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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 08:12
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A fascinating read, albeit a tad out of date (Helvetic still mentioned, and flybe as the great white hope...)

The key points in there, I'm afraid to say, back up what most of us have been saying for years - no-one really cares about the airport building and facilities, and no-one is that bothered about the road links. It is all down to the perception of the market that the airlines have, and until that changes, Cardiff faces a very tough time.

Regarding the routes - I would always take these with a pinch of salt. Ask pretty much anyone in Cardiff if they think that someone ought to fly from Cardiff to X, they will say yes. Would you use it? Yes, of course. Would you let me take your credit card number to make a booking? Um, no thanks.... cf, Aberdeen, that everyone wanted desperately according to the surveys, but not enough to book tickets on....

PF, couldn't agree more about the CWL/BRS debate. Why does it matter if BRS has 10m, 20m, 30m pax a year, so long as CWL serves the market it has?

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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 10:58
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Ski 2014/15

Looks like Flybe are back with ski flights next winter. Both CMF and GVA available on Sat. Both departures timed at 13:40 from CWL according to inghams. No flights found to LYS nor GNB but not seen the crystal ski brochure yet.
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Old 5th Feb 2014, 13:28
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Anyone got firm info who is operating the TCX ACMI contract this summer?
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Old 5th Feb 2014, 16:27
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Small planet.
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Old 5th Feb 2014, 16:35
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Do you have any evidence of this ?
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Old 5th Feb 2014, 22:12
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Well, SP have taken delivery of another 320 recently, but their problems in Italy doesn't make them look particularly attractive. It is interesting how quiet this has gone both externally and within TCX. I wonder if tcx might have a change of heart and do the job themselves?
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Old 6th Feb 2014, 08:05
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Yes SP-HAE left DGX sometime last week. I dont think TCX have the capacity to operate this in-house, and the seating chart on the website has now been an A320 for some time. I have brought up the issue numerous times with TCX staff and none of them could provide me with any facts at all. I think this could be a severe case of wait and see.
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Old 6th Feb 2014, 17:37
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Does anyone know what airlines & aircraft types are operating to DUB for the Six Nations Wales v Ireland rugby this weekend ??

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Old 6th Feb 2014, 17:50
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Today saw a few extra ATR72 rotations, along with a MON 757. Tomorrow will see more extra rotations with ATR72's and an Aer Lingus A320, along with anything else which is chartered.
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Old 6th Feb 2014, 17:51
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Between tomorrow and Monday, 36 flights (18 each way) 32 ATR 72 and 4 A320.


Air Contractors and Monarch flights tomorrow and Flybe had one today.
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Old 6th Feb 2014, 18:17
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What are Air Contractors using ? ATR 72 aircraft ? What did Flybe use ? Take it they flew the National Team ?
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Old 6th Feb 2014, 18:28
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Air Contractors - B737-700
Aer Lingus - ATR72-500/600
Flybe - E-175


Have no idea if BE took the national team.
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Old 6th Feb 2014, 19:07
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Cardiff - CWL bus link averages less than 4 passengers per bus.
BBC News - Cardiff Airport shuttle bus averages four passengers a journey
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 02:00
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I have brought up the issue numerous times with TCX staff and none of them could provide me with any facts at all. I think this could be a severe case of wait and see.
I'd imagine the TCX staff concerned have better things to do than discuss commercial information with a valley schoolchild!
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 11:42
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It is to be revealed that Prof Stuart Cole's review of Cardiff Airport Express finds it is sustainable, provided airport passenger numbers increase as forecast.
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 11:58
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The airport boss is quoted as saying "a bus service connecting the airport with Cardiff city centre has also exceeded expectations", the BBC say there are an average of 4 passengers per bus. Nice to see what the definition of "exceeding expectations" is.

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Old 7th Feb 2014, 13:22
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That works out as an average passenger number. Bristol's Express bus service which has been operating for 15 years and runs more frequent service has average of approximately 11 or 12.

The Cardiff Airport Express needs an average of 8 passengers per journey for it to be profitable according to Prof Stuart Cole.

What has to be taken into consideration is that the service was announced by the Welsh Government on the same day as the media was covering the visit of the world's largest passenger aircraft at Cardiff Airport (27th Jul 13) and commenced shortly later.

The service has not been operating for a whole year yet so will be interesting to see the figures for Summer 2014.
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 15:44
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A bus that doesn't stop where it's needed

Let's hope Professor Cole has noticed that this thrice hourly bus cruises through populous areas of western Cardiff and the Vale without a single significant stop - other than those for the occasional person staying at the three hotels en route.

So, most of us in these areas still have to use taxi or car to reach CWL.

Three or four new key stops and a bit of intelligent rerouting might double the number of pax....to 8?
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 17:56
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Maybe the tcx (Thomas cook) acmi summer 2014 for cwl will be operated by
avion express.....
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 19:55
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Can I ask why people are referring to Thomas Cook as an ACMI Summer 2014?
Have i missed something and are TCX basing an aircraft at CWL purely for ACMI charters?

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