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Worth mentioning that Gulf carriers and expansion are following the "British House Prices" model.....all bubbles burst eventually and the market will right size if and when Qatar and Etihad ever have to make a commercial profit.
The reason I mention this is that both having gone double daily to MAN, Qatar has blinked first and is dropping capacity as EK powers onwards. I am not convinced EY will hang about in Dublin too long once EK get properly going.
The reason I mention this is that both having gone double daily to MAN, Qatar has blinked first and is dropping capacity as EK powers onwards. I am not convinced EY will hang about in Dublin too long once EK get properly going.
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Isnt the reason QR dropping capacity not due to major aircraft shortage rather than anything else, with capacity to be reinstated when aircraft available ? Surely that almost is conversely a positive than the "bubble about to burst". If that is the case would support EDI rumours of EY rather than QR. Im not sure there is a precedent for EK "chasing off" EY from routes. With a local double daily EK at GLA, wouldnt bode well for an EDI EY service if that was the case
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Skipness, I don't disagree but Middle East bubbles are a lot tougher to burst than the 'house of card' house price one was here in the UK, they all have enough in reserve to help each other out in a crisis and that includes airlines. Look at the way the Emirate of Abu Dhabi (home to EY) bailed out its neighbour the Emirate of Dubai (home of EK) when Dubai property values crashed and its economy wobbled. Although growth cannot carry on forever, what they have are reserves of cash to call on for when that happens.
As for EK and EY 'forcing' one another off routes, if you look at the way EK, QR and EY have developed their networks it has been in a fairly non combatitive way but this is changing as they are running out of suitable airports, in Europe at least, where they can't avoid going head to head. However, I think that the QR reductions from MAN are to do with a/c shortages, although I am sceptical in the long run that 7 flights a day to the Gulf is financially viable, then again thats what those cash reserves are for
As for EDI well I think the EK double daily is long overdue at GLA however the timing could be something to do with getting in there before an announcement was made by QR or EY at EDI??
As for EK and EY 'forcing' one another off routes, if you look at the way EK, QR and EY have developed their networks it has been in a fairly non combatitive way but this is changing as they are running out of suitable airports, in Europe at least, where they can't avoid going head to head. However, I think that the QR reductions from MAN are to do with a/c shortages, although I am sceptical in the long run that 7 flights a day to the Gulf is financially viable, then again thats what those cash reserves are for
As for EDI well I think the EK double daily is long overdue at GLA however the timing could be something to do with getting in there before an announcement was made by QR or EY at EDI??
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Very good point and a difference set of rules as well as cultures. I think EDI is too big an international destination to be missed for much longer....
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As I posted on this thread on 10th November, EK going double daily at GLA is easily the best result for Scotland as any of the other rumoured operations would have split the Gulf and beyond market over different airlines, different airports, or both. The EK double daily at GLA should be a sustainable success which in turn may attract other long haul operators to Scotland.
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Fair post Wombat. I think a sustainable long haul programme is what we all want, regardless of which airport it happens to be located at.
Here's wishing EK every success with the expanded operation at GLA.
Perhaps at some point in the future other ME carriers will look to the success of EK at GLA and enter the Scotland-ME market, either at EDI or GLA.
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Here's wishing EK every success with the expanded operation at GLA.
Perhaps at some point in the future other ME carriers will look to the success of EK at GLA and enter the Scotland-ME market, either at EDI or GLA.
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Monarch @ Edinburgh 2012
Does anybody know what days of the week and what destinations monarch airlines will be operating to out of Edinburgh this summer.
I know they are to operate out of Edinburgh on the 757 aircraft.
Just wondered where and what days of the week
Thanks
I know they are to operate out of Edinburgh on the 757 aircraft.
Just wondered where and what days of the week
Thanks
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quote: "Perhaps at some point in the future other ME carriers will look to the success of EK at GLA and enter the Scotland-ME market, either at EDI or GLA."
or ABZ...
or ABZ...
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If Emirates operated the A321 then I'd say ABZ would be a great candidate. Unfortunately it looks like the A350 will be the smallest type they operate. Will it be possible to opearate an A350 off the extended runway Richard?
There is also QR with their A321's. They've had the opportunity to operate to ABZ but have thus far declined for some reason.
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There is also QR with their A321's. They've had the opportunity to operate to ABZ but have thus far declined for some reason.
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The A330s of EK, EY and QR would have no problem getting off the runways at EDI or ABZ. However, i would think QR would be the best bet, especially at ABZ, with their A319LR aircraft. They cover most of the Eastbound oil destinations from ABZ through connections at their DOH hub.
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There is also QR with their A321's. They've had the opportunity to operate to ABZ but have thus far declined for some reason.
Anyway, back to Edi.....
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Not too sure that QR would deploy an A319LR on a Scottish route.
The319s are pretty busy as it is especially having only 2.
Current routes range from Central Europe down to Maldives and Seychelles as well as running round the Middle East
The319s are pretty busy as it is especially having only 2.
Current routes range from Central Europe down to Maldives and Seychelles as well as running round the Middle East
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Maybe Gulf Air will deploy their new A321LR on the route. First of the new (6) A321's are to arrive from FEB. Have not heard the rumors here yet but you never know. They will have the additional fuel tanks but Airbus gives a range of 3200nm and BAH-EDI is around 3400nm. Not sure which version they quote.
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Vueling to start EDI-Barcelona from 23 June. (3 weekly T-T-Sa)
BCN-EDI-20.50-22.30-Tue
BCN-EDI-12.05-13.45-Thu
BCN-EDI-06.00-07.40-Sat
EDI-BCN-23.05-02.45-Tue
EDI-BCN-14.25-18.05-Thu
EDI-BCN-08.20-12.00-Sat
BCN-EDI-20.50-22.30-Tue
BCN-EDI-12.05-13.45-Thu
BCN-EDI-06.00-07.40-Sat
EDI-BCN-23.05-02.45-Tue
EDI-BCN-14.25-18.05-Thu
EDI-BCN-08.20-12.00-Sat
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Looks similar to previous. Thought they might have extended the season as end of June to Sept seems quite short. Is Spanair on the route gone now ?
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