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Old arguments? Blimey Skip c'mon.
Mr Burnham only surfaced in the consciousness of the Manc Republic two weeks ago although based on your "old" metaphor that is clearly akin to an eternity in Londonland.
You seem happy for the populous on here to keep the thread to "spotting" reference Manchester , but come in here somewhat wounded should we deviate?
No such quarms on the Heathrow thread .....
Happy to talk political strategy when it comes to London !
Sorry , some of us up North are equally vociferous about speaking up for our patch.
Supposing Boris Johnson was appointed non exec director at Heathrow? You would rightly be at the head of the queue voicing an opinion.
No difference.
Manchester is heading toward 25m so yes it matters!
Mr Burnham only surfaced in the consciousness of the Manc Republic two weeks ago although based on your "old" metaphor that is clearly akin to an eternity in Londonland.
You seem happy for the populous on here to keep the thread to "spotting" reference Manchester , but come in here somewhat wounded should we deviate?
No such quarms on the Heathrow thread .....
Happy to talk political strategy when it comes to London !
Sorry , some of us up North are equally vociferous about speaking up for our patch.
Supposing Boris Johnson was appointed non exec director at Heathrow? You would rightly be at the head of the queue voicing an opinion.
No difference.
Manchester is heading toward 25m so yes it matters!
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This thread has really become more about a soapbox for the same people to rehash old arguments yet again, which is sad.
In other news, saw last week Singapore are now using the A350 into AMS, right-sizing what was never really a B77W route. Any idea when MAN is getting one and de-coupling from MUC?
In other news, saw last week Singapore are now using the A350 into AMS, right-sizing what was never really a B77W route. Any idea when MAN is getting one and de-coupling from MUC?
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Getting SQ back to daily nonstop would be be a great development.
Decoupling could easily see frequency drop to 4 weekly again.
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Daily non-stop would obviously be the best scenario, but, even a 4 weekly non-stop still would put SQ on par with CX and HU at this moment in time. I suppose SQwill be looking at the bigger picture and wonder if they are still competative against the growing eastern market with offering a 1-stop flight, when airlines from the region are starting to take away that market share with their non-stop flights.
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i also think some here and especially in a tall building named place need to moderate their growth expectations a little .
Globally and here in the UK there is without doubt quiet but noticeable softening and a dam right recession in manufacturing already !
That stupid nay dangerous and disruptive tory leadership battle masquerading as a referendum is adding a massive weight of uncertainty.
iMO the trend look rather more gloomy beyond summer 2017 at the moment.
25 million could well be a break point with 30 million rather more distant than many are expecting.
Globally and here in the UK there is without doubt quiet but noticeable softening and a dam right recession in manufacturing already !
That stupid nay dangerous and disruptive tory leadership battle masquerading as a referendum is adding a massive weight of uncertainty.
iMO the trend look rather more gloomy beyond summer 2017 at the moment.
25 million could well be a break point with 30 million rather more distant than many are expecting.
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True - the arrangement I've heard (and I think reproduced in this thread) is 4x non stop A359 and 3x via MUC B77W.
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True - the arrangement I've heard (and I think reproduced in this thread) is 4x non stop A359 and 3x via MUC B77W.
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Good point Logohu. What's the freight capacity on the A359 out of interest?
Actually, MAN-SIN averaged 149 pax per flight in 2015 based on the CAA stats, and averaged 155 in the first 3 months of this year, so it's still a popular flight despite the stop at MUC. (I understand MAN-MUC pax are included as Munich in the international analysis which seems logical).
Actually, MAN-SIN averaged 149 pax per flight in 2015 based on the CAA stats, and averaged 155 in the first 3 months of this year, so it's still a popular flight despite the stop at MUC. (I understand MAN-MUC pax are included as Munich in the international analysis which seems logical).
The A350 carries up to 28 LD3 containers, compared to 44 on a 77W (or equivalent in pallets/containers). Of course how many of those containers are available for freight (as opposed to baggage) depends on how the airline configures its aircraft. But SQ tends to run its aircraft in a fairly low density passenger configuration, leaving plenty of space for freight.
The 77W is a superb freighter, and is responsible for seeing off dedicated freighter aircraft on all but the highest demand cargo routes.
The 77W is a superb freighter, and is responsible for seeing off dedicated freighter aircraft on all but the highest demand cargo routes.
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Good point Logohu. What's the freight capacity on the A359 out of interest?
Actually, MAN-SIN averaged 149 pax per flight in 2015 based on the CAA stats, and averaged 155 in the first 3 months of this year, so it's still a popular flight despite the stop at MUC. (I understand MAN-MUC pax are included as Munich in the international analysis which seems logical).
Actually, MAN-SIN averaged 149 pax per flight in 2015 based on the CAA stats, and averaged 155 in the first 3 months of this year, so it's still a popular flight despite the stop at MUC. (I understand MAN-MUC pax are included as Munich in the international analysis which seems logical).
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It was a daily non stop B77E I think but at the extreme edge of range for that model if I am correct? Ideal for both Cathay and Singapore is likely a daily A350. B77W freight is a good point but surely that is also split with MUC?
Actually flying the MAN-MUC leg in a fee weeks so will be interesting to sample the product.
Actually flying the MAN-MUC leg in a fee weeks so will be interesting to sample the product.
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Apparently Cathay are now reluctant to change to the A350 at MAN as the B77W has more than proved its worth, as both decks (cargo and Passengers) are exceeding expectations.
I'm sure Spanners a few months ago stated MAN holds the Cathay record for heaviest cargo payload on a B77W.
The A350 just can't match that.
I'm sure Spanners a few months ago stated MAN holds the Cathay record for heaviest cargo payload on a B77W.
The A350 just can't match that.
The A350 carries up to 28 LD3 containers, compared to 44 on a 77W (or equivalent in pallets/containers). Of course how many of those containers are available for freight (as opposed to baggage) depends on how the airline configures its aircraft. But SQ tends to run its aircraft in a fairly low density passenger configuration, leaving plenty of space for freight.
The 77W is a superb freighter, and is responsible for seeing off dedicated freighter aircraft on all but the highest demand cargo routes.
The 77W is a superb freighter, and is responsible for seeing off dedicated freighter aircraft on all but the highest demand cargo routes.
Remember the A359 is the Airbus equivalent of the B772/L. The A351 will be the 77W rival in both pax and cargo capacity....whenever it arrives....
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Oman Air to start daily Muscat flights to MAN from April 1st 2017!
Oman Air to fly daily to Manchester | Aviation Tribune | Aviation News
Oman Air to fly daily to Manchester | Aviation Tribune | Aviation News
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The news has now been publicly confirmed via the Oman Air Twitter page:
We are happy to announce that effective from 1st April 2017 we will be flying daily between #Muscat and #Manchester