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I'm a great beleiver in abbreviations used in a proper context epeciaily in technicial documentation - i.e. full title on initial use and abb.. in further useage, nothing personal; so can you please make your origional post in english. I'm guilty too. Its often a problem with people trying to disguise their lack of knowledge. [Edit: Especially Salesmen/Women]
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ROI ? TBD
TBD = "to be determined"
Both very commonly used.
Fair point about acronyms though, like a plague.
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A further update to the above, it appears that three more weekly Palma flights have been added by Flybe for S14, both night flights
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Three extra Palma night flights as well making it double daily Tuesday and Sunday and operates 5 out of 7 in all. Start 29 June end early September.
BE1864/5 21.40 03.25 Tu Fr Su IBZ
BE1862/3 21.30 03.00 Tu Fr Su PMI
BE1870/1 21.30 03.40 Tu Fr Su KEF
Cologne and Florence started today, the former naturally on the newly painted dash and the latter on the 175.
Alicante starts tomorrow and Porto Saturday before the next batch in May (NQY, BOD, TLS & PMI)
Monarch
Brand new sharklet A321 delivered to BHX this afternoon with the ex Royal Jordanian A321 moving to East Mids for a lick of paint no doubt.
Loads of GA/Biz/freight on another super day at BHX.
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Three extra Palma night flights as well making it double daily Tuesday and Sunday and operates 5 out of 7 in all. Start 29 June end early September.
BE1864/5 21.40 03.25 Tu Fr Su IBZ
BE1862/3 21.30 03.00 Tu Fr Su PMI
BE1870/1 21.30 03.40 Tu Fr Su KEF
Cologne and Florence started today, the former naturally on the newly painted dash and the latter on the 175.
Alicante starts tomorrow and Porto Saturday before the next batch in May (NQY, BOD, TLS & PMI)
Monarch
Brand new sharklet A321 delivered to BHX this afternoon with the ex Royal Jordanian A321 moving to East Mids for a lick of paint no doubt.
Loads of GA/Biz/freight on another super day at BHX.
Pete
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Biman put the JFK flights back to Mid August. BHX doesn't get a mention in the article.
Biman?s NY flight now to resume in mid-August | Dhaka Tribune
Biman?s NY flight now to resume in mid-August | Dhaka Tribune
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CAA March 2014
BHX prov. stats March 2014
March 654377
MoM +4.6%
Rolling year 9238562
YoY +3.7%
Of the big airports, only ABZ, EDI und LGW had larger MoM growth. MAN, LHR, BRS, STN, EMA, LTN, NCL, LIV (many slightly) negative.
March 654377
MoM +4.6%
Rolling year 9238562
YoY +3.7%
Of the big airports, only ABZ, EDI und LGW had larger MoM growth. MAN, LHR, BRS, STN, EMA, LTN, NCL, LIV (many slightly) negative.
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March Pax
The net increase over 2013 really doesn't tell the full story and as ever with March it is difficult month to judge depending on where Easter falls.
Last year was terrible, as it included some Easter pax and was down on 2012.
The fact is March 2014 was below March 2004 (yes 10 years), as well as below 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010. The record was March 2008 with 729209 but Easter was the earliest for 90 odd years at around 23 March and that does make a difference.
Back to the present and on long-haul there could be some records broken.
Emirates 48204 average pax 389 at 91% load factor (that could be a record pax figure).
Air India is a record but obviously the re-instated service is still less than one year old - 8227 pax at 229 per flight or 89% load factor is the best so far. Partly helped by 5 Saturdays and 5 Mondays in March.
Possibly even more of a surprise (at least to me) is Turkmenistan at 6260, which could be a record for four services a week (it operated briefly at a higher rate) and a staggering 174 pax per flight giving around 92% load factor based on 190 seats.
Islamabad was a disappointment down 23% at 7904 (Manchester down 42% but due to Air Blue) although still managed 73% load factor.
Business routes were mainly up with the exception of a few such as Berlin, Hamburg (smart move Lufthansa) and very noticeable compared to Dusseldorf which was up a remarkable 16% but this could be decimated shortly with the Germanwings changes but if they are not making money on a network-wide basis I suppose little can be done.
Some Spanish routes still well below East Mids but horses for courses I suppose.
Turkish was okay at around 70% and I can sort of understand why it hasn't gone 12 weekly or double daily although saying that Edinburgh is increasing on some very average winter figures although they do have a strong summer market.
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Last year was terrible, as it included some Easter pax and was down on 2012.
The fact is March 2014 was below March 2004 (yes 10 years), as well as below 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010. The record was March 2008 with 729209 but Easter was the earliest for 90 odd years at around 23 March and that does make a difference.
Back to the present and on long-haul there could be some records broken.
Emirates 48204 average pax 389 at 91% load factor (that could be a record pax figure).
Air India is a record but obviously the re-instated service is still less than one year old - 8227 pax at 229 per flight or 89% load factor is the best so far. Partly helped by 5 Saturdays and 5 Mondays in March.
Possibly even more of a surprise (at least to me) is Turkmenistan at 6260, which could be a record for four services a week (it operated briefly at a higher rate) and a staggering 174 pax per flight giving around 92% load factor based on 190 seats.
Islamabad was a disappointment down 23% at 7904 (Manchester down 42% but due to Air Blue) although still managed 73% load factor.
Business routes were mainly up with the exception of a few such as Berlin, Hamburg (smart move Lufthansa) and very noticeable compared to Dusseldorf which was up a remarkable 16% but this could be decimated shortly with the Germanwings changes but if they are not making money on a network-wide basis I suppose little can be done.
Some Spanish routes still well below East Mids but horses for courses I suppose.
Turkish was okay at around 70% and I can sort of understand why it hasn't gone 12 weekly or double daily although saying that Edinburgh is increasing on some very average winter figures although they do have a strong summer market.
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March pax
There always seems to be some some glitches with the BHX provisional figures, this month not showing Hanover nor Enfidha. I always have a look at the sad decline of the ZRH route which month on month shows a decrease and considering it is a star alliance hub and hence in all the route search engines i find it quite odd. Maybe when LX get the c-series things may improve.
Apart from that some excellent figures , and as O.P. has pointed out the biggest surprise was Turkmen , maybe they have cut their fares to counter the AI presence ? There has been a rumour of them using 777's , now i can see why.
Apart from that some excellent figures , and as O.P. has pointed out the biggest surprise was Turkmen , maybe they have cut their fares to counter the AI presence ? There has been a rumour of them using 777's , now i can see why.
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I think Zurich can be explained by the fact that LH now controls LX . Probably putting some from Zurich on their own flights, as LH have seen steadyincreases in passenger numbers.
Its noticeable that MAN LX flts were supposed to be all airbus, however even here theres been quite a few Helvetic F100s on ZRH recently, perhaps for the same reason.
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I think Zurich can be explained by the fact that LH now controls LX . Probably putting some from Zurich on their own flights, as LH have seen steadyincreases in passenger numbers.
Its noticeable that MAN LX flts were supposed to be all airbus, however even here theres been quite a few Helvetic F100s on ZRH recently, perhaps for the same reason.
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MAN-ZRH will be back to 3 a day soon.
But yeah agree - as part of the LH Group, they will shift capacity (by pricing policy) around their hubs as they see fit.
Just watch the BHX-ZRH route once prices start coming down again, numbers will go up.
LF up / yield down - all a balancing act.
But yeah agree - as part of the LH Group, they will shift capacity (by pricing policy) around their hubs as they see fit.
Just watch the BHX-ZRH route once prices start coming down again, numbers will go up.
LF up / yield down - all a balancing act.
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@Oltonpete trying to follow your post (I always value your posts!): You say Easter props up passenger figures. As such the dip last year was particularly bad as it already included some of Easter. OK. This year March did not include Easter. But it was up (from the low base last year). But esepcially the fact that BHX gained whilst many of its larger and/or regional competitors didn't, is still good, no?
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I spend a lot of time positioning for flights around Europe and I would observe that in the UK they've not made the experience of flying either attractive or easy, probably LGW is an exception. A lot of the UK regional airports start the rip off process even before you go inside with parking/drop off fee's, just imagine if supermarkets started doing that?
The UK departure tax also is a big turn off. I think a lot of people have got to the point where apart from a main holiday they just can't be bothered with jump through all the hoops on airlines websites, then parking drop off fee's and then security ............
Wishing BHX well, much potential i think.
The UK departure tax also is a big turn off. I think a lot of people have got to the point where apart from a main holiday they just can't be bothered with jump through all the hoops on airlines websites, then parking drop off fee's and then security ............
Wishing BHX well, much potential i think.
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March 2014
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I suppose any increase is good especially compared to decreases recorded at Heathrow, Manchester, Bristol, Luton, Leeds, East Midlands, Newcastle and Belfast INT and all I was really trying to do was to add a bit of perspective.
Also to show how after ten years BHX has not progressed as much as other airports, some examples: -
Edinburgh 2004 - 649571 compared to 2014 733176
Luton 2004- 555695 compared to 2014 707909
Bristol 2004 - 335269 compared to 2014 426294
Birmingham 2004 - 665380 compared to 2014 654377
I know comparing one month is not particularly ideal but enough to show a bit of a comparison against some other UK airports. Although to counter-balance that there are airports similar to BHX that haven't moved on (passenger number wise) since 2003/4 such as Manchester (1436506 in 2004 to 1434504 in 2014) and Glasgow.
As for the BHX "bad" month, March 2013 I can only assume that the loss of BMI Baby in the previous September was a major factor, as Monarch & Ryanair were not so keen to add extra capacity in the winter months unlike summer. This again has distorted the increase in March 2014.
Overall the airport is moving in the right direction but as LNIDA states
"much potential i think"
Pete
I suppose any increase is good especially compared to decreases recorded at Heathrow, Manchester, Bristol, Luton, Leeds, East Midlands, Newcastle and Belfast INT and all I was really trying to do was to add a bit of perspective.
Also to show how after ten years BHX has not progressed as much as other airports, some examples: -
Edinburgh 2004 - 649571 compared to 2014 733176
Luton 2004- 555695 compared to 2014 707909
Bristol 2004 - 335269 compared to 2014 426294
Birmingham 2004 - 665380 compared to 2014 654377
I know comparing one month is not particularly ideal but enough to show a bit of a comparison against some other UK airports. Although to counter-balance that there are airports similar to BHX that haven't moved on (passenger number wise) since 2003/4 such as Manchester (1436506 in 2004 to 1434504 in 2014) and Glasgow.
As for the BHX "bad" month, March 2013 I can only assume that the loss of BMI Baby in the previous September was a major factor, as Monarch & Ryanair were not so keen to add extra capacity in the winter months unlike summer. This again has distorted the increase in March 2014.
Overall the airport is moving in the right direction but as LNIDA states
"much potential i think"
Pete