CARDIFF - 2

[rydav]

As mentioned here, Cityjet flights now on sale up until 25th October 2014.

- Glasgow (2x daily 123, 3x daily 4+5, 1x 6+7)
- Edinburgh (3x daily 12345, 1x daily 6, 2x daily 7)
- Jersey (5 weekly)
- Paris Orly (Daily)

Excellent times to GLA and EDI for business passengers.

Flights start at £83* return to Edinburgh, £85* return to Jersey, £99* return to Glasgow, £109* to Paris Orly.

[Letsflycwl]

Great fares from CityJet........just looked at random fares for June & Paris from£108 return whilst Jersey from £27 one way......also all ops under WX flight numbers now and not AF. I'm assuming there are going to be two F50's based come March ??

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Letsflycwl

Just hope I can through check baggage onto AF flights ex ORY !!

The Cityjet flights to Orly are codeshared with Air France. If you book a through ticket CWL-ORY-NCE (for example) with AF flight numbers, I don't imagine there will be any problem through-checking bags. If you are on separate tickets and the CWL-ORY ticket is on the WX flight number, it is not likely to be possible.

[Letsflycwl]

Cheers for that........will the ORY flight always be code share with AF after the change over to WX ?

[Capt. Tango]

If any of you chaps/ess had a login to the COHOR system, then you would know if they have applied for Slots at ORY for S14.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Letsflycwl

Cheers for that........will the ORY flight always be code share with AF after the change over to WX ?

I don't know, to be honest, but if I had to guess I'd say no, it'll be time-limited. One of the big unknowns in this whole sale-to-Intro is the duration that Intro has negotiated for CityJet's subsequent commercial deal with Air France, i.e. how long the AF codeshare and commercial relationships will last after the AF ownership umbilical is cut. A year? 2? 3? I don't know.

I'd strongly suspect that the main reason CityJet is flying from Cardiff to ORY rather than to CDG (where, let's face it, the connections are) is that AF needs to babysit some slots in ORY. (An F50 does not really need a 90-minute turnround in ORY ) In the past, AF has bankrolled some funky third-party operations (Orly-Caen in a Beech 1900, anyone?) in order to hold on to its ORY slots at the lowest possible price. I would guess that something similar is going on here, i.e. that as part of the dowry it'll pay to Intro, AF has offered some sort of guaranteed-revenue deal to CityJet/Intro in return for which they'll fly the route in the downtime between GLA rotations.

C.

[Letsflycwl]

Well as long as CityJet keep the prices as they are, I'm sure there will be an increase in the passenger figures..and possibly another new destination once these ones have been tested and tried.

My Paris flight was nearly £80 cheaper than EZY or AF from BRS !!!

[SWBKCB]

Is Orly that slot constrained??

[jarvis123]

Still not able to book the CWL EDI route with Cityjet. Any idea why?

[Letsflycwl]

It was on there this morning, some good fares too.....3 a day and the fares I could see were around £45.00

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

Is Orly that slot constrained??

With the exception of periodic distributions of slots from defunct carriers, yes, I think so. AF continues a Canute-like effort to tie up slots and prevent further LCC encroachment there.

[mathers_wales_uk]

If you still can't see them Jarvis then try and delete your history and cookies on the net. I had same issue when using Firefox but all was working ok on Google chrome.

[Phileas Fogg]

CCleaner - Download is a good free download registry cleaner for removing cookies, temporary internet files etc. etc. etc.

[Capt. Tango]

Hi SWBKCB,
Yes ORY does require an airline to apply for slots, and infact COHOR (French Airport Coordination) is based at ORY.
So if you were to look at their system, the answer would be plain to see if they have applied or are on waitlist for slots S14.

[jarvis123]

Thanks Phileas and mathers.

[mathers_wales_uk]

CityJet will be operating as follows in S14 based on what is available to book which requires 3 aircraft on a Monday and Tuesday mornings.

Cardiff to Edinburgh (Starts 30th March)

WX300 Cardiff 06:15 Edinburgh 07:50 MTWTF__ Fokker 50
WX300 Cardiff 08:00 Edinburgh 09:35 _____S_ Fokker 50
WX302 Cardiff 09:15 Edinburgh 10:50 MT_____ Fokker 50
WX302 Cardiff 13:30 Edinburgh 15:05 __WTF_S Fokker 50
WX304 Cardiff 17:40 Edinburgh 19:15 MTWTF_S Fokker 50

Edinburgh to Cardiff (Starts 30th March)

WX301 Edinburgh 08:20 Cardiff 09:55 MTWTF__ Fokker 50
WX301 Edinburgh 10:05 Cardiff 11:40 _____S_ Fokker 50
WX303 Edinburgh 11:20 Cardiff 12:55 MT_____ Fokker 50
WX303 Edinburgh 15:35 Cardiff 17:10 __WTF_S Fokker 50
WX305 Edinbrugh 19:45 Cardiff 21:20 MTWTF_S Fokker 50

Cardiff to Glasgow

WX132 Cardiff 06:40 Glasgow 08:15 MTWTF__ Fokker 50
WX132 Cardiff 08:05 Glasgow 09:40 _____S_ Fokker 50
WX134 Cardiff 14:10 Glasgow 15:45 ___TF__ Fokker 50
WX136 Cardiff 18:20 Glasgow 19:55 MTWTF_S Fokker 50

Glasgow to Cardiff

WX133 Glasgow 08:45 Cardiff 10:20 MTWTF__ Fokker 50
WX133 Glasgow 10:10 Cardiff 11:45 _____S_ Fokker 50
WX135 Glasgow 16:16 Cardiff 17:50 ___TF__ Fokker 50
WX137 Glasgow 20:25 Cardiff 21:55 MTWTF_S Fokker 50

Cardiff to Jersey (Starts 20th April)

WX310 Cardiff 10:50 Jersey 12:00 __W_F__ Fokker 50
WX310 Cardiff 12:15 Jersey 13:25 _____S_ Fokker 50
WX310 Cardiff 15:00 Jersey 16:10 M_____S Fokker 50

Jersey to Cardiff (Starts 20th April)

WX311 Jersey 12:30 Cardif 13:40 __W_F__ Fokker 50
WX311 Jersey 14:00 Cardiff 15:10 _____S_ Fokker 50
WX311 Jersey 16:40 Cardiff 17:50 M_____S Fokker 50

Cardiff to Paris Orly

WX286 Cardiff 09:10 Paris Orly 11:45 ______S Fokker 50
WX286 Cardiff 10:25 Paris Orly 13:00 MTWTF__ Fokker 50
WX286 Cardiff 12:15 Paris Orly 14:50 _____S_ Fokker 50

Paris Orly to Cardiff

WX287 Paris Orly 12:25 Cardiff 13:00 ______S Fokker 50
WX287 Paris Orly 15:15 Cardiff 15:45 _____S_ Fokker 50
WX287 Paris Orly 16:00 Cardiff 16:35 MTWTF__ Fokker 50

[Cyrano]

27 Jan 2014: CityJet is committed to operating flights from Cardiff.

3 Oct 2013: CityJet is committed to operating flights from Dundee.

Just sayin'.

[Letsflycwl]

Yeah but there is a bit of a difference between operating x2 or whatever daily flights ex DND compared to what they will have to offer ex CWL by the end of March !!

[caaardiff]

Any Airline will say this. They aren't exactly going to say they aren't committed, or "may" do this and that.
But I think there's different opportunities at CWL than DND. The Airline seems to be changing the way it operates and the markets it serves, so I'm sure they'll go all out at CWL. There's limited other markets for them to try out there.

[Capt. Tango]

That's two interesting statements by CityJet, but the one regarding CWL, at the bottom shows how bleak things have got with the Welsh Government having to bail them out. If i were "Joe public" i would be wondering if its a nice airport to fly out of and why no airlines want to go there.