting up in elsewhere in the UK which would rule out DUB? Again, what Norwegian say and do aren't necessarily the same thing.
I'm not surprised though by the statement that they walked away from MAN due to too much competition - they were all set to set up shop at BHX until Jet2 came along and then walked away from the negotiating table. Perhaps they do understand that there are limits on what routes can be viably served from the UK.
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In terms of the extra stands, Ryanair already up from 8 to 9 all summer as well as more away based (still one left to announce).
Then coupled with the BA Cityflyer base (even if it is Thu-Sun), so that could be the extra terminal access stands spoken for.
Then coupled with the BA Cityflyer base (even if it is Thu-Sun), so that could be the extra terminal access stands spoken for.
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Good interview with KOT (see link below).
The strategic vision of the airport is crystal clear, realistic and one that I find easy to support. MAGs ability to implement that vision as intended is another matter, which remains to be proven.
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/271434/big-interview-manchester-airport-sets-out-credentials-as-aviations-northern-powerhouse
The strategic vision of the airport is crystal clear, realistic and one that I find easy to support. MAGs ability to implement that vision as intended is another matter, which remains to be proven.
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/271434/big-interview-manchester-airport-sets-out-credentials-as-aviations-northern-powerhouse
I've given up trying to understand what Norwegian are planning as it seems to change on a daily basis!
