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GOOD ! Because getting an Electron cardng wont help you one little bit when booking a Ryanair flight 
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ONCE AGAIN you need a pre payed master card ! and if you travel alot it is well worth getting one, mine has save me and mine well over £200.
.ONCE AGAIN you need a pre payed master card ! and if you travel alot it is well worth getting one, mine has save me and mine well over £200.
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Forgive me for mentioning the wrong card daz, does not detract from my point. I admire your devotion to Ryaiar it counters the many negatives from others.
I do travel a lot on average 50-60 flights a year (including some on Ryaiair and maybe more now they are returning to Manchester)
So I repeat I see no point in getting a prepaid Mastercard just for flights with Ryanair, I simply factor in the CC costs, which you get on all airlines into the decision on who to book with.
I do travel a lot on average 50-60 flights a year (including some on Ryaiair and maybe more now they are returning to Manchester)
So I repeat I see no point in getting a prepaid Mastercard just for flights with Ryanair, I simply factor in the CC costs, which you get on all airlines into the decision on who to book with.
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They pulled out and now they are back. They got a better deal so they are back but for how long??
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In regard to the ACE - Brussels-Charleroi flight this morning. A group of 100 passengers were offloaded because of safety reasons. As the Ryanair statement said only a few had to pay for extra baggage and the passengers who had to pay and some others from the group were very disruptive to the crew on board as a result. The aircraft had just started to be pushed back when the decision by police and crew was taken to bring all passengers back to the gate as baggage needed to be taken off. While at gate tempers got the better of a number of passengers in the group and the decision was taken by police and crew to off load all 100 of the group.
OltonPete
In regard to the ACE - Brussels-Charleroi flight this morning. A group of 100 passengers were offloaded because of safety reasons. As the Ryanair statement said only a few had to pay for extra baggage and the passengers who had to pay and some others from the group were very disruptive to the crew on board as a result. The aircraft had just started to be pushed back when the decision by police and crew was taken to bring all passengers back to the gate as baggage needed to be taken off. While at gate tempers got the better of a number of passengers in the group and the decision was taken by police and crew to off load all 100 of the group.
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I read somewhere of talk of Russian or Chinese made aircraft being looked at? a very brave move if true, I suspect a Western order for 300+ plus units would be a game changer for either country and something both Boeing and Airbus will try to stop through pricing.
I doubt that the pax will give a stuff most of their clothes will come from the far East and MOL would have a field day at the cost of lazy over paid Boeing or Airbus workers his view not mine!!
I doubt that the pax will give a stuff most of their clothes will come from the far East and MOL would have a field day at the cost of lazy over paid Boeing or Airbus workers his view not mine!!
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I think you find that Ryanair didn`t get a better deal, it`s just the bog standard rate for
the time of day they are flying which is out of peak. I think it`s more they need Manchester for the volume
Ian B
I think you find that Ryanair didn`t get a better deal, it`s just the bog standard rate for
the time of day they are flying which is out of peak. I think it`s more they need Manchester for the volume
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regarding the Ryanair deal at MAN, there is an article on routesonline that states (from M'OL himself):
-The present MAN deal at its present stage is actually worse than when he left 15 months ago
-The deal may be worse at the moment, but works better with higher volumes, so, the more routes/frequencies added, the better the deal RYR has
-The next stage is for based aircraft at MAN
-The next non based routes he is looking at is more western Med, particulary spain, so may see BCN added, along with more MAD.
-He isnt there to trash the market, but add volume where routes are already served.
Cant remember the address for the site, but if you search for routes online ryanair Im sure it will come up
-The present MAN deal at its present stage is actually worse than when he left 15 months ago
-The deal may be worse at the moment, but works better with higher volumes, so, the more routes/frequencies added, the better the deal RYR has
-The next stage is for based aircraft at MAN
-The next non based routes he is looking at is more western Med, particulary spain, so may see BCN added, along with more MAD.
-He isnt there to trash the market, but add volume where routes are already served.
Cant remember the address for the site, but if you search for routes online ryanair Im sure it will come up
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Ryanair may spend billions on cheap Chinese jets
Link to press article :
Ryanair may spend billions on cheap Chinese jets - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
Ryanair may spend billions on cheap Chinese jets - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
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I read somewhere of talk of Russian or Chinese made aircraft being looked at? a very brave move if true, I suspect a Western order for 300+ plus units would be a game changer for either country and something both Boeing and Airbus will try to stop through pricing.
A couple of days later the new Tupolew 204 (in a modernised version with a couple of tons less) had its first flight - however with no customer for the "new" type the future for Tupolew does not look good.
The introduction of a Russian type as a second fleet into RYR would mean a huge effort - however it could open a new market:
After 9/11 RYR made a bargain in buying discounted 737s when airlines stopped buying - and offered Boeing a lifeline.
Now a deal with Tupolew could safe Tu and give FR the option to enter the Russian market - huge potential for growth included!
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recently Michael Cawley mentioned the interest for a 200 seat aircraft (to fully utilise 4 cabin crew).
A couple of days later the new Tupolew 204 (in a modernised version with a couple of tons less) had its first flight - however with no customer for the "new" type the future for Tupolew does not look good.
The introduction of a Russian type as a second fleet into RYR would mean a huge effort - however it could open a new market:
After 9/11 RYR made a bargain in buying discounted 737s when airlines stopped buying - and offered Boeing a lifeline.
Now a deal with Tupolew could safe Tu and give FR the option to enter the Russian market - huge potential for growth included!
A couple of days later the new Tupolew 204 (in a modernised version with a couple of tons less) had its first flight - however with no customer for the "new" type the future for Tupolew does not look good.
The introduction of a Russian type as a second fleet into RYR would mean a huge effort - however it could open a new market:
After 9/11 RYR made a bargain in buying discounted 737s when airlines stopped buying - and offered Boeing a lifeline.
Now a deal with Tupolew could safe Tu and give FR the option to enter the Russian market - huge potential for growth included!
The Russian aircraft theoretically of interest is the now-under-development Irkut MS21.
I say "theoretically" because those of a cynical persuasion might suspect that a main motivation for Ryanair to talk to Irkut (or Comac in China) is to provide bargaining leverage to encourage Boeing to reduce their prices for a new order. Since Airbus unsportingly
declined to compete for a new Ryanair order (on the basis of how they were treated in the past), Boeing has no obvious competitor for a further Ryanair aircraft order and thus doesn't have any credible motivation to discount their prices.
If FR were to order a large (100+) number of Russian aircraft, would it be credible for Ryanair to receive political favours ? As an example, if FR orders a very large number of aircraft, the Russian Govt grants FR the right to set up a Russian subsidiary (Ryanair owning at leas 51% of the shares) with Russian crew, and with a Russian AOC, similiar to Easyjet in Switzerland, allowing FR domestic Russian traffic rights ?
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If FR were to order a large (100+) number of Russian aircraft, would it be credible for Ryanair to receive political favours ? As an example, if FR orders a very large number of aircraft, the Russian Govt grants FR the right to set up a Russian subsidiary (Ryanair owning at leas 51% of the shares) with Russian crew, and with a Russian AOC, similiar to Easyjet in Switzerland, allowing FR domestic Russian traffic rights ?
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Ryanair's present fleet is too big for the airline to go anywhere else than Boeing for new planes. I doubt Boeing will be persuaded by the airline's bluster about Russian/Chinese planes to offer Ryanair a knock-down price for new Boeing 737-800s.
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A stroke like that would give FR a direction for expansion
However, any negotiations in Russia could be a big hurdle for them. Not necessarily concerning the aircraft, but all these individual agreements with airports, as well as taxes & fees issues.
I guess the negotiation skills should be very different there, including the ability to digest (litres of) vodka, the expertise of local customs, corruption/bribery etc.
As far as I know, at least Wizz Air are having such kind of problems in neighbouring Ukraine.
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Ryanair's present fleet is too big for the airline to go anywhere else than Boeing for new planes.
Look at Air Berlin for example, they can approach both Airbus and Boeing and pit them against each other to get the best deal because they operate both type of aircraft!
Say Ryanair ordered 200 aircraft and saved $2m on each - I doubt training crew etc. would cost $400m...
There are dozens of factors involved such as this along with operations, crew contracts etc.
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The resale value of the 5-7 year old B737-800 was a large factor in the Boeing order. Not so sure second hand nearly new untried Russian aircraft have quite the same impact on the balance sheet.
Ryanair at no time have suspended operations from Manchester Airport. They merely pulled back frequency on the core MAN-DUB route and shouted a lot that they wouldn't expand. Until they do. Which is now. (that's enough of that - Ed)
They pulled out and now they are back. They got a better deal so they are back but for how long??
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Here's a good one:
The Andalusian Regional Government has announced that they will fine any airline charging passengers for printing their boarding passes at the airport with up to 30,000 Euros, having ascertained that some low cost airlines charge 40 Euros for this service.
For those who wish to see the original and full report in Spanish: http://www.hosteltur.com/0429_andalucia-multara-30000-aerolinea-cobre-imprimir-tarjeta-embarque.html
It may be worth mentioning that within the jurisdiction of the Andalusian Regional Government there are 5 airports used by RyanAir, namely, ALMERIA, GRANADA, JEREZ, MALAGA and last but by no means the least, SEVILLE.
The Andalusian Regional Government has announced that they will fine any airline charging passengers for printing their boarding passes at the airport with up to 30,000 Euros, having ascertained that some low cost airlines charge 40 Euros for this service.
For those who wish to see the original and full report in Spanish: http://www.hosteltur.com/0429_andalucia-multara-30000-aerolinea-cobre-imprimir-tarjeta-embarque.html
It may be worth mentioning that within the jurisdiction of the Andalusian Regional Government there are 5 airports used by RyanAir, namely, ALMERIA, GRANADA, JEREZ, MALAGA and last but by no means the least, SEVILLE.
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About Ryanair and Russia - I highly doubt. Aeroflot has a very strong impact on everything airline there. Local low-costers can operate only within Russia, they're heavily pressed and pushed by all possible means, including airport authorities.
In Russian news I often see government, including the president, talking about the airfares, about Aeroflot being a legal monopoly, etc. The truth is that everyone knows, that should they liberalize the market, everyone would beat Aeroflot with lower prices.
It's just that 199 Eur price for Moscow - Europe flights is considered a bargain there, let alone that this is a before tax fare!
In Russian news I often see government, including the president, talking about the airfares, about Aeroflot being a legal monopoly, etc. The truth is that everyone knows, that should they liberalize the market, everyone would beat Aeroflot with lower prices.
It's just that 199 Eur price for Moscow - Europe flights is considered a bargain there, let alone that this is a before tax fare!
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See FR settled out of court with SNN/the DAA for Eu3.5m and also seems to have settled with the 3 airports on late payments of fees
Ryanair paid airport body €3.5m to settle action - The Irish Times - Mon, Feb 07, 2011
Ryanair paid airport body €3.5m to settle action - The Irish Times - Mon, Feb 07, 2011