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Good news about KUN. Can somebody explain why booking Ryanair flight DUB-RIX-DUB Dublin airport charges are 38EUR and booking RIX-DUB-RIX 55LVL(78EUR)? Different charges exist for more than a year.
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In their 3Q announcement Ryanair included a slide showing 337 lost departures from the UK each week in Feb 2011 vs 2010 - I was just trying to get a headline of where capacity has been lost and / or gained - which bases / airports are seeing more flights (?) and which are seeing fewer ?
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FR Capacity changes in the UK and Ireland - January 2011
Hi bread&water,
I don't have any data for February yet, but this was the picture comparing the number of FR flights per base in Jan 2011 to the number in Jan 2010:
LBA +124% (base started in March 2010)
LGW +75%
EDI +12%
DUB -3%
LTN -4%
STN -14%
LPL -21%
BHX -21%
BRS -36%
EMA -38%
PIK -43%
SNN -70%
BOH -100% (base suspended this winter)
BHD -100% (base closed)
The picture will change in February and March with the re-starting of a large number of seasonal routes, plus a handful of new routes.
I don't have any data for February yet, but this was the picture comparing the number of FR flights per base in Jan 2011 to the number in Jan 2010:
LBA +124% (base started in March 2010)
LGW +75%
EDI +12%
DUB -3%
LTN -4%
STN -14%
LPL -21%
BHX -21%
BRS -36%
EMA -38%
PIK -43%
SNN -70%
BOH -100% (base suspended this winter)
BHD -100% (base closed)
The picture will change in February and March with the re-starting of a large number of seasonal routes, plus a handful of new routes.
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From Stockholm Skavsta Airport website:
I'm a bit disappointed by not seeing even a single route to Greece from Finland. It's encouraging to spot the flights there even from Kaunas, but... while I don't have any doubts that Lithuanians will be able to fill the planes, I think Finns would be able to pay for FR flight tickets to Kos or Rhodes substantially more (just comparing the purchasing power, GDP per capita and alike).
With no offence towards Lithuanians, of course.
Published: 03 February 2011
Today Ryanair announced two new routes from Stockholm Skavsta, Rijeka in Croatia and Rhodes in Greece.
The new destinations start in mid-April and are both operated twice per week, Rijeka on Mondays and Fridays, Rhodes on Tuesdays and Saturdays.
Rijeka is situated in the north-west of Croatia and is the third largest city in the country. It is a main seaport of Croatia and the coastline hosts many tourist- and spa resorts, e.g. Opatija.
The Rhodes island... (okay, that we surely know).
Today Ryanair announced two new routes from Stockholm Skavsta, Rijeka in Croatia and Rhodes in Greece.
The new destinations start in mid-April and are both operated twice per week, Rijeka on Mondays and Fridays, Rhodes on Tuesdays and Saturdays.
Rijeka is situated in the north-west of Croatia and is the third largest city in the country. It is a main seaport of Croatia and the coastline hosts many tourist- and spa resorts, e.g. Opatija.
The Rhodes island... (okay, that we surely know).
With no offence towards Lithuanians, of course.
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Cag - Dub
Ciao Tutti,
Does anybody have any information about a flight from Cagliari to Dublin. I heard RYR have already received a slot but it is not possible to book a flight
Thanks for any news.
Does anybody have any information about a flight from Cagliari to Dublin. I heard RYR have already received a slot but it is not possible to book a flight
Thanks for any news.
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Not sure but I can't see it happoning as they already fly AHO - DUB twice weekly year roiund so would they fly both routes or drop AHO and start CAG. There wouldn't be a market to keep both routes going.
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RIX charges, KUN
About RIX having much lower charges than DUB, ask any Lithuanian about how RIX and AirBaltic killed-off their national carrier. FR pays very little at RIX too.
Let's see how KUN-Greece goes, KUN had some reductions (notably BER - which was picked up at VNO by EstonianAir), and just like e.g. HHN, they heavily subsidies all new FR routes. No surprise though MOL finally shows his face in Vilnius, as this is were the holiday flights leave currently (charters like Small Planet), also to tempt the capital city folks to that little airport near the Second City. And his big rival Wizz will soon have the stronghold at VNO, not good news for MOL, really.
Finland, sure, they have much more money than the folks in LT, but you surely also have a saturated market of flights to the sun with charter airlines. Otherwise TUI would send some more planes. And Finns are probably more demanding w.r.t. decent service from an airline, and would they go to TMP in masses instead of going to HEL ("No pun intended !"
.) Interesting economic indicator, that.
Let's see how KUN-Greece goes, KUN had some reductions (notably BER - which was picked up at VNO by EstonianAir), and just like e.g. HHN, they heavily subsidies all new FR routes. No surprise though MOL finally shows his face in Vilnius, as this is were the holiday flights leave currently (charters like Small Planet), also to tempt the capital city folks to that little airport near the Second City. And his big rival Wizz will soon have the stronghold at VNO, not good news for MOL, really.
Finland, sure, they have much more money than the folks in LT, but you surely also have a saturated market of flights to the sun with charter airlines. Otherwise TUI would send some more planes. And Finns are probably more demanding w.r.t. decent service from an airline, and would they go to TMP in masses instead of going to HEL ("No pun intended !"
.) Interesting economic indicator, that.
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Ryanair have had there operational hours restricted in Lanzarote when the base opens. The airport is open between 07:00 - 00:00 daily and Ryanair wanted to operate between 06:00 - 02:00 daily. Now all Ryanair flights will depart/arrive between the airport operational hours except one flight which arrives from Venice at 02:00 on Thursdays. Ryanair have asked if this flight can land as they have changed all other flights which had been due to arrive around 01:30 every day.
Ryanair tax for Dublin flights:
€38.48 tax is chraged until 28 Feb.
€31.48 tax will be charged from 1 March as the €7 reduction in the Irish Travel Tax comes into affect.
€33.89 tax will be charged from 1 April as Dublin Airport charges rise.
Can somebody explain why booking Ryanair flight DUB-RIX-DUB Dublin airport charges are 38EUR and booking RIX-DUB-RIX 55LVL(78EUR)?
€38.48 tax is chraged until 28 Feb.
€31.48 tax will be charged from 1 March as the €7 reduction in the Irish Travel Tax comes into affect.
€33.89 tax will be charged from 1 April as Dublin Airport charges rise.
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I understand airport charges, taxes, etc. But in this case Ryanair is simply cheating. Check for example return flight 7Feb-8Feb RIX-DUB-RIX. Price for DUB-RIX will be 101LVL (144EUR) . Flight 8Feb-9Feb DUB-RIX-DUB . Price for the same flight DUB-RIX 104EUR. Ooops, small mistake, division and multiplication mixed... 40 euros from one pax... Half a million every year..
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Source of Ryanair figures
I am very interested to find out what Ryanair uses as their source for the impact they have on local employment and tourism etc.
I guess that a listed company that is screwing every local government needs to support these figures with a source. Is that the case or is it just an imagination of a PR department?
Ryanair’s Greek traffic will grow to over 700,000 passengers in 2011 sustaining up to 700 jobs and delivering over €350m in tourism revenues for the benefit of the local economy.
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This was discussed a couple of years ago here. Here's what I wrote at the time.
Ryanair uses a very simple formula. 1000 passengers per year = 1 job. In the example you give they also imply that each passenger is worth €500 in tourism spend.
It's not difficult
to pick holes in this methodology, but that's how they do it. In the same way, whenever they open a new base they describe it as an "investment" based on the list price of the number of aircraft they plan to base there, even though they haven't paid anything near the list price of the aircraft. But ultimately, it's like the guy in the film Casablanca saying "I'm shocked to find gambling going on in this casino." Ryanair twists statistics to suit its own ends. That's just what it does. Expecting otherwise is naive.
Ryanair uses a very simple formula. 1000 passengers per year = 1 job. In the example you give they also imply that each passenger is worth €500 in tourism spend.
It's not difficult
to pick holes in this methodology, but that's how they do it. In the same way, whenever they open a new base they describe it as an "investment" based on the list price of the number of aircraft they plan to base there, even though they haven't paid anything near the list price of the aircraft. But ultimately, it's like the guy in the film Casablanca saying "I'm shocked to find gambling going on in this casino." Ryanair twists statistics to suit its own ends. That's just what it does. Expecting otherwise is naive.
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Excellent Cyrano, just what I needed 
Thanks for the link FR but I think my question would have to be rephrased when I call them LOL
Thanks for the link FR but I think my question would have to be rephrased when I call them LOL
I guess that a listed company that is screwing every local government needs to support these figures with a source.
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FR vis Easyjet
The latest traffic data has been released by the airlines for January. The difference between the growth is growing. Ryanair added 5% while Easyjet added 19%.
We seem to be having a big changeover with most of the growth going to easyjet.
We seem to be having a big changeover with most of the growth going to easyjet.